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181  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 28, 2014, 10:38:35 PM
Has anyone been able to compare the official production date to the MSO date yet?

Thanks for asking this again - surely somebody has the MSO on their car and the dealer/build info by now. Am I going to have to send another $50.00 in to answer this ?

182  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Replace bearing races supplied with new rotors ??? on: May 26, 2014, 05:23:30 PM
I'd replace them. Even Timken is not proof from foreign sourcing (read as Chinese) - the local Timken plant here has been fighting the lack of quality from their Chinese source plants' production for years -

Bearings are marked for point-of-origin, races usually aren't.

183  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: WHAT IS THE CRGS OPINION ON THIS COPO on: May 25, 2014, 12:48:14 PM

A nice car for sure, but the photographer should have taken more time to focus the camera, or used something a llittle more up-to-date. Detail shots of the engine bay and trim tag are pretty sick. My Polaroid could have made better shots if I could still buy film for it -

184  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 spare wheel on: May 24, 2014, 09:50:33 AM
Thanks for the correction - a classic case of me commenting without realizing the subtle change in the thread direction. I looked at the color, not the configuration, and was still thinking N66 -

I'll be more careful -

185  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 spare wheel on: May 23, 2014, 07:51:47 AM
A February N66 equipped car kinda stretches the aforementioned January 8th deadline (if it was January the 8th) out there, doesn't it ? Car could have been ordered before the cancellation, obviously.

Nice trunk and appointments - the VE3 hook is a lot brighter than mine. The color always reminds me of Ford Blue.

Regards -
186  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 spare wheel on: May 22, 2014, 10:25:22 PM
My factory YH and YJ rallys are black on the inside and backside (unrestored, original paints), the factory YA's (original paint) and the set of AO's I restored (also original paint) for my '70 SS Chevelle were grey on the backside, black on the inside, with a little black overspray around the backside of the rim (you can see this in the pic, slightly). The grey is more reminiscent of "jack" grey or putty than "shock" grey, come to think of it.

My N66's were produced in '68 - I doubt they are service wheels. The AO's I had were original to that car, also (perfectly dated to the car to boot). If there is another circumstance for these, I'm not privy to it. My sample size is pretty small to draw a complete survey -

Regards -
187  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 spare wheel on: May 22, 2014, 06:38:05 PM
Dig the giant wheel weight - indicative of what I took off of it (Goodyear WT GT, RWL's). Tires were original Goodboots, not Brazilian copies.

Regards -
188  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 spare wheel on: May 22, 2014, 06:35:35 PM
Don't forget the other option - SS five spoke wheels, 14 X 7 AO code K-H's, available up until late '68 if I remember correctly, I've always called them SS-1's. Some people like 'em, some don't, but I'm happy to have all 5 of mine on the L78 X66 12A barn car.


Were yours (original wheels) in original paint?
and if so what color is the reverse? Black or Grey?


I answered the PM before I saw this - please see attached pic. Definitely gray (or grey) -

189  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Startin from Scratch-68 RS/SS 396 restoration on: May 18, 2014, 11:24:07 AM
I've seen worse ! Documented ?

It's a long road, not for the faint of heart. Keep us posted on the progress - 
190  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Z stamp on: May 18, 2014, 11:21:20 AM
My point exactly - thanks, John.

The head would have to be off the block to get the stamp in that location. Seen that mistake before -

191  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Z stamp on: May 17, 2014, 11:59:04 AM
Compare the 67 pad to this original 68 MO pad for font size, position and relation to the head and engine code. I know it's a 68, could be a little different, but it's an original Flint stamp and Norwood VIN - for comparison -

192  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Z stamp on: May 17, 2014, 11:36:19 AM
There seems to be an extra VIN stamp above the engine stamp - didn't quite get cleaned off. I don't think the factory would have done that, considering the VIN stamping was at the Norwood. See the small font "4" in the attached pic (arrow).

The area around the stamping does appear if it was shaved down compared to the are above it. I really don't think it's legit - considering the worth of an original block to the selling price of a car without one, it adds considerably to the suspicion that it's not original.

Just my opinion -

193  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / Re: DZ Block V1121DZ? on: May 16, 2014, 10:21:48 PM
Strange surface finish, appears to be shot blasted or peened after decking.

Could be 553219 - hard to tell even under magnification.

Regards -
194  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: No fire to the plugs on: May 16, 2014, 09:59:42 PM
Meter, definitely. Remove the old points, install the new ones, replace the cap, connect the dwell meter and remove the coil wire from the cap. Using the appropriate allen wrench or point tool to reach through the cap window, have an accomplice crank the engine: adjust the points to 30 degrees of dwell and you're done. Replace the coil wire and fire the engine. Sure is a lot easier on your back, and your eyes than trying to set point gaps with the distributor in place. Buy a cheap meter, or borrow from a willing neighbor if you can find one ! Also, make sure the wire from the distributor is connected to the negative coil terminal, not reversed.

If you think a single set of points are fun to set, try an old Mallory dual point YL-482 like I ran for years. You can do the same thing with them as you do a window type distributor cap, only you have to set both sets of points without the benefit of a window cap.

Regards - good luck and let us know how you do.
195  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Z stamp on: May 16, 2014, 09:36:43 PM
Pad appears to have been scraped; you can see the suggestion of "crosshatch" marks of a blade-type scraper in the reflection of the pad. Font looks a little too crisp, and I agree with the suspicious VIN font sizes.

All in my opinion - for what it's worth.
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