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151  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Startin from Scratch-68 RS/SS 396 restoration on: May 18, 2014, 11:24:07 AM
I've seen worse ! Documented ?

It's a long road, not for the faint of heart. Keep us posted on the progress - 
152  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Z stamp on: May 18, 2014, 11:21:20 AM
My point exactly - thanks, John.

The head would have to be off the block to get the stamp in that location. Seen that mistake before -

Regards
153  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Z stamp on: May 17, 2014, 11:59:04 AM
Compare the 67 pad to this original 68 MO pad for font size, position and relation to the head and engine code. I know it's a 68, could be a little different, but it's an original Flint stamp and Norwood VIN - for comparison -

Regards
154  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Z stamp on: May 17, 2014, 11:36:19 AM
There seems to be an extra VIN stamp above the engine stamp - didn't quite get cleaned off. I don't think the factory would have done that, considering the VIN stamping was at the Norwood. See the small font "4" in the attached pic (arrow).

The area around the stamping does appear if it was shaved down compared to the are above it. I really don't think it's legit - considering the worth of an original block to the selling price of a car without one, it adds considerably to the suspicion that it's not original.

Just my opinion -

Regards
155  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / Re: DZ Block V1121DZ? on: May 16, 2014, 10:21:48 PM
Strange surface finish, appears to be shot blasted or peened after decking.

Could be 553219 - hard to tell even under magnification.

Regards -
156  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: No fire to the plugs on: May 16, 2014, 09:59:42 PM
Meter, definitely. Remove the old points, install the new ones, replace the cap, connect the dwell meter and remove the coil wire from the cap. Using the appropriate allen wrench or point tool to reach through the cap window, have an accomplice crank the engine: adjust the points to 30 degrees of dwell and you're done. Replace the coil wire and fire the engine. Sure is a lot easier on your back, and your eyes than trying to set point gaps with the distributor in place. Buy a cheap meter, or borrow from a willing neighbor if you can find one ! Also, make sure the wire from the distributor is connected to the negative coil terminal, not reversed.

If you think a single set of points are fun to set, try an old Mallory dual point YL-482 like I ran for years. You can do the same thing with them as you do a window type distributor cap, only you have to set both sets of points without the benefit of a window cap.

Regards - good luck and let us know how you do.
157  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 Z stamp on: May 16, 2014, 09:36:43 PM
Pad appears to have been scraped; you can see the suggestion of "crosshatch" marks of a blade-type scraper in the reflection of the pad. Font looks a little too crisp, and I agree with the suspicious VIN font sizes.

All in my opinion - for what it's worth.
158  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 16, 2014, 07:49:56 AM
Roy,
Just got my refund for 9N707541. I've been glued to this thread since it started. I appreciate all the efforts by yourself
and others to accomplish this task. My question is, did I just get lucky to be one of the missing (random) or does it seem that other October 1969 build cars will also be missing? I guess my real question is whether mine might still have some hope to be found? Thanks again.

I can't answer your question about other cars missing in the same VIN area at this point. We miss about 7% of the cars we check, just the way it is. We have found batches that for some reason did not sort correctly, we have found pages that got missed in the digitization. The important thing to realize is we have kept a record of every car we missed and it is flagged as missed so if we do uncover a group of numbers we will recheck the missed cars against them and notify anyone that it affects.

Roy,

I received my refund very (reluctantly) quickly - N553XXX, in the middle of the "lost" VIN's - please keep us posted on any discoveries. I do believe I would gladly double the fee to find this one, even with the documentation of the matching numbered engine that I have with the car. I was in the first day, in the first 100 to sign up, probably one of the first to get a refund, so I lost my place in line. Thanks again for all of your efforts -

Regards -
159  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Master cylinder cover on: May 15, 2014, 11:26:24 PM
My X77 01C Z's cap looks like ko-lek-tor's, no DOT, no J spec. Could not get resolution tonight, will try for pic tomorrow (cap is unrestored, pretty crusty).

Regards -
160  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoration help on: May 15, 2014, 07:07:56 PM
If you see anything incorrect in the photos I appreciate your feedback.

Really nice. Gotta love BB/AC cars, especially this well done - 

Ko-lek-tor beat me to the punch: The only incorrect detail is the current address -

Regards,
Steve
161  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Fan shroud on: May 14, 2014, 10:28:44 PM
This worked (and still works) for me - use a soft brush so you don't scratch the plastic, warm water and Dawn diswashing detergent, and scrub the shroud clean: be sure and get into all the corners and creases, then rinse and dry. Repeat if you have to to get all of the crud and residue off. The Dawn (and elbow grease) might get the crayon or grease pencil markings off the shroud as well. After it dries, coat it liberally with Armor All - you can use clear Detailer's Advantage, or even the clear Tire Shine (although Tire Shine takes longer to flash dry, and may initially look a little greasy). You'll be amazed at the difference and how close it looks to a brand new GM shroud, I know it sound overly simple, but I've done this on a couple of used shrouds that looked like junkyard rejects, and had them turn out like new. The Armor All also has the benefit of restoring a little flexibility and protects the shroud surface.

When you are as income restricted as I am towards my hobby, you have to make do sometimes. The effort is worth it -

Regards -
162  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy to forum with Old first Gen on: May 14, 2014, 09:33:12 PM
Tom,

Welcome to the CRG, from one old guy to another.

Good luck in your search for documentation - as you know, '68's are tough due to the lack of trim tag information, unlike the 7's and 9's. If your car was sold new in your state, your DOT may still have paperwork on file (if you're lucky; a lot have stopped retrieving the records). Worth a shot -

Post pics of pertinent details when you have the time, and search for your VIN in the forum to see if by chance someone might have any original drivetrain parts, or you can ask for your VIN to be searched in the database. Hopefully between the bunch of us we can help you figure out what you have preserved for so long -

Regards -
163  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Rain makes corn.. on: May 13, 2014, 03:55:38 PM
After a week of temps around 90, I see that it's gonna be a high of 70, with a low of 48 Friday night in time for the Good Guys in Nashville. Perfect weather unless we get one of the twirly things through here Wednesday (you guys in the Midwest need to stop sending those things this way !).

Regards and be safe -
164  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: I'd like to introduce myself and my Camaro. on: May 13, 2014, 03:51:47 PM
"Nice to see a 20 something on here, there are a few younger guys on here and then some like me in their 30's, then you have all the crotchedy older  guys .... "

"Young Gun" - welcome to the CRG from one of the "crotchety older guys" . Very nicely done, you should have chimed in a long time ago -

Some people are just jealous of maturity - we old guys can still get 'er done (as long as the memory holds out !).
165  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 12, 2014, 08:31:38 PM
Anyone with an MSO on their car receive their confirmation yet ? I'm interested to see the space between the two, if there is one(always heard the MSO was cut on the same day the car was finished).

Regards -
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