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31  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Eaton Fan Clutch, but is it right? on: July 12, 2013, 04:59:33 PM
This is the fan and clutch. The name EATON is stamped into the metal, but the ink stamps are painted over. if they were there at all.



I think this may be original, but without the ink stamps, is there any other way to know for sure?

BTW, I called Dan, real nice fellow. Price is $200 plus $20 for return shipping.
32  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Eaton Fan Clutch, but is it right? on: July 12, 2013, 02:46:15 PM
I am having my engine rebuilt and the mechanic said that the oil leaked out of the fan clutch while the fan was sitting out. He said it must be replaced now.  Cry

My car is perhaps 60-80% original. I am trying not to reduce that number any further. So I checked CRG and saw the photos of the original Eaton fan clutchs, comparing them to mine. Someone at some time painted mine black, covering any potential stamps. However, the name "Eaton" is stamped into the metal. It looks just like the CRG images, minus the finish and ink stamps.

Is there another way to know if this is original other than ink stamps? Should there be a stamped in part number? I understand that they can be rebuilt, but the names I saw referenced were posted years ago. I am not sure what the best way to proceed is.


33  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Z/28 Original Glass Questions on: October 01, 2012, 12:33:43 PM
Thanks for the help anyway. Still looking for an example. Here's my backlight glass.



I believe it is the same for the windshield, except the "AS-2" rating would be "AS-1" instead. Not sure about the thickness code. (M20.6)
34  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Z/28 Original Glass Questions on: September 27, 2012, 06:44:40 PM
LOS or NOR car?
Glass is glass, they would have mixed them on the production line. So your WS possibly/probably was LOF.

PPG just was the main supplier to Lordstorn. LOF supplied NOR.

Norwood car. The date correct glass in the car is PPG.
35  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Z/28 Original Glass Questions on: September 23, 2012, 06:58:37 PM
lol. Thanks Skunk. It's not surprising that I am having trouble finding markings on glass from 43 years ago. Probably not many of those windshields around anymore, especially PPG. I'm hoping to find a Firebird owner somewhere with a good sample. PPG was standard on FBs, with some LOF, vs Camaros which were primarily LOF with some PPG.
36  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: My '69 04C Z/28 has rear antenna and spoiler. What's up? on: September 20, 2012, 02:35:15 PM
 Grin How about the antenna cable I just found hanging free there out of that hole? LOL!

So, now I am thinking the rear antenna is not correct, and the front fender is not original either? I wonder why someone would want to move the antenna, unless the body parts they used for a repair were from a rear antenna car, and just ran a new antenna?

Funny that I never noticed that antenna cable hanging there. Newbs... Roll Eyes
37  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Z/28 Original Glass Questions on: September 20, 2012, 12:36:33 PM
That is very tempting. The tinted is much cheaper than clear.

Does anyone has an example/photo of 1969 PPG front glass markings? All I've been able to find is LOF.
38  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / My '69 04C Z/28 has rear antenna and spoiler. What's up? on: September 20, 2012, 11:25:42 AM
As I understand it, the D80 spoiler became standard on all Z28s by the time my 04C was built. I read in the CRG guide the following:

"The rear antenna option, U73, was not available from the factory with either of the AM/FM radios (U69/U79) or the D80 spoiler. However, the rear antenna was often installed by the dealer, even with these other options".

I'd like to be able to determine is this could be the case, or if the antenna was installed later in the life of the car. I do not believe that the passenger side quarter the anntenna is on is original to the car, so that may have something to do with the situation. Any suggestions on how to determine if this is a correct install or an error made sometime during the life of the car?

-D
39  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Sound bites of stock '69 Z28 exhaust systems on: September 20, 2012, 07:02:13 AM
One of my favorite experiences in rolling iinto a cruise-in or local car show and having some dude chuckle and sarcastically say "I thought you said that thing was all original, what kind of exhaust is that, then?"

Stock. heh

40  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Horn GM Numbers on: September 20, 2012, 06:57:59 AM
I found a set of correctly dated originals on Ebay that were in rough shape and not working. I sent them to Gary at www.classiccarhorns.com and when I got them back I was floored at how great they looked, worked, & sounded. If you have your originals, send them to him, you will not be disappointed. Perfectly restored originals are worth far more than repops, IMHO.

-D
41  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Z/28 Original Glass Questions on: September 20, 2012, 06:26:01 AM
doomer>>>>>>>
  What area do you live in?   I can verify psautoglass.com I got a Dated Windshield there for my early '67 Coupe, it is right on.  Guys name is Mike Wimmer he is very knowledgeable on these date codes.  Located in Janesville, WI. just south of Madison.  I live right in the area, was able to save shipping.   My car also had all original glass, but windshield was  cracked.

I'm in the SC lowcountry. I read a few posts that mention psautoglass and actually gave them a call. Unfortunately, after shipping and installation, the cost was very high compared to a reputable installer I found locally, who can obtain good glass and have the correct date code added for me. The only problem is that I do not have a good example of the original markings for PPG untinted windshield glass. I'm really hoping someone here who has such can provide a photo for me. The supplier needs it to make sure the markings he does are accurate.

I never expected clear glass to be so much higher than tinted. If you asked me a week ago, I would have guesses tinted would be the one that was $100-$200 higher. Seems very little clear glass has been reproduced over the years.

42  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Z/28 Original Glass Questions on: September 19, 2012, 08:23:11 PM
Definately a good read' but the photos section needs some ppg photos. I've tried to take some pictures but the lighting makes it very tough.
43  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Z/28 Original Glass Questions on: September 19, 2012, 06:33:07 PM
Thanks. After closer inspection, I found that my other windows appear original PPG, all dated close to each other. *Driver door 26 19, Passenger Door 26 29, Passenger rear 27 29, Backlight 26 19) but the driver rear side window is the lone tinted LOF dated TV. It is my guess that the windshield was replaced in the early 70s, and the drivers rear side was replace by glass from a salvage yard at some point.

So now I think my best option is a repop windshield that is date coded to match, and later a new drivers rear side that is untinted and date matched.
44  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Z/28 Original Glass Questions on: September 19, 2012, 04:21:39 PM
Interesting enough, I have found the markings on my other windows. All glass is PPG except one (drivers rear side window) which is tinted LOF. So I am going to stick to the original clear glass.

Does anyone here have original PPG untinted front glass in a 69? I'd love to see a picture of the date code/markings. CRGs gallery does not have a photo sample of this type.
45  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / 1969 Z/28 Original Glass Questions on: September 19, 2012, 01:58:42 PM
Who would have thought a little rock could start so much research?

I took a rock into my windshield recently, and started checking into replacing the glass. Of course, the glass does not appear original. It is 1971 date coded replacement PPG glass. It reads:

        DUPLATE
PPG LAMINATED
     SAFETY FLOAT
    AS1 M25 25 101
           DOT 18

My other glass does not appear to have markings, except one side window, which says:

           SOFT-RAY
SAFETY  L   FLOW-LITE
               O
AS-2           F          TV
      SOLID TEMPERED
          DOT 15 M75


The problem is that the rear side glass is dated TV (AUG 1969). My car is an 04C car! I'm beginning to think that no glass is original. I've not noticed the mix of tinted and clear until now. I thought that non-A/C cars shipped with clear glass. However, isn't tinted glass an option that a Z/28 may have had?

Since clear glass is much more expensive than tinted, should I just begin the process of going all tinted by replacing the windshield with tinted glass?

Thoughts?

D


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