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136  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 700R4 Neutral Safety Switch on: May 06, 2014, 11:07:55 PM
I'll ask my Firebird fanatic - he dropped a 200R4 in his 400 '69 Firebird a couple of years ago, built in his garage from an 87 Monte SS core. Darn good job with it, shifts hard and uses the lockout converter at his desired speed. He did a lot of research on this before he engineered (he is a GMPT engineer) it - looks entirely factory. Should be an easy solution - 
137  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: seen this 68 Z on ebay if anyone is looking on: May 06, 2014, 10:56:23 PM
$19,600 on eBay at the present moment. I agree with JKZ27 - I believe I would bring this car back to the edge and drive it.

Maybe too soft a spot in the heart for a Z like this - it deserves better care than it's experienced for a long time -
138  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: Engine swap--are all 327s the same? on: May 06, 2014, 10:46:34 PM
If your L79 was rebuilt with the stock spec L79 camshaft, you'll find it works very well with an automatic or standard transmissions. Not too radical an overlap, draws good vacuum so power brakes function correctly, won't load up at idle like more radical cams do. It actually works very well in 350's, much better than the stock 300 horse cams. I love the idle quality, plus the power.

Don't get me wrong - my 302 solid lifter is still my favorite, but the L79 hydraulic runs a good second place.
139  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 837 alternator fan on: May 05, 2014, 07:39:46 PM
How about the 814 from '68 ? I've been chasing one for years - prices keep getting somewhere just above stratospheric and below sub orbital - I've nearly thrown in the towel.
140  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: stamping real or? on: May 05, 2014, 07:33:03 PM
wrong rear housing? no boss for bracket?

Good eyes ! If it is indeed a complete front and back half, original, it would have the boss and a tapped hole for the support bracket -

Change any opinions ? My opinion is now worse than the perfect stamping caused.

141  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: stamping real or? on: May 04, 2014, 11:09:02 PM
I'll dig out my original and compare fonts. Looks awfully deep and consistent stamping, but at first glance it looks good. Caveat emptor, as all of these things are nowadays -

Regards -
142  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 04, 2014, 10:58:51 PM
Will we receive an email notification of when our data is shipped out?  Would like to know when to expect the letter or package is in the mail.   Grin  Thanks, Darrell

yes you wil receive an email confirming your docuemtn has been mailed, if a refund is issued you will receive an email conifmring that also.

I hope mine makes it - if not, the second one I need is a March car - hopefully it's there. I'll wait the first one out and pray that it shows up -

Thanks for the update -
143  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 04, 2014, 01:45:31 PM
Roughly 78,000 in the same boat ? At least that's 3545 pages they won't have to look through.

Speaking of coincidence - amazing it's missing the non-X code dates for Camaros. I've got the dealer info and MSO for two of my four, the Pace Car is coded, but my original-block documented L78 is the one I was interested in finding out more about, since it's an early, non-X coded car. Shame -

Regards -
144  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 04, 2014, 09:18:38 AM
Hello everyone, is this the same database as NICB?

I can only tell that there have been some conflicts between the two results. In other words what we have has produced different results on several occasions than what someone already had from the NICB.

Two things in this respect I'm told on good authority the NICB files are no longer researchable with out case numbers. Our research indicates the GM records contain more data than what we have seen from the NICB files..


"We are missing the following data:
1969 Camaro 9N508855 to 9N587275
1970 Chevelle made in Atlanta, Seventh digit would be A.
NCRS does not anticipate nor have we been authorized to offer any additional GM brand information.
So from Sept 68 to end of Jan 69 NOR is missing. "

This is going to throw my request out - my Camaro falls in this range. What now ? Do I get refunded, or do I switch my VIN request to the next one I need ?
145  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: seen this 68 Z on ebay if anyone is looking on: May 03, 2014, 11:37:48 AM
Impressive car, throughout. Great documentation, 05E California car (Norwood, but California docs), non-console, showing 54K miles. Awfully complete - this one has been stored (near salt air ?) for along time. Probably original rally wheels, too - look at the 15X6 narrow trim rings. 8300 VIN's away from my early June car. Also looks like a 116 smog pulley, hard to tell, but has the appearance.

This one will make an excellent candidate for somebody - if I had the wherewithal, I'd buy it in a Heartbeat -

Regards -
146  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Best Method For Instrument Panel Lens Cleaning? on: May 03, 2014, 11:23:01 AM
I've used Armor All for cleaning gauge faces - helps protect the paint from futher deterioration. I used clear AA Detailer's Advantage (which was also a recommendation from my convertible top installer to use on the top fabric) - I use it on ABS items as well (fan shrouds, even rubber hoses). Good stuff; if you're hesitant to use it, try it on an old part first - I think you'll be impressed.

Mother's Plastic Polish is great for plastic or acrylic gauge covers - not abrasive, but designed for see through plastics (like convertible rear windows). Anything with an abrasive in it (like toothpaste, which sometimes contains pumice), will leave a haze or swirl if you're not careful.

Just my opinions -
147  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stripe delete on: May 02, 2014, 10:18:36 PM
Have 68 that is stripe delete car. Where the paint code is on the trim tag it is a -1. Talked to original owner he told me special the car  this way.

Wierd Bronze color, isn't it ?

Regards -
148  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...? on: May 01, 2014, 07:46:07 AM
X3 - effortless procedure on line. Anxiously await results - one more to do after the first gets back.
149  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/11 L78 Pace Car "Unrestored survivor" on: April 29, 2014, 10:57:14 PM

X2 -

What happens so many years/owners/machine shops ago is never easy to understand or explain. I've been building drivetrains for a pretty good while, and I've experienced good and less than reputable machine shops. I sold a verified, documented LS5 SS '70 Chevelle a couple of years back, that had the original drivetrain still on board, with the engine completely rebuilt by a reputable shop in B'ham, AL - sure enough, they decked the block and wiped the numbers, in 1983. I understand the then-owner was furious, and it's probably why I was able to buy a 56K mile beautiful car in 1992 for next to nothing (I found the build sheet on it 19 years after purchase, documenting the car). The shop that decked it blueprinted the motor, but apparently disregarded the engine stamp in preference to building a good engine. Durned thing still runs like a scalded dog -

Point being, circumstance outweighs fact some of the time - casting date coding is unusually early (my L78 original block is one month prior in casting to the build date), I have another L78 VIN coded block the same way, but that sample size does not define the range of dates by itself.

That's why I enjoy, and hopefully everyone else that posts here, the CRG. Ain't it fun ?

Regards -
150  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/11 L78 Pace Car "Unrestored survivor" on: April 27, 2014, 11:45:05 PM
Bill Ohio wrote:
"Vin by the filter are usually very hard to read"

Yes, they are, and that one was very legible, for whatever reason?   

But there IS a lot of like about that car (besides the price - although it might be worth it?); Most of the car *looks* original and worn, but ...
1) it's hard to believe an orange interior on a convertible being in that good a shape after 45 years and 92K miles..? 
2) Some folks buy a high performance car (which the 386/375 certainly is), and might 'deck' the block and/or heads to increase the compression a little even when brand new?
If they did that when new in '69, probably the 'stampings' on the block didn't mean very much...

Regardless, I'd love to see the car for a personal inspection.. Smiley

The ad reads "200 miles" since rebuild, although I guess it's possible for someone to have decked it early (why someone would do that to a 11.0:1 big block ?). I guess I need to lighten up and be objective here - anything is possible in this hobby: I don't mean to sound like the devil's advocate in any respect -

Regards -
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