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General Discussion / Re: repop parts
« on: October 18, 2021, 05:19:21 PM »
I know the CRG does not encourage politicizing on this site, so I'll make this comment as apolitical as I can. Until we stop sending so much of our manufacturing out of this country, logistical problems like this will always loom on the horizon. "Globalization" has led many of our wholly American based companies to look outside of our borders for cheap labor rates, and little or no import duties to make up for the jobs lost here as a result. Over my career (45 years and still working) of dealing with machined components of just about all material types, I've watched the decline and loss of manufacturers in stamping, injection molding, cold heading, steel, iron, aluminum, and superalloys automotive, aerospace and general component machining, even wood working and textile manufacturing to Mexico and the Orient in ever increasing numbers. Add the pharmaceuticals and electronics, and it gets even worse. Either we start bringing back those jobs (unlikely ?), or we become a service based economy, which already has 10 million job openings nationwide. Sound familiar ?

Just my opinion -

Steve 

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Originality / Re: 09B SS Camaro Rally Wheel search
« on: October 17, 2021, 01:46:58 AM »
What's weird about them ? Wheel code, date ? Care to share some pics ?

Steve

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General Discussion / Re: Camaro 12 bolt shipping
« on: October 15, 2021, 02:53:33 AM »
There is one more alternative you might explore - several years ago I was looking for a transport service to bring my dad's '49 3100 back to TN from TX - I went through a brokerage I found advertised in Hemmings; they posted the particulars on a board that goes out to independent transporters, who wind up looking at schedules and bid on the contract to transport. I had tried to contact a few sources directly, could not get a decent quote or even a response until I decided to broker it. Took a couple of weeks, but well worth it - total charge was about $600.00. The carrier picked up the truck (not running, too !) at my dad's place in TX, brought it right to my driveway. Turns out the guy and his wife lived here in TN, they transport vehicles all over the country. A good friend of mine did the same with a big John Deere from PA to TN - even brought implements with him. There are a lot of carriers around that will do parts as well as vehicles -

Regards,
Steve

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General Discussion / Re: repop parts
« on: October 12, 2021, 02:47:53 AM »
Gary,

I think we may be down to one manufacturer now - all likely from the Taiwan source. Price ranges from $89 to $109, all appear to be painted black. The Classic Industries set has the best description, appears to be semi-gloss; you can always refinish a set to get closer to the original (at least they are still available !)

Regards,
Steve

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Maintenance / Re: 68 camaro rs/ss Speedo cable routing and replacement
« on: October 12, 2021, 02:09:59 AM »
Is your Muncie original to the car ? #1 question -

Steve

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Restoration / Re: Harrison radiator restoration
« on: October 12, 2021, 02:04:20 AM »
Eckler's shows them:

https://www.ecklers.com/camaro-harrison-radiators-show-quality-correct-33-321638-1.html

Oldparts.com has 4 core manual "A" body radiators they say are completely correct (rails and cores, brackets) for around $750. Pic looks really good, too -

One of these days I'll send mine to Glen-Ray, when I can access my 401K, pension or home equity (i've got 4 manual trans radiators to spruce up, from Nova to Z to L78). Thank goodness the rails. brackets and tanks are originals and intact.

Regards,
Steve

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General Discussion / Re: Camaro 12 bolt shipping
« on: October 12, 2021, 12:31:39 AM »
Contact Fastenal Logistics and get a quote. They have a palleting requirement, hopefully the 12 bolt fits within the max size (unless they've changed). They're about the best bulk freight shippers around in terms of cost and convenience - they go store to store only (there's a blue jillion of them across the country); you deliver to the closest store to you, and they'll deliver to the store closest to your purchaser. Otherwise, you'll have to pick and choose from the LTL shippers.

Regards,
Steve

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General Discussion / Re: repop parts
« on: October 09, 2021, 01:03:45 AM »
Speaking of AIR pipes, are they available for '69 Z28's??   What is the source for the best ones, Or are they all made by the same company?



Gary,

'69 Z and '69 BB pipes are still available from several vendors - PartsPlace, Central, Ecklers among others. Since pricing seems pretty close between the vendors, you can't rule out a single manufacturing source. That was likely the cause of the '68 pipes blinking out - when they went, everyone ran out at the same time. I managed to buy what I think was one of the last sets available from Year One - the only place I could find it as a stock item. They had one set -

If you need a set, I'd suggest getting one while they are around, pricing starts at about $89.00 for the set (see the link). Look for the ones listed with the oxide or Parkerized finish rather than HT paint - closest to OE IMO.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/271240398503?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Steve

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General Discussion / Re: repop parts
« on: October 08, 2021, 04:31:06 AM »
I think if you couple this with the fact that the restoration hobby is shrinking perceptably, in that there are fewer cars every year to restore (at least the ones we favor), added with the lack of newer inductees to the hobby and the steady loss of the older generations, and the sources begin to dry up. Example - several years back, you could find reproduction AIR tubes for '68 small blocks and/or '68 Z28 applications everywhere. Tried to find those lately ? Made from unobtanium. Need Sealed Power 11:1 forged 327 pistons ? Better hurry. Some things are already pretty scarce.

I believe it's going to be a lot worse than we expect in the short term. Manufacturers are having extreme problems finding and keeping employees, material flow is horrible, low volume production items get cut quickly or obsoleted, maybe never to return. I'm not a pessimistic person, but the alarm bells are going off. If you need it, can aford it, and can find it, better stockpile it.

JMO -

Steve 

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Caveat Emptor...non-OE rivets
« on: October 07, 2021, 02:54:43 AM »
Statement by the owner or rep for the car stated the trim tag had been removed during restoration and re-installed (no joke !), but the VIN tag had never been removed from the car. Strange to see the Pop Rivet stem still in the hole on the passenger side rivet, which have been installed wrong side up anyway. Trim rivets look like WWll Tiger tank exhaust shield rivets, not that I've ever seen any. 

Bet you it still brings a faii amount - tough to resist a big block vert, especially by people that could care less about whether things are on the legal up and up. Shame -

JMO -

Steve

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1969 - Orphans / Re: 19N608287 DZ block on facebook marketplace
« on: October 03, 2021, 09:19:52 PM »
Gone by the time I tried to see it, was it a Norwood or VN VIN ? Well within the time frame for an above-the-filter partial VIN code, could have been a machine shop stamping during a rebuild, but the deck surface looks a bit too smooth overall by my opinion. Gone for now -

Regards,
Steve


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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Letter for month code DZ block
« on: September 29, 2021, 12:46:16 AM »
If it was a restamp it was likely done when the car was restored. Pre-1994. But other than the K which is suspect I think the rest of the stamp looks correct. Am I way off?

Everything but the "K" looks correct, or at least believable. The "K" is defintely not sharp-faced as the other stampings, had to be after the original stamping was produced, or substituted. It is in alignment with the balance of the stamping, correct size, it just looks goofy. Need to strip the paint and look at the deck surface to see if it's been monkeyed with - either way, somebody messed it up to the point where it can't really be trusted anymore. And it will be difficult to proove validity.

JMO -

Steve

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Letter for month code DZ block
« on: September 27, 2021, 09:38:59 PM »
Apparently not - crickets are ominous.

Best to post a pic of the stamping if you can - you'll get a lot more opinions as to authenticity.

Regards,
Steve

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Creative Trim Tag
« on: September 12, 2021, 01:08:49 AM »
A classic ! At least the seller makes no claims of authenticity, other than calling it a Z28 RS. Beats the one at a local show here that secured the tag with a couple of #10 sheet metal screws (and a repro tag to boot).

At the least - it would have been more acceptable (and believable) if they hadn't gone to so much trouble to ruin the tag - it was before the X code addition for a Norwood car in the first place.

Regards,
Steve

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Van Nuys Tag on 69 camaro
« on: August 26, 2021, 02:29:03 AM »
All the hype, money, effort and advertising, plus all the disclaimers and assurances, and they can't get the Z28 emblem placement on the grille in the right place ?

Really a confidence builder and inspiration for trusting this restorer -

Nice car otherwise/

Regards,
Steve

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