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271  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: 69Z hard start, backfires on acceleration, stalls when breaking, related issues? on: December 31, 2013, 01:05:53 AM
A couple of things that have not been mentioned in previous replies -

The accelerator pumps on the stock 4053's typically don't give enough of a shot to prevent stumble on acceleration - plus the combination I ran needed more carb, so I changed mine out to an 850 DP - worked for me - I had this problem back in '75. Cold plugs will give you a lot of deceptive problems (found this out the hard way, too - started my rebuilt 302 in '75 with Autolite A22 racing plugs, was ready to toss in the towel until I changed back to the hotter AC std. plugs and cured it). I was running 12.5:1 Manleys in it, with an Erson HiFlow 2H hydraulic - it would literally fly when it finally got the combo ironed out.

A couple of good backfires will trash your power valve(s). Be sure and replace it with the proper configuration valve, one that matches your original carb's numbers.

Lastly, the Pertronix is a good system, or you can use good HD GM or Accel points if you retain a points distributor. Strong coil helps, too - use a ballast resisitor if you use a high voltage coil so you won't burn your points up prematurely if you do use points. Common sense stuff -

Regards,
Steve
272  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: NOS sheetmetal on: December 31, 2013, 12:14:51 AM
Another '81 sticker, note the dates and number sequence -
273  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: NOS sheetmetal on: December 31, 2013, 12:07:10 AM
I was just curious if you could be able to tell the date of stamping from the actual GM sticker.  On the GM sticker above (477) is that 1981 in the top right corner the year Huh

Yep -

Note the correlation between the 6F1 and the 0163 right over the part number (which shows the "0" prefix difference between that and the '78 production date code sticker). I had sold the other '78 panel separately (damaged), and paired these several years ago, subsequently sold over eBay. Wish I still had them - they were flawless.

Regards,
Steve
274  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: NOS sheetmetal on: December 29, 2013, 09:30:21 PM
A lot of my NOS sheet metal has a number stamped on the tag, as do a lot of the boxes (quarters, fenders and misc. sheet metal). The earliest dates I noticed were quarter panels - I have a set from '78, plainly marked on the outside of the boxes. Not all are marked - I can't say that categorically, but quite a few of mine are. Three examples attached -

Regards,
Steve
275  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: window washer questions on: December 27, 2013, 07:00:05 PM
Thanks - just curious.

Regards,
Steve
276  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: window washer questions on: December 27, 2013, 11:56:29 AM
Did I miss something ? Is this an RS or open headlight car ? I assume open headlight as the headlight washer is not on your unit -

Regards,
Steve
277  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: upper hood spring and assembly finish on: December 24, 2013, 01:32:30 AM
The whole assembly is phosphate.
The upper spring was semi-gloss black, I recently found out. George

My NOS latch spring is painted - semi gloss of semi flat, hard to tell. I bought it 15-20 yeqars ago, one of the last to appear on the locators, still have the package but the spring resides on my Pace Car.
278  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: My other 2 69's on: December 24, 2013, 01:23:49 AM
Maybe kinda tough to see, but I put '70 mirrors (R&L, driver remote) on my '69 in '75. Other mods (which fortunately for the car never happened) were planned aftermarket "T" tops (the rage in mid '70's, mfg. by Hurst and others), custom grille with square headlights, black paint with gold highlights/panels; I did install an in-dash AM/FM CB, plus a column mount Sun Super tach. Removed the console, installed a Mr. Gasket Pro Shifter, recarpeted with fuzzy shag black carpet. I was proud of it, still am considering I should be shot for what I did to it, or for what I wanted to do to it - at least most of the car made it this far fairly intact.

In 1979/80, I learned what the X77 stood for on the cowl tag, so mods ceased and recovery began - still at it all these years later.

Regards,
Steve
279  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: tag on: December 24, 2013, 12:58:58 AM
Clem,

Hopefully you can see the color in the attached pic. I recently developed a batch of old film that had this '65 Impala in it, a dead ringer for the car my parents owned (that's why I took it !). I always admired Evening Orchid, wish we could have kept the '65 -

Regards,
Steve
280  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: clips and seal for RH side inner fender brace on: November 29, 2013, 10:06:18 PM
Here's an observation - notice the AIM shows the number of staples required for the assembly (6) - I count 5 on my original Z shield (shown); I have one for the X66 SS that is missing the material, and has only one staple through the bracket. I would guess that an assembler probably shortcut it, and the seal eventually came off (leaving the bracket behind).

I sure wish my originals looked as good as George's previous example - I wouldn't mind replacing my "survivor" to make it look better than what it does -

Regards,
Steve
281  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: I just purchased a 1968 RS/SS on: November 23, 2013, 09:06:54 PM
Welcome to the group corvette bronze is great looking color! Big block or small block car 4speed  or automatic car. I love 68's the best.

And I thought it was Lemans '69's you were stuck on - shows what I know.

Traitor -

282  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Storing Tires on: November 20, 2013, 12:34:01 AM
I stored two sets of Goodyear originals, one set for 20 plus years, stacked flat (first tire on wood), separated by a single layer of plastic to keep the carbon black from penetrating the white letters. Light coat of protectant on the tires, otherwise they sat in one spot for all that time in a frame garage, not climate controlled, and were dry-rot and check free when I sold them a couple of years back. If you store them for a long length of time upright, they'll probably flat spot (my B.F. Goodrich T/A's were terrible after 19 years in the same spot, no dry rot amazingly, but were quite square). The Goodboots were not mounted; the T/A's were on my LS5 Chevelle, sold in 2011.
BTW - the T/A's did not rot, either, but I sure wouldn't have run them on the street - felt like a Shriner's clown car when I pulled it out of storage.
283  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: new restoration endevour on: November 09, 2013, 11:29:06 AM
I believe I'd save as much of the original panels as I could, cut the rust out and replace it. It's only going to get worse - rust never sleeps - this car is a keeper in my estimation, so bite the bullet and get 'er done. I had the opportunity to work on a true survivor car several years back - there were some imperfections in the 100% original paint (quarter panel at the rear window scratches, front stripe, door stripe, front header panel) - a 7000 mile '68 SS 350/295, Corvette Bronze - the then-owner decided to touch it up, and it actually worked - you really could not see the areas that were repainted, the overall effect was outstanding. True, it should have been left alone, but the owner wanted perfection. Point is you can fix the issues without detracting from the car, and help preserve it for the years of enjoyment to come.

The rest of the story - fix was not cheap, $1100 in 1995. Painter was well renowned local guy, painted many of a local collector's Yenkos and others, one of the best I have seen. With color matching today as high tech as it is, color blending shouldn't be a concern if you use the right guy.

Just my 2 cents -

Regards,
Steve
284  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Movie / TV Camaros on: November 04, 2013, 10:01:16 PM
Not surprisingly, no mention of "Bullitt" yet, but it is full of everything, including the yellow '67 coupe at the car wash scene (Duvall and McQueen in the taxi). Car had to be about a year old, or less. I found a pic, but can't resize it -

Love Bullitt! Here's a little closer view of that butternut Camaro...



I see a couple of things I couldn't see in my small pic - wheel well trim, rear bumper guards. Full wheel covers, but I can't make out the type. Also noticed that's Duvall, with McQueen approaching off his shoulder to the right. Great flick - I still look at the chase occasionally to see all of the cars on the street.

Thanks for expanding it -

Regards,
Steve 
285  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 124379N561026 in database?? on: November 03, 2013, 11:49:57 AM
Earliest possible week. 12A's don't have it, I've seen more than several "X" marked 12B's over the years.

1969 Cowl Tag - X Codes
The Xnn codes were a mid-1969 model addition to the Fisher Body cowl tags of Norwood-built Camaros, starting with the 12B (second week of December) build week. (CRG has found 12B cars both with and without these codes. Our data for all cars in prior weeks is absent this code, and our data for all cars in weeks following contain this code.) These codes were an aid for Fisher body assembly workers to identify body trim and paint changes required for different Camaro models. The codes are divided into two groups: those with the Z21 style trim option and those without the Z21 style trim option.
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