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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Round 2: Going to see a '68 Z/28 - Need some help w/pics on: Today at 04:27:08 PM
The obvious signs of rust give you some negotiating room, but if the drivetrain and Z-specific parts (as mentioned above) all check out, I'd snap that car up. At least the current owner hasn't attempted to disguise the rust, far better than considering a car with shiny fresh paint covering who knows what?
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: A Friend in Need... on: Today at 04:17:37 PM
That's why I'm such a fan of this site, like-minded people who often go the extra mile to help a fellow member.
Glad you got the car with no issues or missing parts Bentley; is that the X22 car?
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Round 2: Going to see a '68 Z/28 - Need some help w/pics on: Today at 12:38:29 AM
Or just create a photobucket account, upload your pictures to your album and then link to the image HTML code in your post like this:
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Cowl Tag X Codes. on: December 18, 2014, 09:21:34 PM
A10c Los 69 cowl with, in X code location X501 stamped.
Any ideas?
That is the internal Van Nuys Fisher Body scheduling code, has nothing to do with NOR X codes - the fact that it has an X in it is just coincidental.
More here: http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#b
5  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / Re: 9Nxxx007, 69 DZ 302 shortblock on: December 17, 2014, 03:15:47 PM
I don't know the story, but if he had speculation before imagine it now that he has THE block. All the experts will know it's a restamp. GOOD for you, RonnieJ!! Wish someone would have my original block.
Doug, the car being discussed at sYc is a race car missing it's original engine, not a car with a re-stamped block. The owner posted pictures of the car back in the day, and after being brought out of 20+ years storage, hoping someone could fill gaps in it's history. The car has an X77 tag that was questioned because of the spread of dates relating to tag build/schedule week, vin and body number. Interesting thread, well worth a read.
6  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / Re: 9Nxxx007, 69 DZ 302 shortblock on: December 17, 2014, 05:11:27 AM
Glad you provided the entire VIN sequence number Ronnie, and that this looks like it might work out as a win-win situation.
Gives me hope that my block may turn up again someday.

Austin, did you search the VIN, or recall the details from the "Hog Wild" thread over at sYc?
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: IS THIS ANOTHER MILLION DOLLAR 6 BANGER ? on: December 16, 2014, 04:59:21 AM
Neat find Jon
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 67 SS barn find on: December 16, 2014, 04:58:04 AM
That is a great looking car, really like the color!
9  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / Re: 9Nxxx007, 69 DZ 302 shortblock on: December 16, 2014, 04:53:15 AM
Why the secrecy on the entire partial VIN, if you'd require proof of car's identity before selling the block, and then make the throw-away comment that you'd junk it if the current owner doesn't appear?
If the original car is long gone, as the owner of another Z you must realise that block still has solid value to the right buyer as NOM but date and suffix-correct, that is of course if it's as described.
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Service Engines (CE coded) on: December 15, 2014, 09:19:37 PM
Thank you Sir!
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Service Engines (CE coded) on: December 15, 2014, 03:54:16 PM
Thanks Darrell!
Just one thing, could you merge columns F and G to read 'oil pan flange stamp' or whatever makes sense to members please? Some (maybe all?) CE blocks have an assembly date stamped down there on the gasket surface.
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Service Engines (CE coded) on: December 15, 2014, 02:47:29 AM
PS anyone with HTML skills who knows how to format a table and would like to help, please do so; post displays very differently between editing and when displayed on screen.......
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Service Engines (CE coded) on: December 15, 2014, 02:40:43 AM
Updated:
BB/SB   Block Casting   Casting Date   Pad Stamp   Oil Pan Flange Stamp   Note(s)
Cast 1967
BB                      3916323        F 6 7      CE850140       T087
BB                      3916323         F 6 7         CE850154           T087
BB                      3916323        J 8 7      CE853643       T0107
================================================================================
Cast 1968
SB                      3914678        D 16 8      CE922528
SB                      3959512        J 10 8      CE089910
SB                      3932386         J 22 8          CE936524
SB                      3959512        K 29 8      CE946309
================================================================================
Cast 1969
SB                      3956618        A 9 9      CE9A24288
SB                      3956618        A 30 9      CE9A32634
SB                      3970010        E 12 9      CE9A98666
BB                      3969854        F 11 9      CE973962
BB                      3969854        H 30 9      CE070400          T099                  Also first stamped T0916KE
SB                      3970010        I 18 9       CE9B44296                                  warranty repl. for  V0725HX orig eng.
BB                      3969854        J 14 9      CE075672
SB                      3970010        L 8 9      C15408U                         (anomoly; possibly non-factory stamp?)
================================================================================
Cast 1970
SB                      3970010        C 28 0      CE0A48264
SB                      3970010        E 23 0      CE0B00122
SB                      3970010        I 2 0        CE1A94176
SB                      3970010        L 29 0      CEA129749                    (no typo, A before 1, photo available)
================================================================================
Cast 1972
SB                      3970010        A 10 2      CE221365
BB                      3999289         F 21 72      CE264155
BB                      3999290        J 23 72      CE361351
================================================================================
Cast 1974
SB                      3970010        B 12 4        CE3A97396                    (cast 74 but stamped for 73 MY?)
SB                      3970010        F 20 4      CE431334

Table formatting is a bit misaligned, but other members please feel free to add your data to it, by hitting 'quote' and then inserting in the appropriate date order. Thanks!
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Bracket on Driver's Side Trunk Floor on: December 14, 2014, 03:51:42 PM
Thanks William, I guess it was a 69 only bracket then? Another member here very kindly sent me some photos of his bracket and it is in the exact same location, but the remains of mine appear to be welded to the trunk floor in a slightly different manner; was there more than one design of this bracket?
Interesting that the reproduction 1969 full trunk floors don't include this, and lots of restored cars I've looked at don't either - maybe because they have the repro floors??
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Service Engines (CE coded) on: December 14, 2014, 06:16:54 AM
Bryon, here's some data that I've been collecting, it's still very much a work in progress which I will add to.

BB/SB   Block Casting   Casting Date   Pad Stamp   Oil Pan Flange Stamp   Note(s)
Cast 1967
BB                      3916323        F 6 7      CE850140       T087
BB                      3916323        J 8 7      CE853643       T0107
================================================================================
Cast 1968
SB                      3914678        D 16 8      CE922528
SB                      3959512        J 10 8      CE089910
SB                      3959512        K 29 8      CE946309
================================================================================
Cast 1969
SB                      3956618        A 9 9      CE9A24288
SB                      3956618        A 30 9      CE9A32634
SB                      3970010        E 12 9      CE9A98666
BB                      3969854        F 11 9      CE973962
BB                      3969854        H 30 9      CE070400          T099                  Also first stamped T0916KE
BB                      3969854        J 14 9      CE075672
SB                      3970010        L 8 9      C15408U                         (anomoly; possibly non-factory stamp?)
================================================================================
Cast 1970
SB                      3970010        C 28 0      CE0A48264
SB                      3970010        E 23 0      CE0B00122
SB                      3970010        I 2 0      CE1A94176
SB                      3970010        L 29 0      CEA129749                    (no typo, A before 1, photo available)
================================================================================
Cast 1972
SB                      3970010        A 10 2      CE221365
BB                      3999290        J 23 72      CE361351
================================================================================
Cast 1974
SB                      3970010        F 20 4      CE431334

Table formatting is a bit misaligned, but other members please feel free to add your data to it, by hitting 'quote' and then inserting in the appropriate date order. Thanks!
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