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211  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Part Number Stamp or Sticker on Wiper Motor Assy on: August 07, 2013, 07:02:28 AM
Steve, are you sure that wiper motor is original to the car, as a julian date of 079 and an 01D trim tag build date don't align? If the julian date on the motor assembly is model year, not calendar year, that doesn't seem to match well with the other data so far.....
The 'B F' at the end of the sticker throw the previous theory of factory line number and shift code a curve ball too....
Anyone have some ideas Huh

Sign of over maturity - the inability to proof read posts. Never seen a Pace Car built in January ? I haven't either - in my struggle to copy and paste the table, I entered the wrong date code twice. It is an 03D car, my X77 in an 01C: somehow I married the two. I'll have to dig out the X77's motor - if I remember correctly (again, tough at my advanced age), it is a stamped car, no tag. We'll see -

Thanks for catching me sleeping -

Regards,
Steve
212  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Part Number Stamp or Sticker on Wiper Motor Assy on: August 06, 2013, 11:16:27 PM

Car build date    NOR/LOS      RS?       sticker PN?       Stamped PN?                 Other codes            Ink or paint part #

       09C              NOR           Y         5045605                   N                      227      9     6      A
       ??                                 N         5045572                   N                      282      9     6      B
       06A              NOR           N         5045572                   N                      134      9     6      B
       01D              NOR           Y         5045605                   Y                      079      9     B      F     Yes - yellow





Z11 pacer

Regards,
Steve
213  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 OEM AM antenna question. on: August 06, 2013, 03:09:22 PM
<<Thanks. Something I did notice looking for a mast, some screw in and some slide in the base.
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The '69 Camaro AM antenna simply slid into the base, but it had two "teeth" on it that engaged similar "teeth" on the base so the antenna could be oriented with the chord of the "airfoil" shape fore-aft for minimum air resistance, and the stainless nut retained the antenna to the base.

See the tag attached to the NOS mast in my pic #4 above - instructions on how to align the mast during installation; JohnZ always nails it.

Regards,
Steve
214  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 OEM AM antenna question. on: August 06, 2013, 03:05:40 PM

This auction is a '68 (and earlier) mast - bodies are completely different between '68's and '69's - mast cross section is the same, as is the length.

Regards,
Steve
215  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 OEM AM antenna question. on: August 06, 2013, 02:59:07 PM
Anybody else have OEM AM antenna pics to share?

3-'69 NOS AM masts, 1-'68 NOS AM mast for your perusal. The other NOS jacket, 370147, is the AM/FM solid mast. All of my NOS 68-9 masts have grooved tips, as does the original AM mast on my 01C X77 car. If you need any other detail pics let me know.

Regards,
Steve
216  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Part Number Stamp or Sticker on Wiper Motor Assy on: August 05, 2013, 10:06:26 PM
Gary,

You might add another field to the features poll - I have a RS/5605 that it stamped, foil tagged and has a very faint yellow ink/paint stamp with the part number on the side of the case. Only one like it I have ever seen - I have 4 or 5 of them, but this is the only one with an original enough finish to show the rubber stamped part number. I'll try to get a pic of it during day light so it will show up -

Regards,
Steve
217  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: I found a Sequoia Green Z28 with air plenum 9 k miles ! on: August 02, 2013, 10:57:21 PM
By the color, I assume you are talking about a 68. Does it come with any documentation verifying it's a Z?

Brian,

Since '68's are easy to represent as a Z from the cowl tag standpoint, if this great sounding car lacks good documentation, be extremely careful with opening the wallet (goes without saying !). Like a lot of enthusiasts, I've come to realize the misrepresentations are everywhere, and people will tell you anything to sell a vehicle. There are a good many legitimate sellers out there, but an over abundance of fakery exists in this hobby. Don't let your enthusiasm overwhelm your better judgement -

Speaking of restoring 9K cars, a good friend of mine bought a '68 SS with less than 8K on it a few years ago, original everything except the rear end, documented; proceeded to do everything from touch up the original paint to rechrome perfect bumpers, replace small parts and trim, and change one of the best survivors I have ever seen to a restored car. Something about original paint cars makes you sick to see one messed with. Bad thing about it was I helped him do it.

Post pics if you can - Bullitt65 is right about pic junkies. I'll bet you'll get opinions out the kazoo -

Regards,
Steve
218  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 spare wheel on: July 31, 2013, 07:47:11 PM
Precisely - thanks, DW -

If the creeping thing was a 12B or C, I wouldn't have to go through the guesswork of whether it's an X66 or an X22. Gotta be one or the other, but with no original paperwork, how can I tell ?

I don't think it is a Style Trim car (not an RS, anyway due to the rear valance), standard interior, no console, and the quarters are not drilled for gills. My guess is that it's an X66 -

Regards,
Steve
219  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Very original (unrestored) '69 X44 on ebay on: July 30, 2013, 10:00:38 PM
It was the color that I noticed first (I don't recall the striping - sign of advanced maturity) - I do believe it was the first time I had ever seen that color on a '69. It really is an atractive color, regardless of interior color IMO. I'm still partial to Le Mans, though - ask Sport what his favorite color is (I'm sure he'll answer Le Mans !).

Regards,
Steve

I do remember something about the wheels - did it not have a set of caps on it rather than ralleys ?
220  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Very original (unrestored) '69 X44 on ebay on: July 30, 2013, 08:11:58 PM
My 69 was the same setup.  Bought it from a 90 yr old woman in 1989.           

Would you believe I saw her driving the car sometime in the mid-late 80's around the square ? I tied to catch up with her, but she was out-of-sight in a blink. I mentioned it to your dad many years ago that I had seen an elderly lady driving a green coupe around town - that's when I found out it was yours.

Small town, small world -

Regards,
Steve
221  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Fan Shroud on: July 27, 2013, 10:37:14 PM
My query was just over the part number, as I have never before seen a genuine GM 7-digit part number with a dash in it.

None of the four of my small block shrouds have a dash in the part number string. I don't have a re-pop on hand, so I can't determine if that is the case, or maybe a later production original GM. Anyone else have an example ?

Regards,
Steve
222  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner on: July 27, 2013, 04:25:28 PM
The NOS ones that I have have the 4 dimples. Probably for installation purposes-

Regards,
Steve
223  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Cable Motor Support on: July 27, 2013, 11:27:15 AM

It was a dealer service bulletin, but I wonder how many left the dealer floor with them added before the sale (after the service notice ?).

My '69 X77's was still on it when I bought it in '73 -
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I reckon that solves that - previous owner must have responded to the recall. I still intend on putting mine back on - just the way I drove it in '73.

Thanks Ed -

Regards,
Steve
224  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner on: July 27, 2013, 11:11:47 AM
Maybe I should have included open element Z28 cars as well.. 

Hey Darrell,

01C X77 - assume it was original since it was on the car in '73 when I bought it, as early as '72 when I first saw it -

Regards,
Steve
225  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Cable Motor Support on: July 27, 2013, 10:27:24 AM
Thanks..
Just curious why you see it on some cars and not other ones. Was it due to the breaking of the driver side motor mount. They look kind of cool on the cars I've seen them on..
TMS
Eddie

It believe it was intended to do just that - restrain engine movement in the case of mount separation/failure, plus it would limit rotation (supposedly) to prevent that failure. It was a dealer service bulletin, but I wonder how many left the dealer floor with them added before the sale (after the service notice ?).

My '69 X77's was still on it when I bought it in '73 - I have no way of knowing when it was installed, though. I removed it when I installed headers in '74. I kept my original manifolds to reinstall, plus I have an NOS kit to reinstall the cable when it gets to restoration sometime in 2025 -

Regards,
Steve
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