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Restoration / Re: fw wheels abd trim rings
« on: July 29, 2012, 09:14:07 PM »
The "recall" came from a post in the forum I read the other day. I never heard about a recall, and I've owned my '69 X77 Z since 1973, serviced it for a year and a half at the Union 76 station I worked at before I bought it. The trim rings and derbys, which I so carefully removed when it was parked on the street (when I was at school), are original to the car at least as far back as '71, and they are not 4 clip rings. By the way, all 5 YH wheels are still with the car, too - I resisted the urge to put aftermarkets on it, same as I didn't give in to the fad at the time and cut the roof for aftermarket Hurst T tops.
The only other scenario as to why the rings are "grippers" on my car would have had to have been a recall - or they are originals. 41K miles on it when I bought it for $1600, with Goodyear Polyglas GT's (second set) on car. The wheels have only ever had three sets of tires on them, stored since 1980. Rims are unrestored.
Like I said, this was an opinion, not an argument, based on my experience. If someone has additional info on a recall, silent or not, please chime in.

Restoration / Re: fw wheels abd trim rings
« on: July 28, 2012, 09:35:32 PM »
Original trims and derbys will fit just fine (and grip) on the FW wheels - I have a set on my Z11 pacer (came with the car when I bought it; I like the 15's better than the original YJ 14" rims). The FW offset maybe a 1/2" different from the YH (I have all five of my original YH's on my X77), but when you have the trim rings on you cannot see, or feel, any difference in the rims from YH's. I have trims with 4 clips, and also the crimp style (recall, later production) holding, and they both fit fine. Just my opinion -

Restoration / Re: Air Injection Pulley, need a 116
« on: July 15, 2012, 02:30:48 AM »
I have a couple (not needed as all of my cars are DG pulley cars) - I'll spare one if you still need it. Reply back and I'll post a pic if you prefer.

First I heard of it. When and where in Nashburg ?

Decoding/Numbers / Re: 01C build date on a 69
« on: July 06, 2012, 04:39:35 AM »
Occasionally, parts can be a little closer than 30 days prior to the build date. December 1968 was a 5 production week month, meaning the 3rd week of January 1969 is a little later than you realize. My 01C X77 '69 Z had the MSO cut on the 28th of January (the date of release of the car from production). I have seen several quotes that suggest the actual build was on the day the MSO was completed and the car assigned/shipped to the dealership. I have parts as close as 10 days, and as far out as a couple of months. Other original Camaros I have bear up to the same relative time periods for parts as well.
Remember, these are just my observations - I don't pass myself off as an expert, just a long -term Camaro owner/enthusiast (39 years).

General Discussion / Re: headlight washer t valve
« on: June 24, 2012, 05:16:11 AM »
Sounds pretty pricey. Finding an original is getting tough at any decent price, and I have seen these things go for stupid money on many occasions. Last one I bought, 2 years ago, I found at a swap meet complete with the proper coded wiper motor, and a complete valve, for $15.00 (the truth !). Unfortunately, the nylon used for the valve bodies as built in the 60's will usually degrade to the point where it will break easily, or the finish gets pretty bad, or it discolors to the point where you really don't want to use it. If you can't find a good used one for a reasonable amount, buy the repop with the correct date codes, bracket finish, and better quality plastic molded valve - they are too darn close to original not to use, plus you can get one for abouit $179.00 complete.

General Discussion / Re: headlight washer t valve
« on: June 23, 2012, 02:31:34 PM »
White connector ? Not that I'm promoting any company, but the complete valve is available, either as an assembly or the component parts. I contemplated building this thing for many years, even found the original solenoid (coil) mfg., talked to the GM restoration legal people, had GM engineering draw the valve body as a manufacturing print, talked to plastic injection mold shops, and bought several valves and motors (originals) to pattern everything, and then at least one company beat me to the punch by reproducing the whole thing. So - buy it from them, or you can get the same valve through several known parts vendors. One thing that's not reproduced, or at least one that I can find, is the black "Y" connector that ties the two outlet hoses together into one hose - I have a couple of originals that I treat like old gold - they are put away until I need them. If you don't want a repop, you're stuck with searching for an original good enough or intact enough to restore.
By the way, the coil (solenoid) portion of the valve is gold cad on the bracket, versions in silver cad are incorrect. I can send you pics of an NOS coil that I bought from GM years ago, plus part numbered originals that retain the gold cad finish. Part numbers for valve bodies and coils are available through any vintage GM parts catalog, I can supply those if you can't find them.

General Discussion / Re: What's it worth ?
« on: June 22, 2012, 01:37:01 AM »
Lost a rod through the cylinder wall - head deck is intact, but lifter valley is damaged. May be repairable, but right now is a 500 lb. Protect-O-Plate. Excellent std. bore 272 JH coded properly dated block goes with the car -

General Discussion / What's it worth ?
« on: June 22, 2012, 12:32:53 AM »
I have an original motored L78 '69 SS, a basket case barn car, but with the original (hurt) block, plus a JH coded spare std. bore block. 12/68 build, pre-X code, but original block is still with the car to document what it was. NOS fenders, good floors and trunk, quarters need help, SS-! wheels are still with it, date matched 840 heads, 6223 crank std/std, non-original but '69 dated M20, original BV 4:10 still under the car. Needs complete going through, but worth it. Opinions on what price range this car would bring on the market today ? Cortez Silver, std vinyl interior, non-RS. Interested in everyone's opinions - 

General Discussion / Re: headlight washer t valve
« on: June 22, 2012, 12:23:22 AM »
Check out Impala Bob's for complete valves with solenoids - he used to sell needles and small parts (like the lower half that commonly gets broken when you try to take them apart).

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