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Garage Talk / “Camarocards” Bob Cardillo
« on: July 27, 2020, 04:55:10 PM »
Just learned that this member, Bob, passed away yesterday. Condolences to his family.
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1969 - Orphans / Muncie M20 N580424
« on: March 15, 2020, 02:12:10 AM »
Seen lying on a garage floor in South Shore, KY. (Near Glockner Chevy, Portsmouth,Oh)
19N580424
P9T17A
19N580424
P9T17A
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Garage Talk / BITD or If You Cant Make Progress, You Can Look Back
« on: March 05, 2020, 12:23:55 AM »
Don't you just love old pics of member's cars? A window into the past? I do. My FIL passed away this past Sunday. He was a good man and I was proud of his accomplishments. He was a smart book learned and had practical knowledge and common sense, something progressively being bred out of the human race, it seems? We have been going through old pics of ours and my in-laws for the services this Saturday. I had completely forgot my wife, girlfriend at the time, took pictures of me and, then, I of her, with my car. I am also including pics of my car given to me by the second owner of my car. Sorry, they are distorted from leaving in a picture album. I really wanted to get my own pics off these pics, but after a year now, and he always has had an excuse why I cant come over, I have decided just to include. There is one pic when the car was still orange. Note remote mirror. My pictures are from 1980-81, last two previous owner's pics are before 1977
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Garage Talk / Need someone that logs onto TC to help me
« on: February 05, 2020, 11:59:38 PM »
Hey, need someone that gets on TC site. I can’t remember my login info. I just never warmed up to that site. There is a guy that is trying to contact me from that site and I would like someone to either get this guy’s alternative contact or give him my contact info ( which I can provide in a pm).
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1969 - Orphans / M21 19N560207 on FB Marketplace -in an inquiry
« on: January 31, 2020, 12:22:34 AM »
I saw this 12B tranny and thought I’d post. Good luck.
FB Marketplace Brad Bennett writes,”... can you please tell me what mine came out of. P9T05B. The Vin number is 19N560207-any help would be awesome. Thanks
FB Marketplace Brad Bennett writes,”... can you please tell me what mine came out of. P9T05B. The Vin number is 19N560207-any help would be awesome. Thanks
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Originality / Late 69 (post August) muncie side cover
« on: December 30, 2019, 01:18:06 AM »
I cannot find anything addressing this question: I have an August 69 Muncie M20. It was originally installed in a Camaro. The side cover is a 3952648 used on 70 production. Where the solenoid would be located on the shift fork boss, this has that part in the casting, but it is not machined (drilled, tapped or milled).
My question: do late production 69 transmissions use this side cover or has it been replaced?
My question: do late production 69 transmissions use this side cover or has it been replaced?
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1969 - Orphans / N673827 M20 on FB Marketplace
« on: December 22, 2019, 03:52:42 AM »
Has tag 3946797 still attached, so 3.55 or lower gear car, meaning probably a hi-po
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1967 - Orphans / Z28 124377N241000 your POP is on FB
« on: November 26, 2019, 11:08:26 PM »
Fella just posted a POP on FB of a 67 Z. He said it was in some other car he bought. It would be a rare car as it is AA (Tuxedo black) paint car. He is willing to reunite it with its rightful owner.
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1969 - Orphans / 19N55410(?) your M20 Muncie is for sale on FB
« on: November 06, 2019, 05:14:45 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2192229400840046?view=permalink&id=2636449836417998
That link did not seem to open. The guy has a web page : www.billjamesmusclefactory.com
That link did not seem to open. The guy has a web page : www.billjamesmusclefactory.com
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Decoding/Numbers / Cylinder Head Casting Date M97?? What Gives?
« on: October 07, 2019, 02:08:59 PM »
Matching head is dated Sept (I) 1968. Never seen an M. But seems to me I have read something about an M casting date. I just cannot find it in a search.
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Mild Modifications / Drum to disc conversion-pedal stop
« on: August 08, 2019, 12:51:39 PM »
I am needing a definitive answer, please. Doing a J52 conversion. Using all GM pieces. I installed the striker on the pedal correctly. Adjusted the switch. The pedal does not rest on the rubber bumper any longer. It is about 1/4” away. Thought to myself , I’ll adjust the rod / clevis. Then I read this from a “Camaros.net” post, Nov. 30th 2015, quoting respected Camaro tweaker, David Pozzi, saying, “The photo above is mine. My camaro was converted from manual brakes to power brakes. The mechanic failed to remove the bumper. Normal power brakes do not use the rubber bumper, the power booster controls pedal movement to the rear.” Replying to pic of up under a dash.
The OP was wanting to know if the brake light striker became the “stop”?
When I dis assembled my 69 SS, I noted that there was no rubber stop on the brake pedal.
I am hoping someone, here, can elaborate on the following:
1) should the rubber stop not be there, meaning should I remove it?
2) if it should not, as Pozzi and my own car’s evidence suggest, then how is the pedal height set?
Basically, should I leave my pedal height were it is ( about 1/4” away from rubber stop)? Pedal seems to have adequate height? Maybe a few pics from original cars would help. Just trying to get it right.
It seems to me, if I did adjust the pedal to touch the stop, I would not have enough clearance to mount the brake switch.
Note the setup being used was a complete untouched J52 removed from an operable donor car that was converted to a pro touring.
The OP was wanting to know if the brake light striker became the “stop”?
When I dis assembled my 69 SS, I noted that there was no rubber stop on the brake pedal.
I am hoping someone, here, can elaborate on the following:
1) should the rubber stop not be there, meaning should I remove it?
2) if it should not, as Pozzi and my own car’s evidence suggest, then how is the pedal height set?
Basically, should I leave my pedal height were it is ( about 1/4” away from rubber stop)? Pedal seems to have adequate height? Maybe a few pics from original cars would help. Just trying to get it right.
It seems to me, if I did adjust the pedal to touch the stop, I would not have enough clearance to mount the brake switch.
Note the setup being used was a complete untouched J52 removed from an operable donor car that was converted to a pro touring.
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Garage Talk / A Most Amazing Thing...
« on: June 07, 2019, 03:17:47 AM »
...I have owned my 69 for 40 years and just learned the whole owner history!! Many older members may recall, I have a Hugger Orange SS/RS 396, 4 speed. When I bought the car, it was somewhat “clapped” out. The engine was gone. It was painted black with heavy gold flake and flames on the doghouse terminating half way down the doors. The tail panel and grille had “cobwebbing”. The original steering wheel was gone and a foam Superior 12” in its place. The original wheels and radio were MIA and three holes were cut in the plastic of the assist handle above the ashtray and 3 SW gauges installed. Homemade slapper bars and shackles installed and the black vinyl top removed. Otherwise, the car was in pretty decent original shape. I gave $400. Actually, I was already working on another 69 I bought, an SS 350 and did not have the money to buy this 396 car. Since I could not afford it, I told my best friend , we were both 18, about this car. He bought it and I was there when he did. We got back in his car, he looks over at me and says, “pay me back when you get the money.”. I did.
8 years ago, I decided that I had the time, energy and money to attempt a restoration on this longtime family member. It never occurred to me till I got involved with this site in 2013 to acquire documentation or learn owner history. I really had no leads and did not know where or how I would find information about this car. I got advice from a member to place an ad on Craigslist. The wild paint scheme made the car unique enough that surely someone would recognize the car. Sure enough, the very next day, I get a call from a guy who claimed to have owned the car. He only owned the car for about 6 months. He traded his Sb Nova and boot to his H. School Senior buddy for this car. Upon graduating he traded, late that summer, for a motorcycle. That buyer that traded the M.C. Was who I got the car from. So, to recap, the H.S. Buddy had it the 1st half of his Senior year, then traded to owner 2 who traded his Nova and later traded to owner 3 for a M.C. And I bought from owner 3. But this only covered about a year’s time. The Senior year of 78-79 to the early fall of 79. That 1st of those 3 owners could not recall who he got the car from. The only thing he could recall was the guy lived on a local street call Melody lane. That is where the trail ran cold. I thought about looking up court deed records and attempting contact of home owners from around that 79 timeframe. I never did this.
Fast forward. By chance, in March of this year, I was out at a Cracker Barrel with the wife and mother-in-law. There was this older gent leaving about the time we were finished and leaving. I noticed he had a sweatshirt from a local large car show. This prompted a discussion about cars. I mentioned that I owned a 69 Camaro. He exclaimed that he had once owned a 69 Camaro, an Orange SS. I mentioned that was what my car was and would be once restored. I said it had a black flamed paint job when I got it. He said that he painted his car black with flames. Now THAT caught my attention. After comparing a few notes, I was convinced that I had found a previous owner. I asked for his phone number and other contact information. I asked if he lived close by? He told me that he has lived on Melody lane since 1964. He went on to tell me he was the second owner. He and the original owner , both, worked at the local Ford plant. This guy is the guy who sold the car to who I referred to as owner 1 out of the 3 high school age owners just before I acquired this car. This guy bought the car from his co worker friend in 1973. His friend bought the car new from Central Motor in Hamilton, Ohio. Afterwards, he was drafted to serve in Viet Nam. He parked the car in his dad’s garage. It had 22k miles on it when sold to owner 2 on Melody lane. That second owner I met told me he painted the car black with flames. He also told me the car was ordered with Rally wheels and he still had them off this car under his work bench. He claims that he has the “build sheet”, but has not found it yet. I’m hopeful he can produce that. He says he does not have the POP. He told me that the car had a standard black steering wheel and he made the traction bars. I have a few pictures of the car now from back in the day. I am wanting to meet up and get better copies of his pictures, but he has been slow in setting up a meeting. The OO is deceased, but I have reached out to his family on FB, with no response. More to come.
8 years ago, I decided that I had the time, energy and money to attempt a restoration on this longtime family member. It never occurred to me till I got involved with this site in 2013 to acquire documentation or learn owner history. I really had no leads and did not know where or how I would find information about this car. I got advice from a member to place an ad on Craigslist. The wild paint scheme made the car unique enough that surely someone would recognize the car. Sure enough, the very next day, I get a call from a guy who claimed to have owned the car. He only owned the car for about 6 months. He traded his Sb Nova and boot to his H. School Senior buddy for this car. Upon graduating he traded, late that summer, for a motorcycle. That buyer that traded the M.C. Was who I got the car from. So, to recap, the H.S. Buddy had it the 1st half of his Senior year, then traded to owner 2 who traded his Nova and later traded to owner 3 for a M.C. And I bought from owner 3. But this only covered about a year’s time. The Senior year of 78-79 to the early fall of 79. That 1st of those 3 owners could not recall who he got the car from. The only thing he could recall was the guy lived on a local street call Melody lane. That is where the trail ran cold. I thought about looking up court deed records and attempting contact of home owners from around that 79 timeframe. I never did this.
Fast forward. By chance, in March of this year, I was out at a Cracker Barrel with the wife and mother-in-law. There was this older gent leaving about the time we were finished and leaving. I noticed he had a sweatshirt from a local large car show. This prompted a discussion about cars. I mentioned that I owned a 69 Camaro. He exclaimed that he had once owned a 69 Camaro, an Orange SS. I mentioned that was what my car was and would be once restored. I said it had a black flamed paint job when I got it. He said that he painted his car black with flames. Now THAT caught my attention. After comparing a few notes, I was convinced that I had found a previous owner. I asked for his phone number and other contact information. I asked if he lived close by? He told me that he has lived on Melody lane since 1964. He went on to tell me he was the second owner. He and the original owner , both, worked at the local Ford plant. This guy is the guy who sold the car to who I referred to as owner 1 out of the 3 high school age owners just before I acquired this car. This guy bought the car from his co worker friend in 1973. His friend bought the car new from Central Motor in Hamilton, Ohio. Afterwards, he was drafted to serve in Viet Nam. He parked the car in his dad’s garage. It had 22k miles on it when sold to owner 2 on Melody lane. That second owner I met told me he painted the car black with flames. He also told me the car was ordered with Rally wheels and he still had them off this car under his work bench. He claims that he has the “build sheet”, but has not found it yet. I’m hopeful he can produce that. He says he does not have the POP. He told me that the car had a standard black steering wheel and he made the traction bars. I have a few pictures of the car now from back in the day. I am wanting to meet up and get better copies of his pictures, but he has been slow in setting up a meeting. The OO is deceased, but I have reached out to his family on FB, with no response. More to come.
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Restoration / 1969 rear side marker lights
« on: April 19, 2019, 01:24:52 AM »
On the rear side marker lights, is there a gasket on the outer side under the chrome bezel? And, a foam gasket on the inside? Anyone have a picture of the assembly apart showing the order of assembly, like an exploded diagram?