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271  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 Z28, One Owner Carolina Blue Crossram JL8 on: May 19, 2014, 12:06:57 PM
Back in the good old days of street racing in New York, that meant you were ready for a race! But I agree with John, the rod is missing.
Interesting, I thought it was an Ohio thing. BITD All us hot rod guys would have the reverse lights wired to a secret toggle under the dash and flip it on as a sign a race is on or desired. We would also flip on the reverses when pulling into the Big Boy Drive-In to look cool and to put others on notice we were looking for a race.
272  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: power steering hose brace on 69 on: May 19, 2014, 11:57:59 AM
That's a Full size 68-70 passenger car bracket.
Thanks, It looked "factory", but I knew it was not Camaro correct.
273  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Now that you know what dealer originally sold your car.... on: May 18, 2014, 10:26:23 PM
68L30...You just wanted to show off your cool car's resting spot. And I'll add, it's worth showing off,real cool!
274  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / power steering hose brace on 69 on: May 18, 2014, 09:59:30 PM
Has anyone ever seen a power steering hose brace on the A arm like this? It is on a 69 I saw.
275  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: rear end for my car dating info help experts please on: May 18, 2014, 04:36:07 PM
Bringing this back to the top as I want to share some new information. I still assert, by what has been shared on this site, that the TT build date loosely follow the calendar, yet castings/stampings are exact. If you recall the OP asked if a 9/16 date axle build would work with his 9c build date car? I responded that I believe it would (I have a very close component dated car).
Fast forward. A discussion between JKZ27, via PM, and myself ensued were we discussed 12B build and VIN vs. X code start up. I cited a couple of cars I know of or found to show the VIN vs.TT vs. Date of Production.
The point I'll make is, at 912 cars per day, and if my car was on the last possible day of 12B (Friday,13th), then there would be 8-9 more production days in the year (excluding Christmas eve/day and N.Y. eve).  or 9 X 912 = 8208, 8 X 912 = 7296. a week of production = 5 x 912 = 4560, How could a 12C car be built 6000 past mine (over a week)?
JKZ27's 12B Nor          N558XXX  Early in week, no X-code
My car is a 12B Nor      N563XXX  almost 5000 later than JKZ27's w/X-Code
a friend's SS is 12C Nor N569XXX About 6000 after my car
An Ebay car is 12D Nor N570XXX Less than a 1000 after my friends car and less than 500 after published E.O.M. figure (almost 7300 after my car)
CRGs published info of end of Mo. Prod. Figure for Dec. 68 Nor. = 569987 . Here, clearly the 12D car's # is after the last Dec. 68 #. The 12C is within a few hundred of end of month.
I theorize that end of Month, and year in this case, may not have counted the last week of year, Dec 25-31 ( actually 22-28). A lot of plants shut down for maintenance during this time. Start of 4th week was probably only one day (Dec.31st) and the Quantity produced was put on the next month's production total (Jan 69).
276  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Dealer versus Customer Order on: May 17, 2014, 09:18:08 PM
Considering reply #3 (JohnZ) I believe 'specialty' models, like a Z, many were ordered by a customer to be specific or individualized to be a personal statement of the buyer as they were more of an enthusiast. On the other spectrum, a frugal buyer may want a sparse optioned car like the 68 RS 6 cylinder a recent member has and also were customer ordered. I was only seven in 69 so I cannot personally testify what exactly happened, but the evidence of "odd" cars and combinations attest that Camaros probably had more customer ordered cars than say, a buyer of a four door family car. All three of my cars have options that I consider odd and suspect are customer ordered. I'm sure the dealer knew certain colors and combinations that would sell and ordered such. Did GM influence dealer options and push some options? I am not refuting the 80-90%, just saying that percentage is probably on the high end for a car like a Camaro opposed to an Impala. I think it is the type buyer these cars attracted that reflect a more individualized ordering segment. Of my three, My Blue SS has special paint code, not sure a dealer would do this. My Yellow car is a 307, M20, U17,N44 car and odd. I have a hard time believing it was a dealer order, but could be. My SS 396 car has several low numbered options like remote mirror and rear defrost. It could be a dealer order, not sure. I guessed as close to Christmas as it was built, that it was ordered for a Christmas present. Regardless, I always like to check out a cars options that I know how the car came originally and wonder why it is as it is.
277  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Difference between the L34 and L35 in 68 on: May 16, 2014, 10:00:07 PM
I believe the engines are the same except for camshafts.

X2, One had a high lift hydraulic L34, other low lift L35. both cams anemic in regards to performance.IMO Everything else the same.
278  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: No fire to the plugs on: May 16, 2014, 01:16:10 PM
Purchased a 69Z-has not been cranked in at least 12 years...  Motor turns but not firing.  Pulled plug and watched as somebody turned motor and no spark on plug.  Changed coil.  No fire.  Next step I assume is inside distributor?  What direction do I take?   Thanks

I can almost guarantee it is the points. Sitting that long the points get oxidized and corroded. With Key in off position, Remove distributor cap, 2 push down releases, take off rotor (2 screws) exposing points below. Take a small file (nail file will work) and put it between the contacts (apply a little pressure by pushing on the movable arm with your finger or screw driver) . Now, many manuals say NOT to file points, but they are not dealing with old, sitting idle stuff, so ignore that advice. After you file points, bump starter to close gap. Run (drag) a business card through the contacts a few times. This insures they are clean with no residue. Turn key on and crank engine watching for a spark jumping across points and looking for contact movement in and out. You may not see a visible spark easily, but with contact closed (key in on or run position)you can take a screw dr. and gently pry the contact arm and you should see a spark. Put everything back together and crank  checking for spark at plug. A cheap inline spark tester from harbor freight is good for this task. To check point gap is adequate, bump starter till points are in open position. Use a matchbook cover and set gap to cover thickness. A young fella may not have access to a dwell meter and this is a farmer's way and darn close.
279  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy to forum with Old first Gen on: May 15, 2014, 05:36:24 PM
Sounds like you know what you have...I still want it...slobber,slobber,lol
280  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy to forum with Old first Gen on: May 15, 2014, 05:14:43 PM
Are you sure that is a 427? and not an LS 6 or 7 454?
281  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoration help on: May 15, 2014, 02:22:03 PM
If you see anything incorrect in the photos I appreciate your feedback.

Yea, George, I see's not at my place!!! Your work is outstanding. I will scrutinize the pics closer though. Good luck and I want more pics! Nice!
282  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Master cylinder cover on: May 15, 2014, 01:13:17 PM
I, too, have read about more than one cover for 69. I cannot prove that my cap is, in fact, "born with", but I have every reason to believe it is, as the orig. master cylinder is on the car (off now) 12B Nor. Bill, here goes:
Will also comment on the cap you picture Bill, I understand that there was no DOT specification in 69, so that cap would be wrong,IMO.
283  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy to forum with Old first Gen on: May 15, 2014, 12:33:12 PM
No question is a dumb one.

First-avnut, can I have that engine? Love 427s ,lol, sounds like a "killer"...and, By the tach (5500), sounds like originally a SS/RS low horse BB car?

Second- Dumb Questions, hotrod68? How about, "I got an original 69Z without an engine, will a Ford 302 fit"? (no lie, Iv'e seen that asked)
my own question, I'm thinking about painting my house...what do you all think of a Hugger Orange house? sounds good, but DW will probably say its a dumb question.LMAO
284  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy to forum with Old first Gen on: May 14, 2014, 09:14:18 PM
Welcome avnut!! A lot of long time owners here and some young guns too...all are welcome. Look forward to your posts and pics when you figure that out. We are all behind you and many have long time restos in progress, so you are not alone, but you have already probably been reading those posts. Hoping your time money and energy hold out.
285  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: pretty cool on: May 14, 2014, 05:43:16 PM
10K, Wow! His memory may have embellished some of the facts. Would not be the first time I have heard a story strrreettccchheedd over A stout performer nonetheless. I know those short stroke SB's can really wail...those were the days.
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