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496  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: photos of my 69 build, on: January 24, 2014, 01:12:31 PM
We don't have salt trucks... Smiley     and on those *rare, once in 4-5 yr* days when we have ice on overpasses, etc..  they use sand (which is not 'good', but much better than salt)...
You ever seen a car parked near the beach for a period of time? That salt water mist is devastating! So not all Southern cars are well preserved time capsules. A few cars that come to mind, remind me of KERR's.
497  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 Barn Find?? on: January 24, 2014, 10:36:30 AM
Im not saying its bs or legit.  But there are certainly several things about the car that raises an eyebrow.  Its obvious things were added and changed out, freshened up etc.  Car has also been repainted or touched up.  You can see over spray or sanding dust in the trunk on the corner marker lights and wheel well humps.

There is a lot of overspray. Krylon and Earl Sheib ( would be proud!!

I want to comment on the build date, 3E. This must have been a time when parts shortages where prevalent. I say this because I, too, have a 3E car (Yellow). 1st, according to the CRG production # by month chart, the last March car was 623587. This car (Ebay) is 1576 past that #, my car is almost 5000 units past that #! This illustrates, just because your tag has a certain date, it does not always correlate with the calendar date exactly(I believe it says this in the CRG report). 2nd, the drivetrain components,their dates are very close to car's build date(I am not trying to say anything is right or wrong, just an observation). Eng= 3/28, Rear = 3/31, whereas my car's rear is 4/07!! Think about how close these components are compared to the trim tags and Vin next time you're questioning whether an axle or whatever can be that close to the build date. 3rd, and last, I wonder why sell date (7-3) is almost 3 months after build date, could have been a sales demo? Just an observation.
Oh, and one other thing, I very much dislike the "barn find "over usage/mis-usage prevalent these days. Barn find can mean many different things depending where you are from. Just down the road, in Lexington,Ky (where thoroughbreds for the derby are raised) a barn can be a multi-million dollar edifice, much nicer than the majority of homes in this country and cleaner and warmer (right now). Here, where I live in S.W. Ohio, Appalachia, tobacco growing country, a barn is more of an open air shack with weathered siding,Rock foundation, tin roof, and dirt floor and mostly open to the elements and critters. A year or so in my barn, you would be sweeping up your car with a dust pan,lol. Although, I have seen some cool stuff found around these parts, just not in the best of shape though. My point, all around the country, barn find can mean different things and conjure up different images, but barn find to me usually would indicate a pretty rough car needing rust repair (moisture), paint (droppings from birds,coons etc...), and interior (mice, mold) and all rubber dry rotted as well.
498  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69' Z/28 on eBay... What a Car! on: January 23, 2014, 07:56:28 AM
Here is a better car, IMHO.
499  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: photos of my 69 build, on: January 22, 2014, 11:19:47 AM
Maybe, your car was "that" Camaro they found in a lake, last summer, in Oklahoma,lol. Sometimes when we uncover all the damage in our project, it makes us wonder what kind of life our car has had and where it has been? I'll add, not dissing your car or anything like that, but feeling better about my car and what I am up against after looking at yours. I have a long way to go though.
500  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: photos of my 69 build, on: January 22, 2014, 09:56:03 AM
Remembered when you first posted with pics. I applaud your desire to dig under the surface and expose the butchery and make it right. I will lend moral support. Enjoy seeing your progress and with your son, that is precious. I do have a question though, In your last pic, how do you keep your fingers and finger nails sooo clean? lol, Mine have been permanently stained with dirty broken nails since I owned my Camaros.
501  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Hurst Shifter Rods BB on: January 20, 2014, 12:31:17 PM
[quote author=ko-lek-tor link=topic=11722.msg94135#msg94135 date=1389814033 wanting an opinion or confirmation of what I believe I have. Anyone want to comment based on their car or experience if I am right and have 2 sets of BB shifter/rods?
Where are all my 396-427 Big Block bretheren? If you have an original/correct car, let me know some measurements and look at the thread length too. And compare your shifter nut on back. I am 99.9% certain on my original (born with) that it is BB correct. Other shifter and rods seem identical as well, except for added thread length. Just wanting some affirmation, thanks.
502  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / 1969 Hurst Shifter Rods BB on: January 15, 2014, 02:27:13 PM
Going through Hurst Shifters today and comparing some un-identified rods with known rods and wanting an opinion or confirmation of what I believe I have. Picture of rods shows starting with top rod and every other rod (positions 1 top,3&5going down)compared with other set I have (positions 2,4&6). 1,3,5 are the original rods off my 396 car. 2,4&6 rods are another identical length and shape set which I believe are BB rods, too. The second set has more threaded area on each rod and the shifter is dated 3-69. My car is a 12B 68, shifter is dated 6-68. The length of rods are 1-2=14 15/16 in.3-4=17 11/16in. rev=9 1/8in. (give or take 1/16in on each). Shifters show back nut I believe (according to AIM)is unique to BB shifters. Closest shifter in pic is off my car, 2nd in background is 3-69 shifter. Anyone want to comment based on their car or experience if I am right and have 2 sets of BB shifter/rods? Oh yea, I did extensive search on the site before posting and could not find an answer. Only marking on rods is a "D".
503  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / might want this in database for future build on: January 12, 2014, 09:14:23 PM
I have a feeling this car will pop up for sale someday and it probably won't be pretty.
504  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Anyone on here willing to do my bodywork? on: January 09, 2014, 10:25:09 AM
I have run into a wall on my restoration and do not know where to turn. I would like to find someone willing to do the sheetmetal work and, possibly, paint if I have any money left. That is why I am turning to the guys I trust most not to screw up my car or screw me over, yes, my fellow CRG ers. I am in S.W. Ohio, near Cincy. The car is stripped to a shell. If it does not cut into funds too deeply, I would consider shipping by transport. I do have a rollback if within, say a 100 miles (don't want to take it too far). I can also get a trailer or Uhaul, possibly. PM if you can be of help and thanks from my heart.
505  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 SS RS Convertible on ebay on: January 09, 2014, 09:57:27 AM
What I find humorous:

- Restored to near perfection

That means it has a Ford "Caution Fan" sticker on the radiator shroud, lol . Don't you know your restorations D.?
506  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 396 BB Engine oil dip stick on: January 08, 2014, 08:44:36 PM
3928901 according to AIM L35 A8  Straight type
507  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Power Steering pump for a BB 396 (1969) on: January 08, 2014, 08:41:07 PM
AIM N40 A5 part # 7806370
508  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Subframe markings? on: January 08, 2014, 12:33:31 AM
What year? My 69's have them in same place. Orange is the color and a single vertical line. I remember reading about why it is there, but escapes me at the moment.
509  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Supposedly 302 Mustang 'Barn Find' on: January 07, 2014, 09:27:58 PM
Gary ,  I have to ask : Was it difficult getting your Z down the basement steps ??  Cheesy Cheesy

Smiley  Jano, as you know, if one disassembles a car down into enough small parts, nothing is difficult.. Smiley

Or..  you can build the basement, drop the cars in, then build the house around/over it??  Smiley
OR... you might have a 'drive in basement'..  as I do ..  (or sometimes, push in.. push out..  basement..)   Smiley
(the last photo is where I pushed it out one day, gave it a washing, then pushed it back in.. )  is this a 'garage find'?  *I* found it where I left it... Smiley

Not trying to hi-jack thread, but you reminded me of a car I knew of 'back in the day' around 83 or so. One of my close friends had connections with the parts manager of a local Chevy Dealer, Campbell County, Alexandria, Ky. He got me a lot of my NOS parts. Anyway, he had a complete NOS 69 Z in his basement. I think he went through the parts book everyday at lunch and ordered every part he could for the car. He had the body and everything in the basement all on shelves like a mini Chevy dealership. He got a divorce and needed to sell car. I could have bought it for I think $3000, but newly married it might as well been 3 million, I did not have the funds and I already had my cars I was working on (see new to me in 79) My buddy bought the complete DZ drivetrain including trans rear and leaf springs for I think $500 and put it in his 68 RS. I did the engine rebuild for him. Just thought I'd share about the Z in the basement.
510  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Supposedly 302 Mustang 'Barn Find' on: January 07, 2014, 09:00:39 AM
Mice anyone ? Not to mention the inside would look like the a scene from the Munsters due to spider webs. I recently bought and sold a " garage find" 68 ss elcamino. Interior gone ,I mean gone from critters. We wore respirators due to the smell while stripping out. Wiring--gone ,or certainly not safe. Tires dry rotted , aluminum wheels would not hold air due to corrosion around the beads. This was a low mileage Arizona car brought to Ohio in the early 90's that sat due to mechanical issues.    

I love good stories ! The little old lady from Pasadena's Super Stock Dodge ,that sat since her husband's death in 66' . Car would not start ,so she let it sit all these years ,come to find out her husband pulled the coil wire to prevent theft. Put in some fresh fuel ,charged the battery and fired right up ! All original ! Except for the driver's side front fender to rear quarter which was replaced. Oh and the passenger fender was replaced. I have always loved that car since I was a child, used to help Mr. So n So wax it. Being such a good friend of the family she finally decided to sell me the car this year. I am like a grandchild to her as they had no children ,and she feels very sentimental ,as do I, about the car.---Reserve set at $65K---see my other items listed under Ashyster.

Remind anyone of some listings out there?

Love the thought of classic muscle cars being found and brought back to life. Mythical. However ,as was posted, certain TV shows have really increased these "barn finds" ,which lends scrutiny to legit finds. Does make for good entertainment I guess. Street racing 1000+ hp cars on the side of the highway ,that don't break loose, building cars in 1 week ( well 300+ man hours)---anyway gotta go , time to look for Bigfoot.

 Afew comments: 1st hotrod68 said ,"that no car looks that good after 40 years without some tweaking." I'll add, same goes for most women too,LOL. Now on to Janobyte: Nothing worse than bringing a car to Ohio, IMHO. If you like to see something deteriorate quickly, bring it to the Buckeye State.  Not to mention moisture and subsequent rust/mold, oxidizing rubber and paint deteriorating from acid rain etc...but those dang rodents have ruined many a potentially nice car. Rats literally ate the plug wires off my big block car and gnawed the carpet off the bottom of the deluxe door panels. Gave a whole new meaning to "Rat Motor" see pic. And why are you making fun of my family's name, Ashyster? (just kidding,lol).
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