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181  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Z stamp on: May 16, 2014, 09:36:43 PM
Pad appears to have been scraped; you can see the suggestion of "crosshatch" marks of a blade-type scraper in the reflection of the pad. Font looks a little too crisp, and I agree with the suspicious VIN font sizes.

All in my opinion - for what it's worth.
182  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 16, 2014, 07:49:56 AM
Just got my refund for 9N707541. I've been glued to this thread since it started. I appreciate all the efforts by yourself
and others to accomplish this task. My question is, did I just get lucky to be one of the missing (random) or does it seem that other October 1969 build cars will also be missing? I guess my real question is whether mine might still have some hope to be found? Thanks again.

I can't answer your question about other cars missing in the same VIN area at this point. We miss about 7% of the cars we check, just the way it is. We have found batches that for some reason did not sort correctly, we have found pages that got missed in the digitization. The important thing to realize is we have kept a record of every car we missed and it is flagged as missed so if we do uncover a group of numbers we will recheck the missed cars against them and notify anyone that it affects.


I received my refund very (reluctantly) quickly - N553XXX, in the middle of the "lost" VIN's - please keep us posted on any discoveries. I do believe I would gladly double the fee to find this one, even with the documentation of the matching numbered engine that I have with the car. I was in the first day, in the first 100 to sign up, probably one of the first to get a refund, so I lost my place in line. Thanks again for all of your efforts -

Regards -
183  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Master cylinder cover on: May 15, 2014, 11:26:24 PM
My X77 01C Z's cap looks like ko-lek-tor's, no DOT, no J spec. Could not get resolution tonight, will try for pic tomorrow (cap is unrestored, pretty crusty).

Regards -
184  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoration help on: May 15, 2014, 07:07:56 PM
If you see anything incorrect in the photos I appreciate your feedback.

Really nice. Gotta love BB/AC cars, especially this well done - 

Ko-lek-tor beat me to the punch: The only incorrect detail is the current address -

185  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Fan shroud on: May 14, 2014, 10:28:44 PM
This worked (and still works) for me - use a soft brush so you don't scratch the plastic, warm water and Dawn diswashing detergent, and scrub the shroud clean: be sure and get into all the corners and creases, then rinse and dry. Repeat if you have to to get all of the crud and residue off. The Dawn (and elbow grease) might get the crayon or grease pencil markings off the shroud as well. After it dries, coat it liberally with Armor All - you can use clear Detailer's Advantage, or even the clear Tire Shine (although Tire Shine takes longer to flash dry, and may initially look a little greasy). You'll be amazed at the difference and how close it looks to a brand new GM shroud, I know it sound overly simple, but I've done this on a couple of used shrouds that looked like junkyard rejects, and had them turn out like new. The Armor All also has the benefit of restoring a little flexibility and protects the shroud surface.

When you are as income restricted as I am towards my hobby, you have to make do sometimes. The effort is worth it -

Regards -
186  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy to forum with Old first Gen on: May 14, 2014, 09:33:12 PM

Welcome to the CRG, from one old guy to another.

Good luck in your search for documentation - as you know, '68's are tough due to the lack of trim tag information, unlike the 7's and 9's. If your car was sold new in your state, your DOT may still have paperwork on file (if you're lucky; a lot have stopped retrieving the records). Worth a shot -

Post pics of pertinent details when you have the time, and search for your VIN in the forum to see if by chance someone might have any original drivetrain parts, or you can ask for your VIN to be searched in the database. Hopefully between the bunch of us we can help you figure out what you have preserved for so long -

Regards -
187  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Rain makes corn.. on: May 13, 2014, 03:55:38 PM
After a week of temps around 90, I see that it's gonna be a high of 70, with a low of 48 Friday night in time for the Good Guys in Nashville. Perfect weather unless we get one of the twirly things through here Wednesday (you guys in the Midwest need to stop sending those things this way !).

Regards and be safe -
188  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: I'd like to introduce myself and my Camaro. on: May 13, 2014, 03:51:47 PM
"Nice to see a 20 something on here, there are a few younger guys on here and then some like me in their 30's, then you have all the crotchedy older  guys .... "

"Young Gun" - welcome to the CRG from one of the "crotchety older guys" . Very nicely done, you should have chimed in a long time ago -

Some people are just jealous of maturity - we old guys can still get 'er done (as long as the memory holds out !).
189  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 12, 2014, 08:31:38 PM
Anyone with an MSO on their car receive their confirmation yet ? I'm interested to see the space between the two, if there is one(always heard the MSO was cut on the same day the car was finished).

Regards -
190  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Trim Tag 69 Z10 on: May 12, 2014, 08:22:27 PM
This Z-10 was a roller when I got it (no eng. trans) Needs both full quarters and some skin grafts in windshield area.  Has 12bolt rearend and front discs. I think its real deal. Have other projects ahead, 1 is solid axle Vette  and other 1st gen Camaros   All it takes is time and money  right?

And a dedication to the hobby. I have no money, and very little time, but the dedication and the pursuit of knowledge is very much still there.
191  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stripe delete on: May 12, 2014, 08:16:57 PM


As many times as I've been through the site informationals, it never ceases to amaze me what you can find with a little extra reading. I hope I never stop learning -

192  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Look what my wife brought home for me just now. on: May 12, 2014, 08:04:45 PM
Probably a Mustang tipping over while trying to park in a parking space - while idling. Scrape was the antenna.

Seriously, hope you catch the perp. "Accident" has no meaning here when you hit something and run, the cowards -

193  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Trim Tag 69 Z10 on: May 11, 2014, 10:18:15 PM
How about the rest of the car/firewall ?

Tag looks legit, as do the rivets and age/patina. If this area is that rusted, the remainder must be pretty rough as well. At least it's a coupe -

194  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Incorrect stickers on: May 11, 2014, 08:25:59 AM
WD40 works good on some adhesives - fairly inert and won't harm plastics ordinarily. Afterwards you can remove any residual WD with warm water and dishwashing soap. Other penetrants might work - just be careful to read the instructions for reactivity on plastics.

Regards -
195  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Source for correct rivets to install heat stove on: May 09, 2014, 04:35:08 PM
Bought mine from GM. I'll have to scrounge around to find them - the same type of spiral shank rivet was used on the oil splash shield under the intake. You can pry them out of old intakes if you can find a couple - usually pretty good condition (and I would do like restorers do, don't use them under the intake when you rebuild one - might work loose. Drill and tap for a good capscrew replacement). The original rivets have spiral shanks, not threads, and just tap into place.

Regards -
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