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196  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 spare wheel on: May 24, 2014, 09:50:33 AM
Thanks for the correction - a classic case of me commenting without realizing the subtle change in the thread direction. I looked at the color, not the configuration, and was still thinking N66 -

I'll be more careful -

197  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 spare wheel on: May 23, 2014, 07:51:47 AM
A February N66 equipped car kinda stretches the aforementioned January 8th deadline (if it was January the 8th) out there, doesn't it ? Car could have been ordered before the cancellation, obviously.

Nice trunk and appointments - the VE3 hook is a lot brighter than mine. The color always reminds me of Ford Blue.

Regards -
198  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 spare wheel on: May 22, 2014, 10:25:22 PM
My factory YH and YJ rallys are black on the inside and backside (unrestored, original paints), the factory YA's (original paint) and the set of AO's I restored (also original paint) for my '70 SS Chevelle were grey on the backside, black on the inside, with a little black overspray around the backside of the rim (you can see this in the pic, slightly). The grey is more reminiscent of "jack" grey or putty than "shock" grey, come to think of it.

My N66's were produced in '68 - I doubt they are service wheels. The AO's I had were original to that car, also (perfectly dated to the car to boot). If there is another circumstance for these, I'm not privy to it. My sample size is pretty small to draw a complete survey -

Regards -
199  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 spare wheel on: May 22, 2014, 06:38:05 PM
Dig the giant wheel weight - indicative of what I took off of it (Goodyear WT GT, RWL's). Tires were original Goodboots, not Brazilian copies.

Regards -
200  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 spare wheel on: May 22, 2014, 06:35:35 PM
Don't forget the other option - SS five spoke wheels, 14 X 7 AO code K-H's, available up until late '68 if I remember correctly, I've always called them SS-1's. Some people like 'em, some don't, but I'm happy to have all 5 of mine on the L78 X66 12A barn car.


Were yours (original wheels) in original paint?
and if so what color is the reverse? Black or Grey?


I answered the PM before I saw this - please see attached pic. Definitely gray (or grey) -

201  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Startin from Scratch-68 RS/SS 396 restoration on: May 18, 2014, 11:24:07 AM
I've seen worse ! Documented ?

It's a long road, not for the faint of heart. Keep us posted on the progress - 
202  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Z stamp on: May 18, 2014, 11:21:20 AM
My point exactly - thanks, John.

The head would have to be off the block to get the stamp in that location. Seen that mistake before -

203  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Z stamp on: May 17, 2014, 11:59:04 AM
Compare the 67 pad to this original 68 MO pad for font size, position and relation to the head and engine code. I know it's a 68, could be a little different, but it's an original Flint stamp and Norwood VIN - for comparison -

204  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Z stamp on: May 17, 2014, 11:36:19 AM
There seems to be an extra VIN stamp above the engine stamp - didn't quite get cleaned off. I don't think the factory would have done that, considering the VIN stamping was at the Norwood. See the small font "4" in the attached pic (arrow).

The area around the stamping does appear if it was shaved down compared to the are above it. I really don't think it's legit - considering the worth of an original block to the selling price of a car without one, it adds considerably to the suspicion that it's not original.

Just my opinion -

205  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / Re: DZ Block V1121DZ? on: May 16, 2014, 10:21:48 PM
Strange surface finish, appears to be shot blasted or peened after decking.

Could be 553219 - hard to tell even under magnification.

Regards -
206  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: No fire to the plugs on: May 16, 2014, 09:59:42 PM
Meter, definitely. Remove the old points, install the new ones, replace the cap, connect the dwell meter and remove the coil wire from the cap. Using the appropriate allen wrench or point tool to reach through the cap window, have an accomplice crank the engine: adjust the points to 30 degrees of dwell and you're done. Replace the coil wire and fire the engine. Sure is a lot easier on your back, and your eyes than trying to set point gaps with the distributor in place. Buy a cheap meter, or borrow from a willing neighbor if you can find one ! Also, make sure the wire from the distributor is connected to the negative coil terminal, not reversed.

If you think a single set of points are fun to set, try an old Mallory dual point YL-482 like I ran for years. You can do the same thing with them as you do a window type distributor cap, only you have to set both sets of points without the benefit of a window cap.

Regards - good luck and let us know how you do.
207  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Z stamp on: May 16, 2014, 09:36:43 PM
Pad appears to have been scraped; you can see the suggestion of "crosshatch" marks of a blade-type scraper in the reflection of the pad. Font looks a little too crisp, and I agree with the suspicious VIN font sizes.

All in my opinion - for what it's worth.
208  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 16, 2014, 07:49:56 AM
Just got my refund for 9N707541. I've been glued to this thread since it started. I appreciate all the efforts by yourself
and others to accomplish this task. My question is, did I just get lucky to be one of the missing (random) or does it seem that other October 1969 build cars will also be missing? I guess my real question is whether mine might still have some hope to be found? Thanks again.

I can't answer your question about other cars missing in the same VIN area at this point. We miss about 7% of the cars we check, just the way it is. We have found batches that for some reason did not sort correctly, we have found pages that got missed in the digitization. The important thing to realize is we have kept a record of every car we missed and it is flagged as missed so if we do uncover a group of numbers we will recheck the missed cars against them and notify anyone that it affects.


I received my refund very (reluctantly) quickly - N553XXX, in the middle of the "lost" VIN's - please keep us posted on any discoveries. I do believe I would gladly double the fee to find this one, even with the documentation of the matching numbered engine that I have with the car. I was in the first day, in the first 100 to sign up, probably one of the first to get a refund, so I lost my place in line. Thanks again for all of your efforts -

Regards -
209  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Master cylinder cover on: May 15, 2014, 11:26:24 PM
My X77 01C Z's cap looks like ko-lek-tor's, no DOT, no J spec. Could not get resolution tonight, will try for pic tomorrow (cap is unrestored, pretty crusty).

Regards -
210  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoration help on: May 15, 2014, 07:07:56 PM
If you see anything incorrect in the photos I appreciate your feedback.

Really nice. Gotta love BB/AC cars, especially this well done - 

Ko-lek-tor beat me to the punch: The only incorrect detail is the current address -

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