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301  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: My 69 SS/RS Project started on: March 15, 2014, 03:18:46 PM

          1967                      1968                      1969
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                     Use                       Use                         Use
 Color         Code  (%)   Color          Code (%)   Color          Code   (%)
 ------------------- ----  ------------------- ----  -------------------   ---
 Tuxedo Black      A  3.0  Tuxedo Black      A  1.5  Tuxedo Black     10   2.0%
 Ermine White      C 10.0  Ermine White      C  9.0  Butternut Yellow 40   1.0
 Nantucket Blue    D  5.0  Grotto Blue       D  6.0  Dover White      50   7.5
 Deepwater Blue    E  3.5  Fathom Blue       E  1.0  Dusk Blue        51   4.0
 Marina Blue       F 10.5  Island Teal       F  2.5  Garnet Red       52   7.0
 Granada Gold      G 12.0  Ash Gold          G  9.5  Glacier Blue     53   4.0
 Mountain Green    H  3.5  Grecian Green     H  3.0  Azure Turquoise  55   2.0
 ---                       Rallye Green      J  4.5  Fathom Green     57  10.5
 Emerald Turquoise K  3.5  Tripoli Turquoise K  3.5  Frost Green      59   8.0
 Tahoe Turquoise   L  4.5  Teal Blue         L  2.0  Burnished Brown  61   2.5
 Royal Plum        M  3.0  ---                       Champagne        63   0.5
 Madeira Maroon    N  4.5  Cordovan Maroon   N  3.0  Olympic Gold     65   5.0
 ---                       Corvette Bronze   O  7.0  Burgundy         67   2.0
 ---                       Seafrost Green    P  3.0  Cortez Silver    69   7.0
 Bolero Red        R 16.5  Matador Red       R 12.0  LeMans Blue      71  11.5
 Sierra Fawn       S  2.0  ---                       Hugger Orange    72  12.0
 Capri Cream       T  4.0  Palomino Ivory    T  1.0  Daytona Yellow   76   7.0
 ---                       LeMans Blue       U 11.0  Rallye Green     79   5.0
 ---                       Sequoia Green     V  2.5
 Butternut Yellow  Y 14.0  Butternut Yellow  Y  8.0
                           British Green     Z  7.0
                                                     Two-Tone Paint        2.4 
 Special Paint     O  0.5  Special Paint     -  2.5  Special Paint     -   1.5   Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink It was right under your nose there Bullitt65 Shocked Grin Looks like 1.5% in 69
302  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: My 69 SS/RS Project started on: March 14, 2014, 05:45:27 AM
Good day all,

I would like to introduce myself and my project in that great forum.

My name is Fahad from Saudi Arabia.

My project is 69 Camaro SS/RS.

I will start my restoration process with posting.

And I am proud to be here and glad to get members advice and comments.


A big WELCOME Fahad. Glad you are here! We are "proud" that you are on this "great" site and want to learn more about you and your car. I see many things on your car that I would have questions about. Are there many Camaros in Saudi Arabia? You need a lot more pictures...so, please start get them on here. How long have you owned this car? How did you come about getting your car? What is it about Camaros that made you want to own onw? Do you have friends that have Camaros too? That orange car in your first post, who does that belong to? Welcome again.
303  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68 Z engine parts on: March 13, 2014, 10:23:15 PM
It is everything you need plus gaskets. Usually sold in kit form some savings overall on parts. You just order by bore and journal size. Since you have gaskets, I guess you can nix that.But, you may want to compare prices and it still may be cheaper. plus most places stock these over individual parts. It has been a long time since I built anything so things may be different. Last re-ring kit I bought was $50 if that is any indication.
304  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68 Z engine parts on: March 13, 2014, 09:58:13 PM
Mahle is good stuff. See if they(Summit or Jegs) can sell you a re-ring kit. You will save $$ and it will have everything needed except main bearings or Cam bearings. Mahle has a clevite 77 bearing
cracked bosses could be from a Big cam? and rockers binding(hitting )stud which will crack them.
305  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Is this tag real or fake? on: March 13, 2014, 01:55:43 PM
James I was unaware that there were 2 different head rests, when did they switch them?

Azure good eye with what you picked up, should this car have a short spoiler as well? ( if any at all)

Also looks like the hood was added on, just guessing since the wiring isn't hooked up to it.
http://www.camaros.org/headrest.shtml#1969 Here you go Bullitt65. Late November of 68. Car does not have proportioning valve under master. And distribution valve is in wrong location. I bet booster is wrong too. Like I said earlier, a lot of details are wrong and I am not a Z owner. I know my BB's better My Blue car has straight headrests, other 2 curved. Funny how a trained eye sees so much. Guess I could add missing hood side bumpers, air cleaner stud wrong. Horns wrong as is color of hood latch/hinges looks like early 2 piece kick panels.Bullitt, ask owner for VIN, bet it is pre-X code? Want me to keep looking? Love these "Correct" 100% rotiserrie resto mods on eBay. Don't get me started on the others on that site.
306  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Is this tag real or fake? on: March 13, 2014, 01:14:59 PM
Wrong headrests...straight instead of curved...too late a car for straight. Tag is fake IMO. Wrong Master cylinder and I could go on and on. Lips Sealed
307  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Cool old 69 Z/28 commercial on: March 12, 2014, 08:23:45 PM
Us H.O. guys rock! Grin Make sure Bullitt65 knows that,lol
308  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Cool old 69 Z/28 commercial on: March 12, 2014, 08:11:06 PM
What about me and SgtHawkUSMC?
309  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Owner and I believe this to be a Z (69) on: March 12, 2014, 05:44:05 PM
Am I missing something? Why do cars like this go for the prices they do? What possibly could be usable? At least this had springs and exhaust hangers. Scrap for cars, here in Ohio is about $250 a ton. A bare body like this is about 600 lbs. That comes to around $75. A guy I know, here, where I live, bought a 6cyl. coupe to make a pro-touring car. He bought a Dynacorn body and stripped this car completely including VIN. The tail panel and 1/4s where already cut off when he got the car the rest was pure rust and not one iota usable. I thought there might be something I could use for my upcoming body work, so I looked at it. It was worse than this eBay car and he told me he wanted $700 for it. Needless to say, it is still sitting at his house.
310  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Order of assembly when painting car on: March 12, 2014, 03:07:37 PM
Excuse my ignorance on this topic. I have never done this extensive paint work before. I may have read here, but worth hearing from those who have been through this. I am about to have body work done and painted if money holds out. my question: Should I have front sheetmetal hung on and painted and try and raise subframe back under car once home from the shop(I believe this is how assembly line did it)? Or, Have subframe installed and leave front sheetmetal off until all related work with front is done before installing sheetmetal? Or, should I have all areas "cut-in" and not paint car until all mechanical (engine/wiring etc..) is completed and then have body painted as a whole? Have subframe and sheetmetal installed and all painted and remove front end one home to do work on front areas(brakes/engine etc..? I want to know best and most cost effective as I don't have money to have shop do a lot of assembly although I will have them install glass and vinyl top and roofrail weatherstrip and headliner, I'm thinking at this point. I am sure body shop has an idea of how they would prefer, I just do not want to request something that is not practical or feasible.Thanks, knowledgeable CRGers.
311  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Correct Striping on: March 12, 2014, 12:07:16 PM
James,

The white stripe in your first photo appears to have been repainted, if you look just below the camaro emblem, on the spoiler, the white paint for the stripe is chipped, and there appears to be 'white paint' below it.  If this was original, wouldn't the color underneath the white stripe be the blue paint??  Or maybe what I'm seeing in the photo isn't reflective of the car itself?

To me, it looked like when the paint chipped it took both the white and the blue under it leaving the fiberglass (whiteish color) exposed. But, that is just my opinion.
312  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 45th anniversary of the first Z-28 on: March 11, 2014, 09:57:27 AM
Jon, I have been wanting to ask, are you putting that 1/4 mounted gas cap back on? Looks like you are creating the "as raced" look.
313  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Another Restamp Sold For Big Bucks on: March 10, 2014, 10:36:26 PM
what is a Cheville ?
Well, you had to ask...http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cheville also French for foot or ankle.

Back when I worked at a speed shop around 1980, and this is a true story, a fella came in wanting a part for a "Novelle". After trying to explain that there is no such animal, he insisted we look at his car to prove his ignorance. I and another co-worker went out to the parking lot and lo and behold, there it was, a Novelle! It was a Nova for sure, but someone had taken a Chevelle emblem and spliced the two together on the trunk,lol. So, there you have it...Novelle!!
314  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: CRG etiquette concerning parts on E Bay on: March 10, 2014, 08:16:02 PM
That's a little pricey. I have one that has been in my inventory since I bought my first camaro in 1975. Send me a PM, I would sell mine for half of that.
Buddy
That, my friends, is a true CRGer! Very kind gesture Buddy. I hope he takes you up on this. It is not even my car and I am excited for 69 SS X55. I hope we all can help each other get our cars finished. Thanks.
315  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 396 350hp fuel pump on: March 10, 2014, 06:29:17 PM
Dating pumps goes like this: 1965 rebuild-able pumps have a part number followed by 2 letters. 1st letter is month,2nd is year.An example would be : 4657KE (Nov. 1965) 1965 ended in E, 66=F
Crimped pumps were phased in around mid-year (June)1966. At this time the 2 letter dating preceded part#(at beginning). An example would be: GF40433 (July 1966) for 67 model year car. 2nd letter is year where: F=1966,G=67',H=68',I=69',J=70'. The months, 1st letter, are A-L=Jan-Dec. Starting in 1971 a new Julian alpha/numeric dating was used. An example :219K40956 (219th day of 1971)This would be for a 1972 car as this is late in the year, but shows that dates follow calendar and not model year. K=1971 remembering this includes 1972 models up to Dec 1971. L=72 and so-forth. Hawks pump is: 343K40727. The 343 is 343rd day of K=1971 (Dec  1971),which is late in year and considered a 1972 pump by model year production.
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