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136  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Time Machine on: January 16, 2014, 12:27:51 AM
Hard to tell but the blue car in the pic but does it have stripes?
I also see a 67 or 8 on the lot pic.  Must have been the trade-ins on the front row cause its sitting next to a Galaxie.

It's Lemans with white panels. Can't tell if it's a spoiler equipped or not: definitely flat hood. The orange and white has a rear spoiler, I think the green one to left has a spoiler, can't tell if the blue 'vert in the foreground has one or not. 4 Camaros in the pic, the white one to the left may make it 5 -

Used lot was in the front left corner (I remember the OK signs to this day), trucks are in the near corner. Reed owned the whole block at one time between Church and Broad - really a shame that Chevy gave 'em the ax after all those years.

Regards,
Steve
137  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Time Machine on: January 14, 2014, 11:05:06 PM
Speaking of time machines - if your imagination still works, you always have one at your disposal.

A while back, we lost a very long term Chevrolet dealer in Nashville, the very one my car came from in February 1969 (28th).
My parents bought their first new car from there, a '57 Bel Air 4 dr. hardtop, which I grew up in. Other cars we bought from there - '65 Impala SS, '65 Corvair Corsa (i learned to drive in that one), '68 Impala Custom Coupe, '72 Impala, and finally my wife's '85 Z28.

Point being, a good friend of ours (who worked for the dealership) found some keepers before they closed - I tried to take as good a pic of them as I could - hopefully you can make out the 3 or 4 Camaros and the Chevelle sitting on the showroom floor. The Lemans Blue '69 Z in the back could be mine - and I wish I could go back to prove it.

Thanks, Sport !

Regards,
Steve
138  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: If Anyone is Interested in a 67 Pace Car on: January 10, 2014, 10:25:23 PM
Another 2 cents -

I hit the big 6-0 this past year - and still proud of the fact I've never grown out of my love for F1's, and Chevrolets in general. I like what Ford did to the Mustangs until this model year; I've finally grown to like the new Camaros (I would really like to own a  new Z), and I think Chrysler did a good job with the Challenger. All that said, drive a new one and an F1 side by side down the street, and see which one gets the attention. Put 'em in a car show the same way, and see which gets looked at first. I have thought from time to time that if you put an equivalent F1 and new one for sale at the same price in a lot, I would probably buy the F1 (with the new Z's coming out, I don't know if I can hold that line much longer).

I believe I saw the '67 that started this discussion at the local Franklin show when it was still held at Pinkerton Park, years ago - probably still have pics of it. It is a sterling car, if it's the same one I've drooled over before. $145K ? Rare, documented (?), and well done, might be to the person that really wants a 1st quality Pacer. 

FWIW -

Regards,
Steve
139  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 rosewood Steering Wheel on: January 02, 2014, 09:52:32 PM
Sorry - I misunderstood the placement. It wouldn't be a '68 or '9 - molded construction with no rivets. Aftermarkets like Grant wheels had them, as you noted. I had one of those in my 1957 Bel Air in the '70's.

Regards,
Steve
140  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 454 engine on: January 02, 2014, 09:46:28 PM
My recently departed '70 LS5 SS came from GM Atlanta with exactly that combination - 365(+) stock horsepower, with a 400 behind it. If your intent is to drive the car, don't put a shift kit in the trans - it will absolutely break your neck on 1-2 shifts at any rpm range. The 454's have an unbelievable amount of torque. Mine ran 10.5:1 compression, L78 square port heads, Comp Cams stick, header and a Holley 850 DP, Edelbrock single plane, Pertronix, and would do a 360 and melt the tires any time you wanted to. Never a bit of problem from the trans, at all. Bulletproof.

It got traded out for a '68 Z - go figure.

Regards,
Steve
141  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 rosewood Steering Wheel on: January 02, 2014, 09:31:54 PM
Bets shots I have of my late departed rosewood. No rivets I can discern - looks to be spot welded.

This was an exceptional wheel I purchased in the mid 80's, long before the current reproductions - a known original wheel.

Regards,
Steve
142  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: NOS sheetmetal on: January 02, 2014, 09:17:34 PM
I purchased the first set from a local GM dealer in the mid '80's, original boxes were marked as you see them in the following shots. I assume they are a month apart due to the dates (78D and E7). I have had these for a long time, paid $329.00 apiece for them if I remember correctly; the later dated quarters have had a mix of "0" prefix and non-"0" prefix tags. Most of the sheetmetal I bought as spares before they discontinued from GM, just because of that reason - plus, you could still buy fenders for $200 and change, quarters for $300 and change, cowl hoods for $400, dash pads for $80, etc., etc.

Started NOS parts purchasing from GM around '80 - veteran pack rat. Worst mistake I ever made was buying for one car, up until the point they multiplied on me. By then, it was too late for a lot of NOS stuff from GM.

Regards,
Steve

143  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: 69Z hard start, backfires on acceleration, stalls when breaking, related issues? on: December 31, 2013, 01:05:53 AM
A couple of things that have not been mentioned in previous replies -

The accelerator pumps on the stock 4053's typically don't give enough of a shot to prevent stumble on acceleration - plus the combination I ran needed more carb, so I changed mine out to an 850 DP - worked for me - I had this problem back in '75. Cold plugs will give you a lot of deceptive problems (found this out the hard way, too - started my rebuilt 302 in '75 with Autolite A22 racing plugs, was ready to toss in the towel until I changed back to the hotter AC std. plugs and cured it). I was running 12.5:1 Manleys in it, with an Erson HiFlow 2H hydraulic - it would literally fly when it finally got the combo ironed out.

A couple of good backfires will trash your power valve(s). Be sure and replace it with the proper configuration valve, one that matches your original carb's numbers.

Lastly, the Pertronix is a good system, or you can use good HD GM or Accel points if you retain a points distributor. Strong coil helps, too - use a ballast resisitor if you use a high voltage coil so you won't burn your points up prematurely if you do use points. Common sense stuff -

Regards,
Steve
144  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: NOS sheetmetal on: December 31, 2013, 12:14:51 AM
Another '81 sticker, note the dates and number sequence -
145  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: NOS sheetmetal on: December 31, 2013, 12:07:10 AM
I was just curious if you could be able to tell the date of stamping from the actual GM sticker.  On the GM sticker above (477) is that 1981 in the top right corner the year Huh

Yep -

Note the correlation between the 6F1 and the 0163 right over the part number (which shows the "0" prefix difference between that and the '78 production date code sticker). I had sold the other '78 panel separately (damaged), and paired these several years ago, subsequently sold over eBay. Wish I still had them - they were flawless.

Regards,
Steve
146  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: NOS sheetmetal on: December 29, 2013, 09:30:21 PM
A lot of my NOS sheet metal has a number stamped on the tag, as do a lot of the boxes (quarters, fenders and misc. sheet metal). The earliest dates I noticed were quarter panels - I have a set from '78, plainly marked on the outside of the boxes. Not all are marked - I can't say that categorically, but quite a few of mine are. Three examples attached -

Regards,
Steve
147  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: window washer questions on: December 27, 2013, 07:00:05 PM
Thanks - just curious.

Regards,
Steve
148  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: window washer questions on: December 27, 2013, 11:56:29 AM
Did I miss something ? Is this an RS or open headlight car ? I assume open headlight as the headlight washer is not on your unit -

Regards,
Steve
149  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: upper hood spring and assembly finish on: December 24, 2013, 01:32:30 AM
The whole assembly is phosphate.
The upper spring was semi-gloss black, I recently found out. George

My NOS latch spring is painted - semi gloss of semi flat, hard to tell. I bought it 15-20 yeqars ago, one of the last to appear on the locators, still have the package but the spring resides on my Pace Car.
150  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: My other 2 69's on: December 24, 2013, 01:23:49 AM
Maybe kinda tough to see, but I put '70 mirrors (R&L, driver remote) on my '69 in '75. Other mods (which fortunately for the car never happened) were planned aftermarket "T" tops (the rage in mid '70's, mfg. by Hurst and others), custom grille with square headlights, black paint with gold highlights/panels; I did install an in-dash AM/FM CB, plus a column mount Sun Super tach. Removed the console, installed a Mr. Gasket Pro Shifter, recarpeted with fuzzy shag black carpet. I was proud of it, still am considering I should be shot for what I did to it, or for what I wanted to do to it - at least most of the car made it this far fairly intact.

In 1979/80, I learned what the X77 stood for on the cowl tag, so mods ceased and recovery began - still at it all these years later.

Regards,
Steve
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