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226  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: factory eqiiped headlights on: January 14, 2014, 04:46:02 PM
Let's see..    TWO Z28s with the same type of replacement HL bulbs?   After only 45 yrs?... and a bit over 20,000 '69 Z28s?    and a small handful of manufacturers who made these bulbs over that time frame??    hmmmmmmm...   quite a coincidence..  Smiley
Gary. Nobody is trying to draw a conclusion based on just 2 cars, simply looking to find out if anyone else had these on their car too. Others are welcome to contribute, preferably positively.
227  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: factory eqiiped headlights on: January 14, 2014, 06:05:19 AM
Tim, i uncovered the Z and it has a sealed beam identical to the one you have, the one that does not say "DOT" i will post a pic, the font is the same too. it`s even on the same side of the car, passenger side  Smiley  so maybe it`s factory, hard to say but being the T3`s and Powerbeams say guide most likely not ? food for thought i guess being 2 z28`s have them.
Wow! Thanks very much for checking, and it's really interesting that your passenger side headlight is the same as mine (I assume your car was missing the driver's side light when you got it?). Maybe they are factory after all, possibly even a substitute part for one that had supply or quality issues? I see your car is 03E and mine is 04A, so they could have been fairly close if yours is a VN car too.
Anyone else got this type?
228  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Silver Z pictures from 1971 with second owner on: January 12, 2014, 06:22:10 AM
Any idea what the sticker on front bumper, driver's side, was Chick?
229  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69' Z/28 on eBay... What a Car! on: January 12, 2014, 02:14:18 AM
Looks like a nice car, if you can overlook the minor finish issues (like PTB stamps on a Van Nuys car, missing quarter louvers if the rest of the style trim items are factory correct, etc). How big is the loan you're considering?
230  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: factory eqiiped headlights on: January 11, 2014, 07:41:38 PM
i did`nt notice guide stamped in them. i thought all factory lighting had that stamped on it ?
No, they don't have 'GUIDE' anywhere on them, so perhaps they are non-original replacements? Just trying to determine if anyone else has these same headlights (or has at least seen them) on a first gen Camaro....
231  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Silver Z pictures from 1971 with second owner on: January 11, 2014, 07:38:21 PM
Very cool pictures! I can't imagine how proud he must've been to pose with the car (and probably the girlfriend too), when I think back to my first few cars in my late teens and early 20's, they were only one step away from the junkyard..... but all I could afford at the time.
232  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: factory eqiiped headlights on: January 11, 2014, 05:13:56 PM
No-one else has the General Electric Sealed Beams, just T3 Guide or GE Power Beams?
233  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: speedo clips and location on: January 10, 2014, 09:44:44 PM
Thanks for confirming, Chick. The 69 AIM calls up 'cement' to be applied to clip and hole for the 2 locations on the firewall, but nothing for the lower clip down by the transmission - seems like that'd be the most likely place for water to get in and be retained, so I'm going to do what you did and seal it up!
234  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: speedo clips and location on: January 10, 2014, 06:02:04 PM
Anyone know if the factory used any kind of sealant around the hole (once the clip was installed)?
235  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: factory eqiiped headlights on: January 08, 2014, 02:58:08 AM
The font style of the 'USA' is also different on the passenger side headlight, only just spotted that.
236  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: factory eqiiped headlights on: January 08, 2014, 02:27:49 AM
OK here are the photos I took of the GE sealed beam headlights. I noticed that the driver and passenger side have slightly different markings on the lenses, which is strange..... bear with me, there are a few pictures showing all the details:

Driver's side:


'2D1' at the 12-o'clock position:


'GENERAL ELECTRIC' and 'SEALED BEAM' at the 6-o'clock position:


'USA' and 'DOT' at the 11-o'clock position:


'ZA76' at the 1-o'clock position (there may be an 'S' above the Z but can't be sure):


'GENERAL' and 'SEALED' (same on both headlights):


'ELECTRIC' and 'BEAM' (also same on both headlights):



Now the passenger side headlight:


'2' at the 12-o'clock position (not '2D1' as the driver's side):


'USA' at the 11-o'clock position (missing the 'DOT' that the driver's side has):


'SZA60' at the 1-o'clock position:


What are your thoughts on these - anyone else have headlights like these on their Camaro?
237  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Help ! 69 without a protectoplate on: January 07, 2014, 06:35:16 AM
I live in West London about 6 miles from Hammersmith/Shepherds Bush. Great place and very lively socially  -  I organise a monthly London race-drivers meeting at a pub less than a mile from there. What business were you in over here ?
Best regards,
Nick
I worked in construction, various locations over 5 or 6 years from Liverpool Street to Chiswick, Paddington, White City and good 'ol She Bu. In later years, lived just off Uxbridge Road; could see Loftus Road stadium out the upstairs windows, and used to drink in a great pub on Uxbridge Rd - The Askew - loved the English "Bitter" in pints, and they used to make the best pizzas right there in the pub. Ah, it's all coming back to me now!
238  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Help ! 69 without a protectoplate on: January 07, 2014, 06:04:36 AM
Nick,
If I've understood correctly, your dash top full VIN is 124379N651234, but both the hidden (partial) VINs are the same, being 9N527946.
That being the case, and without a firewall trim tag to determine car's build date, it looks like there are several scenarios:
1) A previous owner replaced the entire upper dash, including the VIN plate from donor Norwood-built car whose VIN was 124379N651234, which ended up on car that was built as 12xx79N527946. This is unlikely, as the donor car's VIN would then be visible on the original car and would not match the original VIN on the title, and would cause issues with state DMV and law enforcement, among others.
2) A previous owner replaced the firewall and cowl area of car with VIN 124379N651234 with same panels from a donor car with partial VIN 9N527946, but retained the upper dash and original full VIN. IMHO, less likely than scenario 1 above.
3) Car was originally 12xx79N527946, but has had the VIN from a later car swapped to hide it's identity. Could also explain why the cowl trim tag is missing, as the VIN would not match the build date by a long shot. If so, the car could have been stolen and another VIN (from a wreck, rusted out body, interstate-tagged car or ?) added.
There could also be other scenarios that I haven't thought of, all sorts of things happened over the years and as your car is a race car and (presumably) hasn't been registered for a long time, who knows?
It may open up a whole can of worms, but searching one of the free official US VIN check websites for any combination of full VIN that the partial VIN could have been (*) might tell you if the car is/was once stolen, but......

(*) As it's just a partial VIN, it could have been from an L-6, V8, coupe or convertible Camaro, so the possible combinations of VIN would be:
123379N527946
124379N527946
123679N527946
124679N527946

BTW, what part of London are you from? I spent many happy years living in the Hammersmith/Shepherd's Bush area, and met my (now) wife there.
239  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: factory eqiiped headlights on: January 07, 2014, 03:35:07 AM
I just happened to come across some close-up pictures of some GE Power Beam headlights, and realised they are not the same as the ones on my car. Mine have "GENERAL ELECTRIC" and "SEALED BEAM" on them, but not the round  "POWER BEAM" in the center. Will get a picture tomorrow, but was this type of GE lamp also used from the factory as well as the T3 Guide and Power Beam?
240  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: factory eqiiped headlights on: January 05, 2014, 03:51:54 AM
My April of '69 Van Nuys car has GE headlights, just wondering whereabouts (and in what format) the date code is on them, so I can see if they could be the originals.... although I cannot use them on the highway here in Australia, headlights must dip to the left, not to the right.
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