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196  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Source for correct rivets to install heat stove on: May 09, 2014, 04:35:08 PM
Bought mine from GM. I'll have to scrounge around to find them - the same type of spiral shank rivet was used on the oil splash shield under the intake. You can pry them out of old intakes if you can find a couple - usually pretty good condition (and I would do like restorers do, don't use them under the intake when you rebuild one - might work loose. Drill and tap for a good capscrew replacement). The original rivets have spiral shanks, not threads, and just tap into place.

Regards -
197  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Very Original 69 Z28 distributor for sale on ebay.... on: May 08, 2014, 09:20:25 PM
Watched this vendor for a long time - he has sold a mix of good and questionable parts over the years. One thing I have always noticed is the lack of VIN numbers or pictures of the VIN's on a lot of his very expensive DZ stamped blocks. I'd be careful -
198  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69 Muncie Transmission tag (pn?) on: May 08, 2014, 09:09:21 PM

Based on bcmiller's post below, were different PN's used on Muncies based on the *rear end ratio*??  Why would they do that??
(I'm trying to learn my 'Camaro new information for the day'...  Smiley

Because each different rear end ratio required a different plastic (I think) gear to make the speedometer read correctly.

Actually, the plastic DRIVEN gear was installed at the car assembly plant. What changed was the internal steel DRIVE gear that was pressed on the output shaft at Muncie;

Actually not pressed on, the gear slips over the tail end of the mainshaft and is secured by a spring steel clip. How do I know ? My '69 Z M20 clip broke, lodged in the reverse gear, and jammed the transmission. I made it to the station I worked at, pulled the trans and found the problem. New clip and back in business. Earlier Muncies pressed on -  
199  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 700R4 Neutral Safety Switch on: May 06, 2014, 11:07:55 PM
I'll ask my Firebird fanatic - he dropped a 200R4 in his 400 '69 Firebird a couple of years ago, built in his garage from an 87 Monte SS core. Darn good job with it, shifts hard and uses the lockout converter at his desired speed. He did a lot of research on this before he engineered (he is a GMPT engineer) it - looks entirely factory. Should be an easy solution - 
200  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: seen this 68 Z on ebay if anyone is looking on: May 06, 2014, 10:56:23 PM
$19,600 on eBay at the present moment. I agree with JKZ27 - I believe I would bring this car back to the edge and drive it.

Maybe too soft a spot in the heart for a Z like this - it deserves better care than it's experienced for a long time -
201  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: Engine swap--are all 327s the same? on: May 06, 2014, 10:46:34 PM
If your L79 was rebuilt with the stock spec L79 camshaft, you'll find it works very well with an automatic or standard transmissions. Not too radical an overlap, draws good vacuum so power brakes function correctly, won't load up at idle like more radical cams do. It actually works very well in 350's, much better than the stock 300 horse cams. I love the idle quality, plus the power.

Don't get me wrong - my 302 solid lifter is still my favorite, but the L79 hydraulic runs a good second place.
202  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 837 alternator fan on: May 05, 2014, 07:39:46 PM
How about the 814 from '68 ? I've been chasing one for years - prices keep getting somewhere just above stratospheric and below sub orbital - I've nearly thrown in the towel.
203  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: stamping real or? on: May 05, 2014, 07:33:03 PM
wrong rear housing? no boss for bracket?

Good eyes ! If it is indeed a complete front and back half, original, it would have the boss and a tapped hole for the support bracket -

Change any opinions ? My opinion is now worse than the perfect stamping caused.

204  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: stamping real or? on: May 04, 2014, 11:09:02 PM
I'll dig out my original and compare fonts. Looks awfully deep and consistent stamping, but at first glance it looks good. Caveat emptor, as all of these things are nowadays -

Regards -
205  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 04, 2014, 10:58:51 PM
Will we receive an email notification of when our data is shipped out?  Would like to know when to expect the letter or package is in the mail.   Grin  Thanks, Darrell

yes you wil receive an email confirming your docuemtn has been mailed, if a refund is issued you will receive an email conifmring that also.

I hope mine makes it - if not, the second one I need is a March car - hopefully it's there. I'll wait the first one out and pray that it shows up -

Thanks for the update -
206  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 04, 2014, 01:45:31 PM
Roughly 78,000 in the same boat ? At least that's 3545 pages they won't have to look through.

Speaking of coincidence - amazing it's missing the non-X code dates for Camaros. I've got the dealer info and MSO for two of my four, the Pace Car is coded, but my original-block documented L78 is the one I was interested in finding out more about, since it's an early, non-X coded car. Shame -

Regards -
207  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 04, 2014, 09:18:38 AM
Hello everyone, is this the same database as NICB?

I can only tell that there have been some conflicts between the two results. In other words what we have has produced different results on several occasions than what someone already had from the NICB.

Two things in this respect I'm told on good authority the NICB files are no longer researchable with out case numbers. Our research indicates the GM records contain more data than what we have seen from the NICB files..


"We are missing the following data:
1969 Camaro 9N508855 to 9N587275
1970 Chevelle made in Atlanta, Seventh digit would be A.
NCRS does not anticipate nor have we been authorized to offer any additional GM brand information.
So from Sept 68 to end of Jan 69 NOR is missing. "

This is going to throw my request out - my Camaro falls in this range. What now ? Do I get refunded, or do I switch my VIN request to the next one I need ?
208  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: seen this 68 Z on ebay if anyone is looking on: May 03, 2014, 11:37:48 AM
Impressive car, throughout. Great documentation, 05E California car (Norwood, but California docs), non-console, showing 54K miles. Awfully complete - this one has been stored (near salt air ?) for along time. Probably original rally wheels, too - look at the 15X6 narrow trim rings. 8300 VIN's away from my early June car. Also looks like a 116 smog pulley, hard to tell, but has the appearance.

This one will make an excellent candidate for somebody - if I had the wherewithal, I'd buy it in a Heartbeat -

Regards -
209  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Best Method For Instrument Panel Lens Cleaning? on: May 03, 2014, 11:23:01 AM
I've used Armor All for cleaning gauge faces - helps protect the paint from futher deterioration. I used clear AA Detailer's Advantage (which was also a recommendation from my convertible top installer to use on the top fabric) - I use it on ABS items as well (fan shrouds, even rubber hoses). Good stuff; if you're hesitant to use it, try it on an old part first - I think you'll be impressed.

Mother's Plastic Polish is great for plastic or acrylic gauge covers - not abrasive, but designed for see through plastics (like convertible rear windows). Anything with an abrasive in it (like toothpaste, which sometimes contains pumice), will leave a haze or swirl if you're not careful.

Just my opinions -
210  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stripe delete on: May 02, 2014, 10:18:36 PM
Have 68 that is stripe delete car. Where the paint code is on the trim tag it is a -1. Talked to original owner he told me special the car  this way.

Wierd Bronze color, isn't it ?

Regards -
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