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496  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Pic of My new car from 1979 on: December 24, 2013, 06:09:09 PM
mid 12's
497  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: My other 2 69's on: December 24, 2013, 03:59:32 PM
Maybe kinda tough to see, but I put '70 mirrors (R&L, driver remote) on my '69 in '75. Other mods (which fortunately for the car never happened) were planned aftermarket "T" tops (the rage in mid '70's, mfg. by Hurst and others), custom grille with square headlights, black paint with gold highlights/panels; I did install an in-dash AM/FM CB, plus a column mount Sun Super tach. Removed the console, installed a Mr. Gasket Pro Shifter, recarpeted with fuzzy shag black carpet. I was proud of it, still am considering I should be shot for what I did to it, or for what I wanted to do to it - at least most of the car made it this far fairly intact.

In 1979/80, I learned what the X77 stood for on the cowl tag, so mods ceased and recovery began - still at it all these years later.

It struck me as funny that I was just sharing some pics from back in the day and the conversation turned to "mods" we did or saw. Normally, I would be embarrassed to show what my mods were going to be, but here goes with the following pics. I will remind you guys that I always appreciated originality, even when I was 18. I did not like "hacked up" cars then or now. The blue car pics are the "born with" engine with some idea where I was going with the car mods. Ended up putting the setup on the Yellow car for awhile, but now that setup is on a shelf. I kept all the original parts by the way including manifolds and air cleaner, Thank God. Will post current pics of yellow car later.
498  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: starting my resto on: December 23, 2013, 03:13:58 PM
1st thing I would recommend is getting lots of different size ziplock bags or what you prefer and storage boxes or totes to put components in and a log book to write down different aspects such as making diagrams, documenting part #'s, etc.. along with taking pictures of everything,even stuff you are not sure of their significance. Make sure they are close up, detailed pics too as to see how stuff was mounted,how it comes apart and markings and paint details. Buy an AIM and put it in the reading room (translates bathroom for me) and study it as compared to what you are dis-assembling. If you damage a bolt or anything save it as well in the baggies to compare when you replace with like kind.Save all old gaskets and weatherstrip as samples to compare against replacements. I feel a complete dis-assembly is the only way to do a quality job, but you better decide before the 1st bolt is removed if you have the fortitude and funds to see it through and this may be a long term process. The less you remove, the more compromised the quality of resto, as masking around stuff is usually harder and more detectable as amateur-ish. If you do not feel you have the stomach for this, then my advice would be to leave the car alone and keep it original refurbishing only components needed to make car function well. The next step would be to study what parts are available, their costs. My own preference would be used good parts opposed to reproduction or carefully considering the quality differences which are almost all covered here on the site in forum posts which will save time and money by doing your homework first, except for soft parts like weatherstripping were NOS or good original is hard to find and cost prohibitive for most. Be  aware that it will cost about the same whether it is a Z or a 6 cylinder with the exception of some engine components so a restoration has to be a passion with the understanding that the whole endeavor probably will cost more than what the end result will be worth.The word restoration is mis-used as it means to restore as original. Good luck.
499  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: my 1969 z28 on: December 21, 2013, 07:31:42 PM
17 yrs..  and 3000 miles?    You need to drive that car some..  Smiley  Keep it lubricated and functional....   
I can tell you what happens when they sit for 33 yrs.. Smiley
Ditto!! Mine sat waaaay too long.
500  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: My other 2 69's on: December 20, 2013, 07:46:06 PM
I always like the vintage pics....thanks

So by 79 besides the dent, they had already swapped out the drivers door mirror?  :-\Seems funny to get a new camaro now, look at the whole car and think "I gotta get rid of that mirror!" What were they thinking back then guys? I mean was it that hard to go to a chevy dealer and have him grab one off the shelf or order one? Huh I see funky antennas, mirrors, guys swapping out seats, and makes me wish I could of slapped those guys up side the head sometimes. Think of all the motor swaps that led to a real 67, 68, or 69 Z/28 turning into a orphan.... tragic!!! 
I think that is why these (Ist Gen) are such a challenge to restore and why this site exists. When explaining my restoration to a non-car person, I tell them that early Camaros are probably one of the most modified cars you will find. I maintain a couple of antique car collections for elderly friends. They don't understand why a component would be missing especially so many components. Some of their old cars still have the original air in the tires (I joke) because the type cars they own, where not messed with. So when you buy a car like the ones I maintain for those guys, you usually find them just as they came with manuals and all.
501  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / My other 2 69's on: December 20, 2013, 01:08:35 PM
Back in 79 when I bought the "flamed 396" car, I also bought the blue SS. In 85' I bought the yellow car. Interior shot is yellow car. I was 18 when pic taken. Dented door was as I bought car. I still have all 3. Just wanted to share pics and wish all a Merry Christmas!Oops! Will have to get more Yellow car pics later, file size was too big to post.
502  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Pic of My new car from 1979 on: December 20, 2013, 12:57:17 PM
Adding some new (old ) pics and better pic of first pic posted. Merry Christmas!
503  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Trim Tag on: December 12, 2013, 09:18:37 AM
I am building this car for her and there will be nothing totally correct on it .
First, My heart goes out to your daughter and you and your family for the loss's mentioned. No car will replace those precious lives we all know. As much as you would like things to be different, regarding both your daughter's situation and your trim tag, my advice, FWIW, forget about getting a TT and accept the car as it is and for what it is. If nothing is "totally correct", as you state, what does it matter? Not to get religious, but this well known prayer comes to mind,"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,

The courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference." Hope this helps you and Merry Christmas.
504  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Another one for the DB on: December 06, 2013, 12:54:21 PM
Have not really gotten to go through pics in depth, but noticed tag is Jan. Engine clearly late 1st week- early 2nd week of Dec. 68
505  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original? on: December 06, 2013, 12:38:47 PM
My 69 was ordered with 307, 4 spd, tach/guages, Unusual? Yes, I would say, but not unheard of. With so many 67-9's made almost any combination is conceivable. Sounds like a nice car and worth fixing up. Like BCMILLER said, "post some pics."
506  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1100837 Alternator Stamping - Original? on: December 05, 2013, 09:55:20 AM
Now I am not sure where I read this, but to my understanding, the machine that put the numbers on the casting rolled it on, so one could conclude if moving L. to Rt., pressure would be exerted down and also in a Rt. direction. When the pressure of the roller got to the end of the die more pressure was concentrated on less surface area resulting in the end letters, "A"&"G", being deeper and more pronounced and you can see in the pics the right side of the letters are elongated to the righthand direction showing the force of die roller. I also theorize that some characters (numbers-letters) were fixed in the die meaning bolted in so  they did not need to be changed as often. I say this because many stampings are heavier where the "837" is as opposed to the "1100" .  I believe that the 1100 was one set of "fixed" dies and the 837 was in another gang holder that could easily be swapped out. Don't beat me up, it is just  my theory based on observation, facts and what makes sense in production as I have an Aerospace machining background. Once the die was set up with the redundant information (everything except the date and the 837 or whatever last 3 numbers used), they would be shelved until needed and the rest of the data added explaining different boldness of characters. I should add the same pressure to surface  applies to the far Left characters as well. Also casting tolerances diameter and out of roundness affect clarity and depth of characters.
507  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Chrome Shifter Ball on: November 29, 2013, 07:56:50 PM
no, not for a 69. Looks Like early Chevelle or Vette.
508  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Happy Thanksgiving on: November 27, 2013, 06:02:30 PM
thanks DC,same at ya!
509  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Pic of My new car from 1979 on: November 27, 2013, 01:23:29 PM
Adding a few more pics as I get the hang of this function. One is engine compartment circa 1981, note curved neck radiator. Other, Wife (she was girlfriend at time of pic) and car in staging lane at Tri-State Drag Strip, Ross, Ohio 1981.
510  Site Comments / Discussion / Test Drive / Re: test on: November 27, 2013, 12:49:43 PM
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