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196  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Z28 rear tailpipe hangers on: May 30, 2014, 03:23:47 PM
Both sides? Which type exhaust, chambered or transverse?
197  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Warning-Caveat Emptor-Scammers Abound on: May 30, 2014, 06:24:52 AM
There was quite a lenghthy post about this car back a few months ago: . Now being scammed on eBay so watch out,
FYI here is original add:
198  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Zeroing in on X code start up on: May 28, 2014, 11:05:25 PM
My Vin 562xxx has the x code.
12A N553XXX no "X" code.

No dealer info either, darn it -


interesting,but I think you are missing the point. If it is before my example 559498, it will NOT have an X code (like yours) and if it is after 560573, it WILL,(like yours). It is the period in between I am focusing on 559498-560573
199  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Zeroing in on X code start up on: May 28, 2014, 10:47:21 PM
KurtS tells me he has seen a vin before 560000 with X code, so, back to the drawing board. You bring up a great point Gary. And that is when would this be implemented. Beggining of week? Shift? or by Vin? Shift and/or week would make more sense, I agree. I thought JohnZ said 920 cars per day. Will have to check these facts.
200  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Zeroing in on X code start up on: May 28, 2014, 09:49:02 PM
A couple of weeks ago, a topic regarding rear end dates was posted. This resulted in a few PM's by JKZ27 & myself discussing when the changeover to X codes occurred. We both have 12B Nor. cars. After observing several 12B tags with vins and doing my own research over some time now, I'll add, I will or can almost with certainty determine that the X codes started with the Vin # 560000 or very close. Certainly more data will narrow this down and confirm or at least conclude and then be held as fact, which is what WE are all about. My following examples to bear this out are:  This car is 532 Vins before the 560000 and has no X code and a post about an X55 which is 1026 after this 560000 vin. Now, I know that is over 1500 cars between these examples and as more is found I will keep records. I have never seen an example of any X code with a vin starting with 55xxxx to date. This is another, 573 after 56xxxx with X code...Now within a 1000 vins 500 on each side of 56xxxx.
201  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Original GOODYEAR E70-15 Wide Tread GT, Date Code? on: May 28, 2014, 07:03:41 AM
The more I look at the chart, the more confused it becomes. I have a G-Y Polyglass F70-14. The numbers go like this: MDLD  Y4A173 . I do believe it was an aftermarket replacement tire and not an OEM tire because it has "blem" stamped in the sidewall.  I also have an old BFG Tiger Paw and a couple of "stones" Super Sports I would like IDed as well if there is info.
202  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: TRIALS AND TRIBULATION OF FINDING ORIGINAL DRIVE TRAIN OF 69 CAMARO L 78 on: May 26, 2014, 04:07:55 PM
Vince, FOUND your car on EBAY TODAY!!!! Here it is and good luck. I wish I could buy it myself.
203  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Are There Any Big Block Headers that clear Backdrive Linkage? on: May 21, 2014, 08:41:39 PM
Asking for a guy who has an original X22 car and wants to run headers. I told him that he probably will not be able to use his backdrive linkage. Is this still the case or are there headers that work with the linkage? I am hoping that there are not as he said he would sell me the linkage. Fingers crossed. It is a 4 speed car with a Big Block.
204  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 Z28, One Owner Carolina Blue Crossram JL8 on: May 19, 2014, 12:06:57 PM
Back in the good old days of street racing in New York, that meant you were ready for a race! But I agree with John, the rod is missing.
Interesting, I thought it was an Ohio thing. BITD All us hot rod guys would have the reverse lights wired to a secret toggle under the dash and flip it on as a sign a race is on or desired. We would also flip on the reverses when pulling into the Big Boy Drive-In to look cool and to put others on notice we were looking for a race.
205  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: power steering hose brace on 69 on: May 19, 2014, 11:57:59 AM
That's a Full size 68-70 passenger car bracket.
Thanks, It looked "factory", but I knew it was not Camaro correct.
206  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Now that you know what dealer originally sold your car.... on: May 18, 2014, 10:26:23 PM
68L30...You just wanted to show off your cool car's resting spot. And I'll add, it's worth showing off,real cool!
207  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / power steering hose brace on 69 on: May 18, 2014, 09:59:30 PM
Has anyone ever seen a power steering hose brace on the A arm like this? It is on a 69 I saw.
208  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: rear end for my car dating info help experts please on: May 18, 2014, 04:36:07 PM
Bringing this back to the top as I want to share some new information. I still assert, by what has been shared on this site, that the TT build date loosely follow the calendar, yet castings/stampings are exact. If you recall the OP asked if a 9/16 date axle build would work with his 9c build date car? I responded that I believe it would (I have a very close component dated car).
Fast forward. A discussion between JKZ27, via PM, and myself ensued were we discussed 12B build and VIN vs. X code start up. I cited a couple of cars I know of or found to show the VIN vs.TT vs. Date of Production.
The point I'll make is, at 912 cars per day, and if my car was on the last possible day of 12B (Friday,13th), then there would be 8-9 more production days in the year (excluding Christmas eve/day and N.Y. eve).  or 9 X 912 = 8208, 8 X 912 = 7296. a week of production = 5 x 912 = 4560, How could a 12C car be built 6000 past mine (over a week)?
JKZ27's 12B Nor          N558XXX  Early in week, no X-code
My car is a 12B Nor      N563XXX  almost 5000 later than JKZ27's w/X-Code
a friend's SS is 12C Nor N569XXX About 6000 after my car
An Ebay car is 12D Nor N570XXX Less than a 1000 after my friends car and less than 500 after published E.O.M. figure (almost 7300 after my car)
CRGs published info of end of Mo. Prod. Figure for Dec. 68 Nor. = 569987 . Here, clearly the 12D car's # is after the last Dec. 68 #. The 12C is within a few hundred of end of month.
I theorize that end of Month, and year in this case, may not have counted the last week of year, Dec 25-31 ( actually 22-28). A lot of plants shut down for maintenance during this time. Start of 4th week was probably only one day (Dec.31st) and the Quantity produced was put on the next month's production total (Jan 69).
209  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Dealer versus Customer Order on: May 17, 2014, 09:18:08 PM
Considering reply #3 (JohnZ) I believe 'specialty' models, like a Z, many were ordered by a customer to be specific or individualized to be a personal statement of the buyer as they were more of an enthusiast. On the other spectrum, a frugal buyer may want a sparse optioned car like the 68 RS 6 cylinder a recent member has and also were customer ordered. I was only seven in 69 so I cannot personally testify what exactly happened, but the evidence of "odd" cars and combinations attest that Camaros probably had more customer ordered cars than say, a buyer of a four door family car. All three of my cars have options that I consider odd and suspect are customer ordered. I'm sure the dealer knew certain colors and combinations that would sell and ordered such. Did GM influence dealer options and push some options? I am not refuting the 80-90%, just saying that percentage is probably on the high end for a car like a Camaro opposed to an Impala. I think it is the type buyer these cars attracted that reflect a more individualized ordering segment. Of my three, My Blue SS has special paint code, not sure a dealer would do this. My Yellow car is a 307, M20, U17,N44 car and odd. I have a hard time believing it was a dealer order, but could be. My SS 396 car has several low numbered options like remote mirror and rear defrost. It could be a dealer order, not sure. I guessed as close to Christmas as it was built, that it was ordered for a Christmas present. Regardless, I always like to check out a cars options that I know how the car came originally and wonder why it is as it is.
210  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Difference between the L34 and L35 in 68 on: May 16, 2014, 10:00:07 PM
I believe the engines are the same except for camshafts.

X2, One had a high lift hydraulic L34, other low lift L35. both cams anemic in regards to performance.IMO Everything else the same.
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