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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Running Hot? on: July 19, 2014, 08:40:43 PM
Temp gauge is in the head. I always ran an aftermarket Stewart Warner in the intake close to the water outlet, mechanical gauge. 180 thermostat would always give me 180, no more.

Check your fan clutch, run a dose of cleaner through the whole system, dump and refill with 50-50 Prestone or equivalent. Older radiators over time will build up an incredible amount of scale in the lower tubes: if you haven't rebuilt the core, you might do so if all of the other remedies don't affect it. Drop in a new thermostat when you clean the system, and always run a thermostat - the restriction it offers to water flow slows down the flow enough to let it pick up more heat for transfer at the radiator. After you have checked all of the above, get yourself an inexpensive infrared handheld thermometer and check the radiator, engine block and heads for hot spots. Rebuild your water pump if you're unsure of it - sometimes the impeller can wear down and lose efficiency over time. You can also use "water wetter" additives, that allow the water to pick up more heat as it flows through the system.

Did you use block off plates for the heat riser ports on the manifold gasket ? I always do to keep the temp away from the carb and gas. Check your mixture, especially if you are running a working A.I.R. pump - too lean on today's gas can make 'em run hotter, too.

One thing I hate is an engine to run warm - I don't like to think of what heat does to an engine for life expectancy -

Regards -

2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: N34 Rosewood Question? on: July 19, 2014, 01:20:47 PM
Mine was a dark reddish brown. Stored for 25+ years inside, looked the same as when I bought it in the 80's. Wish I had taken the pics in natural lighting setting rather than indoors - 

Regards -
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: HURST COMP. PLUS SHIFTER LOOSE LINKAGE FOR M-21 on: July 08, 2014, 06:50:35 PM
Unsure of your description - are you looking for the spring clips/bushings ?

Only clips short of the shifter handle shims I could think of -
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 1111467 distributor on: July 06, 2014, 09:26:39 PM
To me, a "comfortable" date range is possibly mid-February to mid-March, not much closer than 10 days prior to build. I know there are some closer examples, and probably some farther out, but of all the ones I have seen and read about this range appears to be pretty inclusive. Probably varies a little by year, and bears some similarities to carb and alternator dates.

Just my 2 cents -

5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Frt Bumper Stamp on: July 05, 2014, 06:03:40 PM

Nope - stamped right into the bumper, definitely not an ink stamp. First one I had ever seen. I looked at my '69 bumpers, including an NOS one, and did not see any stamping whatsoever. My guess is that the vendor for '68 bumpers, or one of them, stamped their production bumpers: maybe the vendor changed after '68, or changed their process not to include stamping production dates.

Whoever has the car now has the evidence still attached if the bumper is still on the car. Advance Plating in Nashville did the deed(s).

As a sidebar, this bumper went through three plating events. First time, too much copper was used; beautiful job, but soft to the point the guards dimpled the chrome during installation. Redo the second time produced a "blonde" spot where the nickel showed through, third time was the charm. I wouldn't have touched them in the first place if it was my car, but the then-owner insisted on perfection (in his eyes). Pretty vehicle, regardless -
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Frt Bumper Stamp on: July 05, 2014, 10:10:09 AM
While helping a friend several years ago with touching up 7K mile original '68 SS, I discovered that his original rear bumper was stamped with a production date - April 1968, large font. May build car if I remember, featured in at least one of the Camaro books (Hooper's, I believe). Car was phenomenally original - unfortunately, I did not take any pics while the car was stored at my house (prior to cell phone cameras). You'll have to take my observations as proof, but it was there.

The rest of the story - the owner didn't like the original chrome-over-nickel patina on the factory bumpers, spent a lot of money and had them rechromed - his choice, not mine. He also had the 100% original paint touched up for some flaws.

You're only a survivor one time -

Regards -
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Happy Birthday 69Z28 on: July 01, 2014, 10:43:06 PM
Happy Birthday Gary !! 1953 was a good year for Camaro guys. George

How right you are -

Happy Birthday, Gary - 20 days behind you for my 61st. Love the pants - at least they're sitting on top of the F-O-R-D.

8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: June 30, 2014, 02:28:47 PM
Got my Pace Car dealer info today - Courtesy Chevrolet, Houston, TX Dlr. 149, Zone 30. When I bought the car in W. TN, the owner stated that the car was a Western car all it's life (shows it), still had Nevada plates on it. Supposedly owned by an AA pilot based out of Dallas.

Now, if we could only get the early info my small collection would be covered -

9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Green tip dipstick on: June 29, 2014, 11:11:20 PM
2-69 dated, not '68 like I thought I remembered. Early number -

Regards -
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Trunk Lid Identification on: June 29, 2014, 11:05:54 PM
My late great NOS lid - whoever has it got a good one.

I will try to add a pic of my Nov. '69 L78 lid tomorrow, which might give an earlier window. I also can look at my 03C Pace Car, and the 01C X77 to see if there is a two-design lid here.

Regards -
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Green tip dipstick on: June 27, 2014, 08:19:22 AM

 came in the box with my 1969 dated NOS 302 pan.

Regards -
Not intending to HiJack, but I have never seen or heard of a dated oil pan? Where would date be located?

If you'd like to split hairs, we determined it was not a '68 pan, but an NOS pan for a '69 302. Maybe I should have worded it a little differently, but it is what it is. When I get back home, I'll be glad to look up the thread and the part number again and post it.

Regards -
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Green tip dipstick on: June 27, 2014, 08:08:13 AM
Instruction sheet, box and the old part number that was superseded in the early 70's. Part number only showed for a couple of years if I remember correctly. I'd have to go back and look to see, but I think the instruction sheet is dated 1968, the stick was a '68 number, too. I think we determined it may have been a generic stick at the time if the first thread.
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Green tip dipstick on: June 26, 2014, 10:38:18 PM
A couple of pics - flat tip original is on the bottom in one pic, "GM 6041" is the other.

The other sticks are NOS earlier ones, including the grey tip that came in the box with my 1969 dated NOS 302 pan.

Regards -
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Green tip dipstick on: June 26, 2014, 12:04:11 PM
I was one of the respondents on the original thread's poll - 01C Z with the flat tip, marked "use GM 6041".

The only two green tips listed in the poll were November 68 cars - interesting. Maybe the line ran short that month and used a secondary vendor or supply ? Possible, but I think all were marked with the "Use GM 6041" stamp on the stick -

15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Are these numbers good .. 69 Z ? on: June 22, 2014, 10:52:19 PM
The 'location' of the stamps wrt the head are a bit different than I'm used to seeing..  Perhaps JohnZ, William, or Kurt can comment on the gang stamp and if they can get this close to the head with the head installed??   Usually the stamps are more near the front edge of the deck than these...

Getting the casting dates, and all other info would be helpful in making an originality determination...
I thought the same thing Gary.

X3. You just couldn't get the holder that close to the head while installed on the engine, even at an angle.

What's up with the deck surface, too - looks like it's been shot blasted, or needle scaled ? Rough as a cob.
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