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61  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Are There Any "Off Limit" Areas in Your Restoration? on: February 24, 2014, 11:45:36 AM
It can only be original once and I've finally admitted that to myself... mine is getting a new floor pan and full quarters will replace the 80% quarters put on back in the 80s. It will never be a surivivor again because nature wasn't stopped a long time ago. The only things now that I don't want touched are the X66 crayon mark and the trim tag. Everything else I want blasted, prepped, primed and painted as correctly as I can afford. I only want to do this once and I don't want to fool myself into thinking that original is better than protected from future rust/rot.
62  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 Barn Find?? on: February 21, 2014, 10:36:47 AM
A lot of scammers are now trying to come off as being military to add credibility to their scam. I was playing with a scumbag selling a John Deere farm tractor who claimed to be a LtCol in the Corps. I could tell right off they were full of it. Man I wish I could have met them in person... Couldn't have afforded the trip to Nigeria though lol
63  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Nagging questions about parts and restoration direction on: February 14, 2014, 10:49:32 AM
1. In your case, having a NOM, I would mix the NOS and repro. The motor probably affects the value more than not going after all the missing NOS parts you don't have. If the parts you don't have are crazy expensive or hard to find, I'd go repro for what you don't have probably and seeing how you already have some of the NOS parts you've completed the hard part for them. Acquiring them. The more NOS or original the better. It depends on how far you're going with the resto and what the end purpose is. NOM isn't the end to a car or it's value. Does it hurt the value? Of course to most. For you, if you're keeping it, it just means if someone looks at the stamp pad, they'll see a different number there. Does it really change the value to you? Are you really worried about someone moving your alternator to see the stamp pad?

2. Used parts. 50% of new for me as a general guide. $34 or $90 part and can't be proven beyond a doubt? It's the $34 part.

3. Tough one. I think to some it will really matter if the 1/4s are NOS or not. Prove they are w/o a receipt after they're installed and painted properly?!? Unless you have a chinese fender that's obvious or 1/4 that was installed poorly, I don't see it affecting the value unless you have a $100k+ car. I agree with your opinion on not putting chinese parts on our cars. Like you, there will be very few things that crossed the ocean going on my car. I think the value is more dependant on how the parts were installed and the quality of work.

64  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum on: February 14, 2014, 08:50:08 AM
 Some cars will likely require entire body replacement to repair.  Mechanical Assembly restores the vehicles in the GM Heritage Collection and GMs historic concept cars, so they know how to resurrect the dead so to speak.[/quote]

I know it's an old debate, but at what point is it not the same car and can you still call it the 1 millionth for instance? Where is the "heart" of the car. The drive train? Maybe. A completely rebodied car to me can be a nice car, but it isn't the same car as before. It's a new one.
65  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum on: February 13, 2014, 01:51:09 PM
Are we sure this is legit? It really looks like one of my sons threw a couple Matchboxes in a sandbox hole... The more I see the pics, the more sick I get. I saw a story where a museum rep said they might add the cars to a survivor exhibit that shows cars that survived tragic events like this. Consipiriacy theories anyone? Big marketing gimmick to get people to the museum?
No, it's REAL..   TOO real...  still an on-going situation being reported on all over the country..  CNN  ..  USA Today...  etc..
I was just kidding around Gary lol
66  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Sinkhole in the Corvette Museum on: February 13, 2014, 12:14:23 PM
Are we sure this is legit? It really looks like one of my sons threw a couple Matchboxes in a sandbox hole... The more I see the pics, the more sick I get. I saw a story where a museum rep said they might add the cars to a survivor exhibit that shows cars that survived tragic events like this. Consipiriacy theories anyone? Big marketing gimmick to get people to the museum?
67  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Identifying Original Console Gauges on: February 07, 2014, 08:40:54 AM
Looks like SgtHawks and Gary may have different faces, possibly changed vendors, since they are late production vs my early car.
My guess is just different lighting, cameras and maybe how many UV rays they've been subjected to over the years. I think mine look a lot more like yours in person, but I'd have to check. I can't remember for sure.
68  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Identifying Original Console Gauges on: February 05, 2014, 05:14:26 PM
Here are a few pics of mine if they help:





69  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Identifying Original Console Gauges on: February 05, 2014, 08:58:36 AM
That's interesting how different Gary's NOS gauges are from the originals. Just a quick look and I see originals weren't as crisp and the needles on the OE gauges are pretty different also. Mine are originals as well. I wish they weren't packed away for the move or I'd snap a pic for you also Darrell. I'll take a look on my computer when I get home. I think I have some pics of the console and gauges before I removed it saved.
70  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Now this is a REAL barn find on: February 01, 2014, 09:31:31 AM
I'm with you on keeping it a survivor. It looks like it was pretty clean in the later pictures. It can only be a survivor once, but either way, it's going to be beautiful when it's finished.
71  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Pic of My new car from 1979 on: February 01, 2014, 09:27:21 AM
So where are you with your resto now? I think I saw a pic of it stripped down like mine. Are you going back to original?
72  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles on: January 30, 2014, 03:11:07 PM
Nope..   Gary's IS a C rear end..  although the C is partially obscured by an 'impact' wtih a rock or something in the past..?
(Bryan and Kurt finally convinced me there was a 'C' out there in front of the BU..)

see image here..     http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10375.0;attach=10540;image
Gotcha. I think I can barely see it now. That makes sense.
73  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original Hurst Shifter or Not on: January 30, 2014, 03:09:07 PM
That's
Another one to add to the mix for you... Jan 69. Not original to my car though. Recognize it Gary? lol

Smiley  Is that the one I traded you a year or so ago?   I bought that unit in Atlanta at a Classic Chevy Meet in the late '70's or early '80's.. and I didn't know the code to determine date at the time I traded it to you..   that's been a later point of knowledge for me (learned here on CRG a few months ago.. Smiley

Did you ever find someone to trade you the BB rods for the SB rods that were with it?
That's the one Gary. I haven't tried trading or selling the rods yet. I just put them away for a later date when I come across someone that might be interested in them.
74  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New CRG poster 69 SS396 L34 X66 on: January 30, 2014, 03:06:34 PM
Welcome! Hugger O. rules especially in Big Block form! Nice car! drooling!
Nothing for you to drool over. Other than yours being an SS/RS, I think ours are twins right down to the M/T valve covers!
75  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Hurst Shifter Rods BB on: January 30, 2014, 03:04:09 PM
If he's interested, I'd be very interested in some kind of a trade. They haven't changed since you took those pictures.
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