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286  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: Original 67-69 Camaro driveshafts - information requested about your car on: March 18, 2014, 09:04:11 PM
Year of car 1969
Norwood  car
Month and week of vehicle assembly 12B
Engine 396
Transmission M20
Driveshaft length (measured center of u joint to center of u joint)49.56 in.
Driveshaft casting number ?
Type of attachment to pinion yoke. strap and bolts method.
Code stamped on front of passenger side axle tube. BS
Paint stripes –none left
Position of the u-joint flanges= "clocked" about 30 degrees off from each other
I have an extra driveshaft from a friends 69 396. He parted it out back around 1990 and gave me some parts. It is the same as my original. No stripes visible on either. MAy show up evidence if I clean them (sand) Will get to other 2 cars as time permits.
287  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Finally! A Camaro that makes mine look good! on: March 18, 2014, 08:35:47 PM
 Lips Sealed I do some goodies-rear end, springs, disc subframe,2 piece rotors,ralley wheel, booster...hmmm Roll Eyes
288  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Muncie cleaning on: March 18, 2014, 08:31:53 PM
Bill, I had a gnarly looking smog pump that was stained and had that white chalky corroded appearance. I used a solution that is made to clean a/c A coils. It is an alkali, I believe. Will have to look at it tomorrow and see what the ingredient is. It foams up and has to be rinsed thoroughly, but it did the pump justice IMO. I don't have any before pics. I get a chance, I will take a pic. Just an idea.
289  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Finally! A Camaro that makes mine look good! on: March 18, 2014, 08:17:52 PM
 Shocked  Shocked I look at my car and think to myself,man, I should have not let it go for so long. How am I going to ever get it fixed back up? But, this eBay car gives me hope!
290  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Camaro Left Side Ajax Mirror on: March 17, 2014, 08:12:25 AM
GM must have had a good handle on dated mirror supplies and knew how many to order for what...a production week, or month maybe? And if there was an issue at DMI, Ajax's were ordered with the dates for production up to when DMI fixed whatever issue they were having. Is this how it went?
My thought would be that GM just had two suppliers so they didn’t stop production due to being out of required part like a mirror. I am sure the parts were dated coded to track any manufacturing defects like the glass falling out because of bad glue, not that the dated part had to go on a vehicle assembled within a certain time frame. My C AX 9 mirror is on a 5A car.


This supplier issue got me thinking. First, I am sure when GM has a contract with a supplier it is because GM felt the supplier could meet their demand, so something must have happened that prevented the supplier from fulfilling its contract. Could have been a labor issue, fire, or some equipment failure or downstream supplier (supplier to DMI). Ajax may have been another manufacturer supplier, like for Ford or Chrysler and GM may have had contracts that provided a backup plan, IE, different supplier in case of a mentioned unforeseen delay. Or, DMI may have sub-contracted Ajax (more likely), if they could not fulfill their contract.  Makes sense to me. I am sure Ajax was not just sitting around with their collective feet on a desk waiting to get back up orders from DMI or GM.
Second, and this is just my experience in manufacturing, is that GM had a standing quantity contract based on engineering calculations of productions in many product lines. I don't think someone got on the phone at, say, Norwood and called DMI to order more mirrors. I am sure it is more a case that once a contract was made, a supplier made X amount of an item per month whether needed or not and more of an automatic shipment schedule that sent out the item on a weekly or monthly schedule.
So, the Ajax mirror, may have been subcontracted through DMI when DMI realized it could not meet its contract demand because of mentioned unforeseen circumstances.
291  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: widow felts nos vs. A.Mrkt. on: March 16, 2014, 01:31:12 PM
I just want all of you who have replied to know that I appreciate this advice and information. Thanks, Bentley.
292  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: My 69 SS/RS Project started on: March 15, 2014, 03:18:46 PM

          1967                      1968                      1969
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                     Use                       Use                         Use
 Color         Code  (%)   Color          Code (%)   Color          Code   (%)
 ------------------- ----  ------------------- ----  -------------------   ---
 Tuxedo Black      A  3.0  Tuxedo Black      A  1.5  Tuxedo Black     10   2.0%
 Ermine White      C 10.0  Ermine White      C  9.0  Butternut Yellow 40   1.0
 Nantucket Blue    D  5.0  Grotto Blue       D  6.0  Dover White      50   7.5
 Deepwater Blue    E  3.5  Fathom Blue       E  1.0  Dusk Blue        51   4.0
 Marina Blue       F 10.5  Island Teal       F  2.5  Garnet Red       52   7.0
 Granada Gold      G 12.0  Ash Gold          G  9.5  Glacier Blue     53   4.0
 Mountain Green    H  3.5  Grecian Green     H  3.0  Azure Turquoise  55   2.0
 ---                       Rallye Green      J  4.5  Fathom Green     57  10.5
 Emerald Turquoise K  3.5  Tripoli Turquoise K  3.5  Frost Green      59   8.0
 Tahoe Turquoise   L  4.5  Teal Blue         L  2.0  Burnished Brown  61   2.5
 Royal Plum        M  3.0  ---                       Champagne        63   0.5
 Madeira Maroon    N  4.5  Cordovan Maroon   N  3.0  Olympic Gold     65   5.0
 ---                       Corvette Bronze   O  7.0  Burgundy         67   2.0
 ---                       Seafrost Green    P  3.0  Cortez Silver    69   7.0
 Bolero Red        R 16.5  Matador Red       R 12.0  LeMans Blue      71  11.5
 Sierra Fawn       S  2.0  ---                       Hugger Orange    72  12.0
 Capri Cream       T  4.0  Palomino Ivory    T  1.0  Daytona Yellow   76   7.0
 ---                       LeMans Blue       U 11.0  Rallye Green     79   5.0
 ---                       Sequoia Green     V  2.5
 Butternut Yellow  Y 14.0  Butternut Yellow  Y  8.0
                           British Green     Z  7.0
                                                     Two-Tone Paint        2.4 
 Special Paint     O  0.5  Special Paint     -  2.5  Special Paint     -   1.5   Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink It was right under your nose there Bullitt65 Shocked Grin Looks like 1.5% in 69
293  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: My 69 SS/RS Project started on: March 14, 2014, 05:45:27 AM
Good day all,

I would like to introduce myself and my project in that great forum.

My name is Fahad from Saudi Arabia.

My project is 69 Camaro SS/RS.

I will start my restoration process with posting.

And I am proud to be here and glad to get members advice and comments.

A big WELCOME Fahad. Glad you are here! We are "proud" that you are on this "great" site and want to learn more about you and your car. I see many things on your car that I would have questions about. Are there many Camaros in Saudi Arabia? You need a lot more, please start get them on here. How long have you owned this car? How did you come about getting your car? What is it about Camaros that made you want to own onw? Do you have friends that have Camaros too? That orange car in your first post, who does that belong to? Welcome again.
294  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68 Z engine parts on: March 13, 2014, 10:23:15 PM
It is everything you need plus gaskets. Usually sold in kit form some savings overall on parts. You just order by bore and journal size. Since you have gaskets, I guess you can nix that.But, you may want to compare prices and it still may be cheaper. plus most places stock these over individual parts. It has been a long time since I built anything so things may be different. Last re-ring kit I bought was $50 if that is any indication.
295  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 68 Z engine parts on: March 13, 2014, 09:58:13 PM
Mahle is good stuff. See if they(Summit or Jegs) can sell you a re-ring kit. You will save $$ and it will have everything needed except main bearings or Cam bearings. Mahle has a clevite 77 bearing
cracked bosses could be from a Big cam? and rockers binding(hitting )stud which will crack them.
296  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Is this tag real or fake? on: March 13, 2014, 01:55:43 PM
James I was unaware that there were 2 different head rests, when did they switch them?

Azure good eye with what you picked up, should this car have a short spoiler as well? ( if any at all)

Also looks like the hood was added on, just guessing since the wiring isn't hooked up to it. Here you go Bullitt65. Late November of 68. Car does not have proportioning valve under master. And distribution valve is in wrong location. I bet booster is wrong too. Like I said earlier, a lot of details are wrong and I am not a Z owner. I know my BB's better My Blue car has straight headrests, other 2 curved. Funny how a trained eye sees so much. Guess I could add missing hood side bumpers, air cleaner stud wrong. Horns wrong as is color of hood latch/hinges looks like early 2 piece kick panels.Bullitt, ask owner for VIN, bet it is pre-X code? Want me to keep looking? Love these "Correct" 100% rotiserrie resto mods on eBay. Don't get me started on the others on that site.
297  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Is this tag real or fake? on: March 13, 2014, 01:14:59 PM
Wrong headrests...straight instead of curved...too late a car for straight. Tag is fake IMO. Wrong Master cylinder and I could go on and on. Lips Sealed
298  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Cool old 69 Z/28 commercial on: March 12, 2014, 08:23:45 PM
Us H.O. guys rock! Grin Make sure Bullitt65 knows that,lol
299  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Cool old 69 Z/28 commercial on: March 12, 2014, 08:11:06 PM
What about me and SgtHawkUSMC?
300  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Owner and I believe this to be a Z (69) on: March 12, 2014, 05:44:05 PM
Am I missing something? Why do cars like this go for the prices they do? What possibly could be usable? At least this had springs and exhaust hangers. Scrap for cars, here in Ohio is about $250 a ton. A bare body like this is about 600 lbs. That comes to around $75. A guy I know, here, where I live, bought a 6cyl. coupe to make a pro-touring car. He bought a Dynacorn body and stripped this car completely including VIN. The tail panel and 1/4s where already cut off when he got the car the rest was pure rust and not one iota usable. I thought there might be something I could use for my upcoming body work, so I looked at it. It was worse than this eBay car and he told me he wanted $700 for it. Needless to say, it is still sitting at his house.
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