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811  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stahl Step Headers ('69 Z28) on: July 30, 2013, 05:39:32 PM
Honestly I am not aware of any dealers for Stahl.  Due to the fact that they custom build headers as well.  Thats not to say there isnt dealers; Im just not aware of any.  If I were a header company I would want the end user dealing directly with me to make sure the header fit the application and setup due to so many options and combinations.  Most people do not realize just how complicated headers can become with other aftermarket parts and components.  If you have aftermarket heads, mid plates and/or running a non conventional transmission then usually dealing with a company that is willing to build a header or knows their headers will work with certain components then that is your best bet to reduce the frustration factor.  I have built a few custom headers and I applaud the guys that have this ability cause I have seen some headers that are pure works of art.  Not to mention the fact that they also produce horsepower.


I personally would only run stainless if I were buying headers if I was planning on keeping the car for a long period of time.  They will last a very long time.  Only thing that really fatigues on stainless are the welded  areas but that is usually on headers that are supporting a turbo.  Most other applications they will last longer than the engine.  lol

What is your overall expectations with the car?  What do you want to ultimately do with it?  Street/strip or pure strip?
812  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stahl Step Headers ('69 Z28) on: July 30, 2013, 06:14:04 AM
well I am actually inquiring for another vehicle, I have a 64 C/10 with a 327 that is a little over 400 hp, I have some headman headers on it right now but they are only 1 1/2 primary tubes. The motor revs up a little higher than 8k, so similar to the 302. It would be nice to pick up a set of those headers for it. The price on the website is like $1200 though.....a bit much for me. the hedman were a little under $400.


 I'm guess that 400hp is flywheel? A 1 5/8" primary tube header would work fine with your setup.  5-10 peak hp is not going to be noticed unless you have access to a chassis dyno, your car is consistent at the track or a very fine tuned buttometer..  As for the reverse lockout I do not know of any long tube header where it would be able to be used.  Just my experience & couple pennies worth..
813  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Very original (unrestored) '69 X44 on ebay on: July 29, 2013, 06:25:47 AM
There is nothing wrong with a 307/power glide..  ;-)

My 69 was the same setup.  Bought it from a 90 yr old woman in 1989..  It has/had ps, pb, AC, console & floor shifter.  Of course I've changed it to a 350, 4 speed, 12 bolt..  Lol.   Oh it too had the DX1 stripe as well.  It's been a great little grandma grocery getter car.  ;-)
814  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: bumper jack screwdriver on: July 29, 2013, 06:19:20 AM
Not sure if you meant for this to be in the "Test Drive" section.


I have wondered this as well.  I know my uncles 69 Chevelle came with a very short Phillips #2 with a wooden handle..  I wish I had got pics of it last week but didn't..  I have this screwdriver but have not idea of its origin.  It is wooden but there isn't any print or stampings anywhere on it.  Also I would have thought the screwdriver would have been a flathead..


815  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner on: July 29, 2013, 06:04:44 AM
Sport thanks for the info.  To make sure I understand yours has the straight print on the lid instructions.?.  Added below.
LID Instructions

67 - LOS -  04B -  Black    - curved print
67 - NOR - 05B -  Black    - curved print
68 - NOR - 03D - Chrome - curved print
68 - LOS  - 05D - Chrome - straight print
68 - NOR - 06A - Chrome - straight print
69 - NOR - 01C - Chrome - straight print
816  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner on: July 28, 2013, 12:17:16 PM
Ed,
Thanks for the clarification.


Others out there care to add to the list?


LID Instructions

67 - LOS -  04B -  Black    - curved print
67 - NOR - 05B -  Black    - curved print
68 - NOR - 03D - Chrome - curved print
68 - LOS  - 05D - Chrome - straight print
69 - NOR - 01C - Chrome - straight print
817  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner on: July 28, 2013, 10:26:47 AM
Interesting to see a black lid with chrome valve covers.  I always thought all lids were chrome on Camaros with open element.?.  

Mike did you say your 04B car has the same script as your 05B car?  Also is it a black lid also?

Ed is your car LOS?

Ok how about we do this to maybe keep a log.

LID Instructions

67 - LOS - 04B - ? - ?
67 - NOR - 05B - Black - curved print
68 - NOR - 03D - Chrome - curved print
68 - ? - 05D - Chrome - straight print
69 - NOR - 01C - Chrome - straight print
 
818  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner on: July 27, 2013, 04:20:07 PM
Thanks Ed & Steve.  I'd like to see an earlier build '68 or a 67 if possible.  Also the 4 dimples on the F A I've noticed are not on the reproduction ones.  Guessing they were from an assembly process of installing it onto the base.?.  Also there is a "GM" stamped on the one I posted.  Is this consistent with the others?
819  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner on: July 27, 2013, 07:04:18 AM
68 03D L78














820  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner on: July 27, 2013, 01:11:41 AM
Maybe I should have included open element Z28 cars as well.. 
821  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner on: July 27, 2013, 12:26:41 AM
I have a '69 big block that was built in Nov. of '68 if that helps. I can take some pics and post when I get a chance.

Yes please do post some pics.




Ed,
This is very interesting..  What build date is your L89 car? Also the hose on the base going to the flame arrestor...  Is it original as well?  Also does anyone know of how many variations of the printing on the underside of the lid?  I'm wondering if this is a way to track the lids by year or even months..??..

822  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Headers on: July 26, 2013, 08:07:42 PM
Jon,
they also call out for spread port heads..  You can make them work on stock heads with adapters but not intended for that & it could cause some fitment issues with the steering box & steering components.
823  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: I know its not a Camaro but.... on: July 26, 2013, 08:01:19 PM
That wagon is extremely cool..
824  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stahl Step Headers ('69 Z28) on: July 26, 2013, 03:25:29 PM
My experiences the 1 5/8 on the stepped allows for better low end torque and once you get into the rpms the 1 3/4 allows the exhaust to move out of the header.  A full 1 3/4 you loose the low end and with the 1 5/8 you leave a little on the table in the upper rpms.  So a good stepped header is a great street car header.
825  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner on: July 26, 2013, 02:42:35 PM
'68 but I didnt think there was a difference on the BB open element air cleaner..   Huh
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