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211  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New COPO Testing on: December 28, 2011, 09:05:30 AM
Very cool video, John thanks for posting the run times. Best run was a 9.69 at 140, very respectable. 

I agree and from a factory produced vehicle. I bet if it comes available to the public it will not be cheap.
212  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Engine Detailing "Tricks"? on: December 27, 2011, 06:57:57 PM
Great infomation in this thread thanks for posting and I will save it for future reference.
213  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Help and advice prior to purchase? on: December 27, 2011, 06:25:20 PM
Have you heard back from Jerry?

Did you call the phone number at the bottom of the link Paul posted (Reply 1)? He'll be back on a regular schedule after the 1st...

I did not call yet. I sent an introductory email since he does not know me. I also wanted you guys to take a look a that engine pad photo before I called the number.
214  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Help and advice prior to purchase? on: December 27, 2011, 05:53:33 PM
This car also appears to be heavily optioned. From what I can see by the pics...clock, rosewood steering wheel, gauge pkg, delux interior, rs/ss pkg, vinyl top, and what really catches my eyes are the SS wheels and the AM/FM radio (I think its amfm). It will be interesting to see if these are all original components.

What else am I missing?

Here's the list of all the options, price, and how many were produced...http://www.camaros.org/pdf/options.pdf

If everything checks out you might have to dig pretty deep.  Wink


I almost forgot to mention because I was focused on other areas of the car but I did confirm the dual exhaust. The doubler plate is on the rear drivers side frame rail. Indicating RPO N10
215  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Help and advice prior to purchase? on: December 27, 2011, 04:45:35 PM
Of course. I understood what you meant. Have you heard back from Jerry or Ed yet?
216  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Help and advice prior to purchase? on: December 27, 2011, 04:38:20 PM
Great thanks. I was 99% sure after seeing it for myself yesterday. But I was certainly worried about that last 1%.  Cheesy
217  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Help and advice prior to purchase? on: December 27, 2011, 04:30:51 PM
The consignor was able to take some clearer photos of the VIN 19N547348 on the engine pad. I know some are hard to read due to the generator, but with it being on consignment they are not willing to let me take it apart. So the attached photos will have to due unless or until I can have Jerry or Ed do a complete due diligence. I welcome your feedback to based on information at hand to this point.

I know the 3 and 8 in 547348 are worn and hard to see but they are there and you can just make them out in the last photo

Mickey
218  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Help and advice prior to purchase? on: December 27, 2011, 12:26:55 PM
It has certainly been fun so far. It is like being a detective try to find facts and figures, what is right and what is not. Then if your reseach is correct then it is llike finding a treasure. I am an engineer by trade, so a technical subject such as this suits my personality.

I already know there is an added aftermarket A/C that is ok it is much needed here in FL to take it out for a drive in the middle of summer. That is ok because I know. I just want to know what the car is and what it is not.

I certainly hope it is one of the original L34's

In addition if the car is in fact authentic, the other half of the fun is doing the work bringing it back to life.
219  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Help and advice prior to purchase? on: December 27, 2011, 10:31:57 AM
I would think that would be the case with cars that had higher production numbers that the dates would be closer together. But could it be possible as you said earlier Marty that only 2000 of the L34 options were produced. As a result could the engine build date be earlier waiting for the order/body to go to assembly?
220  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Help and advice prior to purchase? on: December 26, 2011, 10:45:12 PM
Thanks Marty. I found out my camera was set for far away shots not close up  Embarrassed, but I do not know if another trip is possible. I have to return to work tomorrow, so I am hoping the consignor can send me a clear photo. I have not heard back from Jerry yet.
221  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Cool Christmas gift on: December 26, 2011, 07:41:32 PM
If it is restored it may be worth something to the COPO, Yenko or ZL-1 clone makers.
222  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Help and advice prior to purchase? on: December 26, 2011, 07:35:40 PM

As far as I can tell the TH400 looks promising as well. Just need a date?


Sure hope it all pans out. That is one heck of a car. Only ~2000 ’69 L34’s built!

Engine:  T 08 21 JI 
            T= Tonawanda Engine Plant                               
       0821= Aug 21
           JI= L34

Axle: BI 11 15 G 1
       BI= 2.73 Ratio
   1115=  Nov. 15
        G= Detroit Gear & Axle Plant
        1=  Shift 1

That is the same info that I got. I was hoping for a lower gear ratio with posi, but it is what it is.                                                                                             
                                                                                               

My understanding based on the information in the CRG is the 69 and 316 on the trans tag is a Julian calendar date. I do not know what this means, maybe some here can decode that for me?


One of 2000 Hmmmm maybe I should just go get it now Smiley

Engine and axle number are the same as I got. The I in front of the JI threw me at first until I read that the date codes used I and 1 interchangably.
223  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Help and advice prior to purchase? on: December 26, 2011, 07:30:04 PM
PS I thought you guys might get a laugh at me trying to photograph the VIN location on the TH400 with the car on a lift.  Grin I had the camera all the way on the bottom side of the floor pan looking down on the top of the trans pan mounting flange trying to get the camera far enough away to focus.
224  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Help and advice prior to purchase? on: December 26, 2011, 07:24:01 PM
Thanks Marty.

I don't know what happened in the photos. Not sure if it was my LED flash light or the camera being too close to focus, or both. But like I said in person the numbers matched and looked exactly like yours. I feel confident that the car is authentic numbers wise. At least I do not think that issue is in question.

However, after having the opportunity to see the car on a lift and then drive. I am wondering if the car is going to need some mechanical work in the near future. The underside of the car had 40+ years of oil, grease, and road grime with oil leaking down the back side of the pan. This would indicate to me at least a tear down of the engine to the short block for full gasket replacements. During the test drive (It did run and drive) but it felt sluggish and loose. When I got into the go pedal it bogged and just did not pull at all again indicating a need of an engine rebuild. I did not have the tools to do a compression test and or leak down. As for the loose part either the steering needs to be adjusted or rebuilt or it is time for new ball joints, shocks, springs etc.. Still not a deal killer but the seller is asking in what my opinion would be a car that needs no work at all.

Maybe I could ask the consignor if they could get a better picture? Anyway like I said earlier in person the engine pad looks good so at least I am 99% confident that the car is authentic just in need of some TLC under the hood. With that information in mind, what would be your opinion on the value of the car? I am trying to decide where it is priced.

Like I said earlier is there anyone in FL that would be interested in checking it out it would be a great help.

225  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Help and advice prior to purchase? on: December 26, 2011, 05:27:27 PM
Before you pay someone to inspect the car, see if you can find a person who knows these cars that will give it a preliminary look. Then fork over cash to someone else if you choose. There are people in this hobby who have owned, built and scrapped countless of them over the decades.

Do you know of anyone in FL?
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