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31  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Fat & Furious - King of Camaros Episode on: February 17, 2015, 06:43:39 PM
FYI that 19N6300??  was stamped on the block along side the V1I01DZ...  No idea what the car was dated.  They made a big deal about finding a rosewood wheel and it was made a big deal and was a little over the top.  I'm sure they are good guys but I wish they would do their homework more if they are gonna say that the car had to correct and original.  The valve covers were on backwards, no air cleaner seal, alt painted, looked like water pump pulley was wrong, tailpipes hung waaaay to low..  I'm sure if I watched it over I could go on..  Maybe it's me and the average car guy loves this stuff..   Huh
How does that go...ignorance is bliss? Most of us "nuts", on here. can pick apart a car. We just know how it should be. Probably why I missed this and the plethora of these type shows. Just loses my interest.
32  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: BV Water Pump Pulley on: February 15, 2015, 12:26:43 AM
Sorry for the late entry, but I've been out of town for a couple of weeks and could not add my 2 cents -

The 2456DV pictured is off my X77, definite original, and the inner support is not swaged in place, but is spot welded as shown. This is the original finish on the pulley as well - appears to be dark grey phospate on the front side, or maybe dulled semi-flat black.

The 824BV shown is a repop. The two pulleys are different in diameter by quite a bit - no wonder the belts needed to be swapped according to My68SS -

Regards,
Steve

So this is non original?
What are you trying to say? and what does any of that have to do with a 2456? or the pic of a repop 824?
33  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: seen today on FB,,,, lookin' for a '69 really sport on: February 14, 2015, 07:13:58 AM
typo maybe? or maybe auto correct was on his comp settings...

It happens to me sometimes. Sometimes I catch it and modify my post, sometimes I don't catch until the next day, and then its to late..
Austin...It is TOO late, TOO late,lol...had to do that before it was too late.
34  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Camaro SS396 - Trim Tag Date vs. VIN Production Date on: February 13, 2015, 06:33:05 PM
12A with X codes...  

Repop tag.

But one of the experts can chime in and verify.  I am certainly not one of them.


Clicky


1969 Cowl Tag - X Codes
The Xnn codes were a mid-1969 model addition to the Fisher Body cowl tags of Norwood-built Camaros, starting with the 12B (second week of December) build week. (CRG has found 12B cars both with and without these codes. Our data for all cars in prior weeks is absent this code, and our data for all cars in weeks following contain this code.) These codes were an aid for Fisher body assembly workers to identify body trim and paint changes required for different Camaro models. The codes are divided into two groups: those with the Z21 style trim option and those without the Z21 style trim option.


From OP, "Any advice would be greatly appreciated - thank you!"
How fast can you run? 'Cause I'd get far, far away from that.
35  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: BV Water Pump Pulley on: February 13, 2015, 12:29:36 PM
What does the seller mean by "has the correct notches around it " ?
I believe the seller is referring to the "snout" area of the pulley is distorted on original 824BV pulleys caused by the reinforcement on the backside being pressed into place and leaving the snout "notched" (IIR octagonal) instead of round (cylindrical), because of 8 swedged places that distort the snout area. Not all GM pulleys have this feature, but a real 824 does and experience tells me that is about the "going" price for the real deal.
I got the pulley yesterday - and indeed, you were spot on the characteristics you described. The snout is octagonal. Still fairly round....but you can definitely see the "flats". And guess what? Having the proper pulley cured the fan belt misalignment I had with the pulley that was on it. I'm happy it wasn't because of the water pump shaft. My new problem is the incorrect pulley was a bigger diameter than the BV....and now my fan belt is too long.....no big deal, picking up a new belt today. Thanks again!
Congrats! I guess you are finding out that CRG is the real deal and guys on here know there stuff, eh? Hope you become a "regular" , here, and good luck getting that nice car sorted out.
36  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Mark IV Turns 50 on: February 13, 2015, 12:24:07 PM
Nothing beats a big block.   Cool


Amen! Give me torque or give me death! Love Big Blocks and I am partial to them, but could never dis a 302 Paul. Wink
37  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Pitting in steel wheels on: February 12, 2015, 11:08:04 PM
Thanks for the input guys. Gonna try the JB Weld Steel Stick. Read up on this stuff and it sounds like it is exactly what I need. Thanks again. Grin

Stick may work, I have used both, paste and stick. I would recommend the two tube paste form as it is more liquid and flows easier, not globbing up. You have to knead the stick pretty much and it still stays fairly solid and may crumble or not go into pitted areas as well as the paste IMO. You need to grind or sand and make a clean surface to be effective, I am sure you read. The tube form will flow and with luck, may not need to be even sanded down once cured. I used to think this stuff was a bunch of hocus pocus, like so many products, but became a believer when I repaired a Model A block that had a cracked water jacket! I even filled the pits in a master cyl. on my farm's fork lift (for safety, would not recommend this on anything that moved faster though), but it did stop leaking. I repaired my cracked C-pap too.
38  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Tires? on: February 12, 2015, 11:03:14 PM
Hey, Thanks. Yes, I have never heard GM refer to the car as anything , but a 69, but in conversation, sometimes there is some confusion, so I just wanted to clarify this.
39  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Tires? on: February 12, 2015, 08:00:04 PM

I believe the Goodyear Polyglas F70 14 is the current best available white letter tire based on correctness.  
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Polyglas? Did I miss something? I thought the concensus was that the GY Widetread was correct and the PolyG was not available till late year or something like that. Sorry if I am mistaken because I really respect James' knowledge.
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Option PL4 fiberglass belted F70 x 14 raised white letter tires became available to order as of the April 1969 revision. Figuring a 4 week order lead time, about 70% of production had already been built. At this time the only '69 Camaro with factory docs showing PL4 has a Firestone spare. Some may have been built with Goodyear Polyglas RWL tires but no documented examples are known.

There were two versions of the Goodyear WTGT; with and without the size in raised white letter.

nanna nanna, nah, na ! I am not losing my mind! William, please clarify a couple of details, please. When you state 70% production, are you meaning ALL 1969 and early 70 69 type Camaros or just the 69 ending in June 69? Same question regarding only example you site, is this only considering a true 69 or including the 70's production as well? When did the phase out occur of the Widetread, as well?
40  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Pitting in steel wheels on: February 12, 2015, 04:50:13 PM
JB Weld
X2
41  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Tires? on: February 12, 2015, 04:47:12 PM


I believe the Goodyear Polyglas F70 14 is the current best available white letter tire based on correctness.   
Polyglas? Did I miss something? I thought the concensus was that the GY Widetread was correct and the PolyG was not available till late year or something like that. Sorry if I am mistaken because I really respect James' knowledge.
42  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: BV Water Pump Pulley on: February 11, 2015, 08:50:20 PM
Another set of good pics: http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/584200/gonew/1/3932458-da-deep-groove-smog-pu#UNREAD
43  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: BV Water Pump Pulley on: February 11, 2015, 06:17:07 PM
Bentley can you tell m if this smog pump  pulley is original or a repop and how can one tell ?
Please, I am no expert. Sure miss Ed. They made that pulley for a few years and it has some variations. I only know what to look for on a 69 specific application. Here is a link to real 69. They are some good pics and description by Chuck. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/581853/458

One of the "telltale" ID's is the stamping mark that encircles the part #. Based on that, it looks as yours is for another year or it is a repop. I am leaning repop.
44  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 camaro muncie transmission for sale? on: February 11, 2015, 05:32:58 PM
Probably heard the owner coming and had to leave the handle/knob.
45  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Master Cylinder Resleeving on: February 11, 2015, 12:05:40 PM
Some rebuilders use stainless steel sleeves, others use brass. What are the pros and cons of each or is there no difference?

Either is fine, IMO. You just want a good true non pitted surface and either will work. I give the nod to stainless as it is harder and will not easily nick, but it is not like you will be abusing the M.C., so either one is OK. A side note, I believe the stainless sleeve can be thinner (have never compared) so less material removed from your cylinder. Again, a moot point as long as work is done correctly, IE: machining and alignment and pressing, either will give you a new surface that won't corrode or pit or wear out.
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