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286  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Little Pissed of the Coverage on Barrett Jackson on: January 18, 2014, 11:20:23 PM
Was it the first Z/28?( The pearl white one that Jay leno test drove?)

what is the best way to see the results or what a car bid up to?

Go to B-J's internet site - you can search the auctions by day or type, click on the lot number and pull up the results and the description. It is easy and cool to be able to see them all -

Try this :
287  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Upcoming shows and swap meets in Nashville? on: January 18, 2014, 11:13:49 PM
Stones River is the better of the two.  It is just a swap meet.  I will be set up at this one.  If you decide to go to this one feel free to stop by and look or buy some of my junk; and that goes for everyone.  Ill be at the corner were the large canvas tunnel is located.  See map.  There will be a couple others at this one as well.  Last year was a little weaker than ones in the past but all 4 buildings will have parts and then there will be outside spots as well.  This is a one day only.  Sunday.

Best get on your horse early, Gary - gates open at 6:30 Sunday the 2nd., ends at 3:00 (everybody scrams to watch the SB).

No truth to an entry surcharge for attendees from south of the state line -

Regards (see you there),
288  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Factory records on: January 18, 2014, 10:48:02 PM
don't get too excited as the mrs worked at the dealership and most all dealer dumped all paperwork after 10 years because it cost too much to keep it in storage.

True. I got my docs from the State (dealer invoice, MSO, title copies) before the Fed kicked in the Privacy Act on both Z's. I went to the local dealer in the late 70's to see if they had any copies of anything; that was the answer I got (they trashed the records). That drove me to the State DOT, which had everything (only now they do the same response - no labor to research the microfiche records, and then they redact the owner info even on late model stuff). Documenting early stuff is now almost impossible, so I really welcome the chance to find anything left I haven't already ratholed. NCRS, hurry up -

Regards -
289  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Little Pissed of the Coverage on Barrett Jackson on: January 18, 2014, 10:38:45 PM
I agree...They have cut to commercial on the majority of Camaros starting with Friday's coverage

If you've noticed, the preferred coverage has been Ford for the last couple of years, as they are sponsored by Ford, or have been. I think the Fox network is to blame for some of it, and I hated the fact you can't see the auction total running in the top left corner of the screen (whereas it's clear as day on NG).

Fox apparently has missed the fact all week that a lot of people watch B-J, and hopefully those watching feel the same way we do about coverage, or lack of it. They can stick it. I waited for a couple of hours to get to Old Reliable, only to see it get skipped. Makes me wanna watch C-Span.

Regards -
290  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: factory 302 emblem on 1969 Z-28 on: January 16, 2014, 11:52:47 PM
I imagine a lot of people on new installations use barrel nuts instead of how they were meant to be installed - speed nuts with integral sealant. What a pain it was to locate the holes properly (I did mine in 1974; no aftermarket templates, then). Had to get really inventive to reach through the hood holes to reach the studs -

BTW, the hood was $83.00, the emblems were $3.00 and change apiece. Drove the car hoodless to the dealer, pulled the hood out of the box, bolted it to the hinges and attached the latch, closed it and drove home. Amazing what you'll do to look good in your Z (the car needed less help with that than me-). Guys in the parts department good a good laugh out of that one, and so did I.

291  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...? on: January 16, 2014, 11:33:46 PM
I have the original POP on my car that shows the original owner and selling dealership.  Will this information from NCRS provide anything that I don't already have?  The build sheet is what I'm after to see what options my car was born with.

I don't think so - you're already way ahead of the curve (and a lot of us) with the P-O-P. Better documentation doesn't happen - You might consider putting that $50.00 fee on parts or supplies -

292  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...? on: January 16, 2014, 11:23:46 PM
Tantalizing, to be sure. If the NCRS can pry this out of GM Heritage, it makes you wonder what GM is still has up the corporate sleeve and keeping from us (take the Pontiac records disclosure as an example)? Sure, they are a private company; sure, they are probably worried about legal ramifications, but why not help us out big time and kick the fraud out of the hobby ?

Wishful thinking, only. I definitely welcome the chance to find out some additional info on a couple of my "investments".

Regards -
293  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 1969 Z/28 Leaf Springs on: January 16, 2014, 12:47:20 AM
I'd have 'em shotpeened. It will restore strength to the steel, plus it will take stress and stress risers out of the leafs (helps keep them from cracking). Most spring shops usually do this as part of the re-arching process, it will produce a "mill" finish unlike sandblasting or bead blasting. If you do this, the spring will have to be disassembled, so you can take the time to replace the pads and keepers. If you're just refinishing, sandblasting with aluminum oxide works pretty good, removes crud but is not nearly as fast cutting (and deep cutting) as silicon nitride, black beauty, slag or silica sand. Doesn't rough the surface excessively.

You can always bead or plastic media, and paint. We had a pretty lengthy discussion on spring rebuilding a while back - I'll dig it up when I get the time (unless someone beats me to it).

294  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Time Machine on: January 16, 2014, 12:27:51 AM
Hard to tell but the blue car in the pic but does it have stripes?
I also see a 67 or 8 on the lot pic.  Must have been the trade-ins on the front row cause its sitting next to a Galaxie.

It's Lemans with white panels. Can't tell if it's a spoiler equipped or not: definitely flat hood. The orange and white has a rear spoiler, I think the green one to left has a spoiler, can't tell if the blue 'vert in the foreground has one or not. 4 Camaros in the pic, the white one to the left may make it 5 -

Used lot was in the front left corner (I remember the OK signs to this day), trucks are in the near corner. Reed owned the whole block at one time between Church and Broad - really a shame that Chevy gave 'em the ax after all those years.

295  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Time Machine on: January 14, 2014, 11:05:06 PM
Speaking of time machines - if your imagination still works, you always have one at your disposal.

A while back, we lost a very long term Chevrolet dealer in Nashville, the very one my car came from in February 1969 (28th).
My parents bought their first new car from there, a '57 Bel Air 4 dr. hardtop, which I grew up in. Other cars we bought from there - '65 Impala SS, '65 Corvair Corsa (i learned to drive in that one), '68 Impala Custom Coupe, '72 Impala, and finally my wife's '85 Z28.

Point being, a good friend of ours (who worked for the dealership) found some keepers before they closed - I tried to take as good a pic of them as I could - hopefully you can make out the 3 or 4 Camaros and the Chevelle sitting on the showroom floor. The Lemans Blue '69 Z in the back could be mine - and I wish I could go back to prove it.

Thanks, Sport !

296  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: If Anyone is Interested in a 67 Pace Car on: January 10, 2014, 10:25:23 PM
Another 2 cents -

I hit the big 6-0 this past year - and still proud of the fact I've never grown out of my love for F1's, and Chevrolets in general. I like what Ford did to the Mustangs until this model year; I've finally grown to like the new Camaros (I would really like to own a  new Z), and I think Chrysler did a good job with the Challenger. All that said, drive a new one and an F1 side by side down the street, and see which one gets the attention. Put 'em in a car show the same way, and see which gets looked at first. I have thought from time to time that if you put an equivalent F1 and new one for sale at the same price in a lot, I would probably buy the F1 (with the new Z's coming out, I don't know if I can hold that line much longer).

I believe I saw the '67 that started this discussion at the local Franklin show when it was still held at Pinkerton Park, years ago - probably still have pics of it. It is a sterling car, if it's the same one I've drooled over before. $145K ? Rare, documented (?), and well done, might be to the person that really wants a 1st quality Pacer. 


297  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 rosewood Steering Wheel on: January 02, 2014, 09:52:32 PM
Sorry - I misunderstood the placement. It wouldn't be a '68 or '9 - molded construction with no rivets. Aftermarkets like Grant wheels had them, as you noted. I had one of those in my 1957 Bel Air in the '70's.

298  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 454 engine on: January 02, 2014, 09:46:28 PM
My recently departed '70 LS5 SS came from GM Atlanta with exactly that combination - 365(+) stock horsepower, with a 400 behind it. If your intent is to drive the car, don't put a shift kit in the trans - it will absolutely break your neck on 1-2 shifts at any rpm range. The 454's have an unbelievable amount of torque. Mine ran 10.5:1 compression, L78 square port heads, Comp Cams stick, header and a Holley 850 DP, Edelbrock single plane, Pertronix, and would do a 360 and melt the tires any time you wanted to. Never a bit of problem from the trans, at all. Bulletproof.

It got traded out for a '68 Z - go figure.

299  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 rosewood Steering Wheel on: January 02, 2014, 09:31:54 PM
Bets shots I have of my late departed rosewood. No rivets I can discern - looks to be spot welded.

This was an exceptional wheel I purchased in the mid 80's, long before the current reproductions - a known original wheel.

300  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: NOS sheetmetal on: January 02, 2014, 09:17:34 PM
I purchased the first set from a local GM dealer in the mid '80's, original boxes were marked as you see them in the following shots. I assume they are a month apart due to the dates (78D and E7). I have had these for a long time, paid $329.00 apiece for them if I remember correctly; the later dated quarters have had a mix of "0" prefix and non-"0" prefix tags. Most of the sheetmetal I bought as spares before they discontinued from GM, just because of that reason - plus, you could still buy fenders for $200 and change, quarters for $300 and change, cowl hoods for $400, dash pads for $80, etc., etc.

Started NOS parts purchasing from GM around '80 - veteran pack rat. Worst mistake I ever made was buying for one car, up until the point they multiplied on me. By then, it was too late for a lot of NOS stuff from GM.


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