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181  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: CRG etiquette concerning parts on E Bay on: March 14, 2014, 01:58:50 PM
The only reason he sold you that was I told him you were going to paint your car Orange... Cheesy

I had a Carousel Red 69 GTO Judge for a while in the 90's. Same as H.O. and I just had enough of that color. I think 'Cortez Silver' is way better than any other color....  Roll Eyes

Finally - a man of reason concerning color (just kidding for all of you thousands of Hugger Orange fanatics).

Ditto on the seal extensions - glad you had the offer on the one; repros are pretty decent for the extension and the seal flanges.

Regards
182  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68 Z engine parts on: March 13, 2014, 11:37:19 PM
In regards to your suggestion of the Clevite 77's.  Are they that much better than the Sealed Power? 

I've used Clevite since my first build (Power Pack 283, '57 Bel Air) at age 16. I used them in my 302 during a rebuild in '75 - used 12.5:1 Manley pistons; at 30K miles the bearings still look pretty darn good. Machine shop warned the high compression ratio would pound the bearings out on the street, but they were incorrect. Can't argue too much with that kind of success.

Cracked stud bosses remind me of poor removal techniques - probably used a 3 pound Ford wrench to try to free them up before they attempted to pull them. Even good shops can hire lousy people -

Regards,
Steve
183  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68 Z engine parts on: March 13, 2014, 09:08:14 PM
Clevite/Michigan 77 and ductile rings. Chrome moly rings are great for long life, but are twitchy to seat sometimes. People swear by them, but I've never had a problem with seating ductile rings in the initial startup. Proper honing techniques are all you need.

Cut your own ring gaps to factory specs - I wouldn't trust pre-gapped. Be sure and chamfer the ends slightly to keep from scratching the bores (I assume you are assembling the long block yourself), but don't go overboard.

Bummer about the studs pulling out. Did you pin 'em, use oversize (.002) studs, or drill/tap for threaded studs ? I'm not sure if GM still sells the oversize studs, but you could probably find them aftermarket. At least they'll be closest to originals in appearance if you haven't assembled the heads.

JMO -

Regards,
Steve
184  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Is this tag real or fake? on: March 13, 2014, 08:53:54 PM
Tag shows it as a X33, probably right about the valve covers, if that carb stud gets any longer its going to go through the hood.

My bad - I should have moused that into view.
185  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Is this tag real or fake? on: March 13, 2014, 06:30:41 PM
I was surprised to see the woodgrain dash on an X77 car, without Style Trim. Always though that was a no-no.

Valve covers could have used a trip to Jerry's to remove the polish. Bet they're drippers - OTC part numbers, too.

TT is possibly fake - definitely been struck hard to seat the rivets. Maybe removed for restoration ?

Regards,
Steve
186  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Now this is a REAL barn find on: March 12, 2014, 10:50:54 PM
Here's my version. Car is preparing to go from barn to garage, if I can figure out how to stuff 4 in a three car space. I thought about stacking them like my local Camaro junkyard has done - only I don't have a forklift like he does.

I'm prepared for the "shame on you" remarks. Please don't depress me any more than looking at these pics does already. Any small mammal enthusiasts can get a real thrill reading tracks on the windshield as well - combination of cat and 'coon. True "rat" motored car.

No, it's not a Hugger Orange Z, it's a Cortez L78 disguised as HO, plus a little Daytona thrown in for effect. On a serious note, look at the original paint/firewall line blurb right above the heater box. Black cove paint can still be seen in the trunk area.

Those are trumpet vine remnants with some blackberry canes growing inside the barn, or were. Mud dauber nest the size of a grapefruit attached to the taillight for additional camouflage.

Regards,
Steve
187  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Cool old 69 Z/28 commercial on: March 12, 2014, 07:41:45 PM
OMG please remove this before Gary sees it - we'll never hear the end of it !

Joking -

Steve
188  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / Re: 124379N641261 documentation on: March 07, 2014, 08:59:53 AM
Paul,

Thanks for the reply. I sent a PM to both Kurt and Ed last night to try and track down the current owner. Also posted on the forum on Camaros.net - hopefully the owner will see it. This kind of documentation is tough to come by these days -

Regards,
Steve
189  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / 124379N641261 documentation on: March 06, 2014, 11:13:07 PM
I didn't know this car had been sold and moved from the area until I Googled the VIN. I have dealer invoice, MSO, title copies back to original owner in '69. Knew the car back to '86, drove it in '89 before I moved from the area where the car owner and I lived.

Documents released only to verfied current car owner -

Regards
190  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: How long have you owned your Camaro? on: March 04, 2014, 12:30:52 AM
Darrell,

Last time I saw this car, it was being driven on the square by the former owner. A ding or 2, but nothing this dramatic. Did she survive the impact ? If she did, she must have been as tough as the car -

Regards,
Steve
191  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: How long have you owned your Camaro? on: March 03, 2014, 10:00:41 PM
Thanks steve glad you are coming around that corvette bronze is a better looking color than lemans blue.

Maybe so, but it took Chevrolet a half a year to get it right, and when they couldn't sell enough Corvette Bronze cars they discontinued it before it could be perfected. Seems like that happened with British Racing Green, too. Hmm -

Maybe I ought to repaint the '68 Z Lemans Blue - then it would be 3 Lemans vs. 1 Corvette Bronze - you think ?

192  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: How long have you owned your Camaro? on: March 01, 2014, 10:22:16 PM
Bought my 68 L35 convertible in 1981. Was not able to vote for both cars would only let me do one. So i did her one owner 68 327/210 hp. Can you place my car in the survey thanks.

You picked the one with the best color scheme - or the most popular color. Can't fool me -

Regards,
Steve
193  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: How long have you owned your Camaro? on: February 28, 2014, 09:06:54 PM
Pic of the Pace Car in 1994 - still the same.
194  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: How long have you owned your Camaro? on: February 28, 2014, 05:44:44 PM
"Later" version of a '68. I do like the 302 emblems on Darrell's '68, though - always thought that was an understatement.
195  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: connecting rod reconditioning on: February 28, 2014, 05:19:43 PM
Yeah, I looked it up in the P&A and the 67 350 DID use dimple rods! I didn't realize that. I thought they were like 68 and 69 which DIDN'T use dimple rods. I've deleted my original post.

Ed


Yes they sure puzzled me the first time I saw a set, VERY Rare. I personally would use the later 3/8" bolt "pink" rod to gain bolt strength and better rod material, especially if it is a original stamp block.

Then again, the '67's are small journal, no "pinks" until medium journal '68-9, right ?

Regards,
Steve
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