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166  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Another 1969 Z/28 "Barn Find" on: April 06, 2014, 09:21:20 PM
Excerpts from the ad on eBay - possible explanation about the TT/paint code mismatch:

"Q:  On paint condition, page 1, your appraiser says original color is Tuxcedo Black with White Stripes. And why does the cowl tag rivets, look like there filled with something ? Apr-06-14
A:   The car is Cortez silver and anything you see on the trim tag is exactly how it left the factory. It is untouched and original. Jerry did physical inspections on two cars that day belonging to the same previous owner and although the paper work also list Cortez silver with black stripes he made a typo because the other car is a factory black copo 427. Even Jerry m. (Wrote the camaro fact book) is human. We also just noticed it and I'm sure he would correct it. I have already left another q/a to this detail attached to auction site but will attach this one as well to clarify. Thanks for your interest.
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Makes sense, but Jerry's assessment would clear things up -

Regards,
Steve
167  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: clips and seal for RH side inner fender brace on: April 06, 2014, 08:54:34 PM
I dug up the pics of mine - if you look at the inner fold of the clip you can see that the (protected) area is simialr to dark grey phosphate, a mildly rough finish, defintely not blued or shiny in any way. I haven't cleaned it, it's still the same finish as when I took it off the Z in 1980, stored since. I can't speak for all of the clips out there, just my personal sample (and observation), so it's not a large sample size to correlate. Maybe more than one vendor ? Can't say -
168  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Another 1969 Z/28 "Barn Find" on: April 05, 2014, 09:12:07 PM
I don't see the VIN represented anywhere except on Jerry's report.

Is it the same car between the ad and the report ? Puzzling -

Regards -
169  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: No April Fools Cars? on: April 04, 2014, 09:22:10 AM
I was thinking that when I wrote it - my luck it's one of my neighbors.
170  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: clips and seal for RH side inner fender brace on: April 04, 2014, 09:19:26 AM
Clip appears grey phosphate, support bracket is low gloss black, or so mine appears to be. Removed from my car in 1980, not a purchased part, so I know it's original.
171  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Loose X77 Tag on Craigslist on: April 04, 2014, 09:16:18 AM
Looks like either 293912, or 299912. I don't have the sequence vs. build date handy to look at the range.
172  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: No April Fools Cars? on: April 04, 2014, 09:07:27 AM
That has to be the worst blasphemy I've ever seen foisted on a Camaro body. We need to track this person down and have him examined for some fearsome mental disorder -
173  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 'Questionable' or FAKE cars.... Hemmings article on: April 03, 2014, 07:06:30 PM
Amazingly fresh pop rivets on the body tag. Reminds me of some bogus TT's we've witnessed. Evidently fakers grow in Europe as well as in the U.S. of A -

If they had used giant sheet metal screws I probably wouldn't have noticed.

Regards - 
174  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 BB AC brackets on: April 01, 2014, 06:20:30 PM
Way to many "know it alls" at car events Angry I usually go just to look & keep my cars at home.

Amen. I've run into a lot of them over the years - they keep on showing up at every turn. I like to listen as I'm walking through a show, or vending at the swap meet - you can overhear some astounding untruths. Some are downright hilarious -
175  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Paint decode for 69 on: March 31, 2014, 11:58:27 PM
Quite a find. Amazing transformation.

BTW - cowl tag looks perfect (and original). I'd stay after the guy until he parts with several more of these jewels, particularly if he has a JL8 Z with deletes of any kind.
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Hugger orange too, with the most random garage items sitting all over it

I wish you had never mentioned Alabama and Hugger Orange Z's in the same sentence. We're in for it now - just wait until Gary reads this post -
176  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Paint decode for 69 on: March 31, 2014, 11:47:17 PM
Quite a find. Amazing transformation.

BTW - cowl tag looks perfect (and original). I'd stay after the guy until he parts with several more of these jewels, particularly if he has a JL8 Z with deletes of any kind.
177  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Paint decode for 69 on: March 31, 2014, 11:33:47 PM
Looks pretty straight from this angle. Sure has been in storage for a while - like that dust. At least the car was in the south - any farther north, and it might not have survived the road salt during storage.

If that's an original right side mirror, it's rare to see. Looks like the rims are 15's - be great if they are YH's. Car looks to be fairly intact.

Cowl hood is questionable on the January cars, but it's possible. It would have been pretty early, a lot of dealers weren't aware at this point that they could be ordered.

178  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Paint decode for 69 on: March 31, 2014, 11:11:58 PM
No problem. I fully understand the excitement of chasing down info, especially when you've been waiting to get your hands on the car for a long time. I felt the same way when I brought home the last one, a '68 Z, even though I had worked on the car for 16 years, and fully documented it when my buddy bought the car. Still a tingle when you get one home after trying for so long a time -

Congratulations on landing a great car - looking forward to seeing it. Keep on posting -
179  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Paint decode for 69 on: March 31, 2014, 10:58:52 PM
Downloading the app-thanks for the info

One last tip, and I'll quit taking up so much of your time - when you resize, pick something like 640 X 480 for the sizing - good fit with resolution to spare. Click and drag your file and resize - it will save a copy in whatever folder you want to place it, you can rename and store from there. Works for me -

Regards -
180  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Paint decode for 69 on: March 31, 2014, 10:54:03 PM
The 1969 code on the trans is the model year, not the production year - that should be a December '68 build, precedes your car assembly by a couple of weeks -

Regards -
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