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766  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: First time Camaro gen 1 buyer on: September 18, 2013, 08:49:56 AM
RED FLAG..

That vin does not line up with the build date...  I would ask the seller to get pictures of the hidden vins..
767  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Leaf spring removal on: September 18, 2013, 08:42:41 AM
You have to forgive me cause its been a few years since I pulled the leafs out of one of my cars.

Are you saying the 3 bolts that hold the front leaf spring bracket are stripped or are the nuts that are on the inside broken their spot welds?  Arent there pockets in and around that area that would allow you to get to the once welded nuts?  If not and the nuts are spinning I would cut the heads of the bolts off and get the leaf & bracket out of the way to get to the nuts.   
768  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: First time Camaro gen 1 buyer on: September 18, 2013, 08:30:18 AM
The tag looks beat up but seems fine.  I would need to see the vin to know if it falls in line with the tag.


Here is a list of things I would check.  

1.  Make sure the hidden vin matches the vin on the dash. -  http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#VIN
2.  Look for all the areas of rust (since this was a vinyl top car definitely look around the front and back glass), floor pans, trunk area, rear quarter areas etc.
3.  If you are concerned if the engine is original to the car or not. - http://www.camaros.org/drivetrain.shtml#PadStamps
4.  Ditto on the transmission. - http://www.camaros.org/drivetrain.shtml#trans
5.  Ditto on the rearend - http://www.camaros.org/drivetrain.shtml#axle


Honestly, if you just want a good car that is a great driver that you want to enjoy then I would just verify #1 & 2.  These cars were meant to be driven regardless the rarity of them.  When I finish my 3 they all will be driven as much as possible (weather permitting).  If I were you I would spend as much time as possible reading over the info on this site before making a purchase.  If you do not find the answers you are looking for just ask.  Someone here will help you.

http://www.camaros.org


FWIW:
I would at least have the seller send as many pics as they could of the undercarriage, hidden vins, and whatever else you wanted to view before wasting time to look at a car..  
769  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Z/28 Power Brake Hose Bracket - Original? on: September 18, 2013, 07:09:26 AM
The bracket labeled 'AAC' appears correct, matches what is on my car....

Ditto


The bracket in the photos Danny posted seems too short.

Ditto
770  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: First time Camaro gen 1 buyer on: September 18, 2013, 07:06:36 AM
Welcome to the site and congrats on potentially becoming a 1st gen owner.  To answer your question; its kinda hard to tell you much about the car from just the cowl tag minus the paint color & interior.  What is it exactly that you are wanting to know? 

771  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1968 - Orphans / Re: 8N437338 - Protect-O-Plate on: September 17, 2013, 08:15:11 PM
I see a trend here..  lol
772  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69 CONVERT. TRIM TAG REAL OR ? on: September 13, 2013, 11:54:56 AM
Im going against the grain.  Its a real tag.  Obviously the rivets are terrible & not sure if its correct to the car; need more info to know for sure. 

Repro tag.

I see my oversight now..  I suck..   Tongue
773  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69 CONVERT. TRIM TAG REAL OR ? on: September 12, 2013, 11:19:54 AM
Im going against the grain.  Its a real tag.  Obviously the rivets are terrible & not sure if its correct to the car; need more info to know for sure. 
774  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: LOS Special Paint Cowl Tag on: September 06, 2013, 08:54:29 PM
I thought the orange from the factory was from the GM truck fleet line .?.  It's that what Dana used?
775  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 1969 Amp gauge problem on: September 06, 2013, 08:20:38 PM
Sounds like a neg & pos are swapped.  Or a ground not connected.
776  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 68 NOR build sheet on: September 06, 2013, 11:00:01 AM
I have not heard of any being found.  If there were to be found I would look under all seats between  the springs or even under the carpet. 

Off topic sort of but went to a local pull-a-part & they had a 68 barracuda & under the back seat was the build sheet..  So you never know.
777  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: real tag? on: September 06, 2013, 10:49:51 AM
I give the seller credit for discolsing it is a restamped motor and his careful use of words like 'correct' vs. original.
The tag looks like it was stamped on the same machine for not only the vehicle specific codes, but the 'blank' tag info as well (ST TR....)
It is a nice looking car though. Is the drive shaft optional?  Wink

Mike

Yeah I didn't read any of the salesman lingo just glanced over the pics once at work.  Good eye on the missing driveshaft.


12A build week and an X33 trim code (plus a bunch of other tag issues) equal a repro tag.
so what was the first known week for X codes? (jerrys book says the first week of december of 68)
778  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: real tag? on: September 06, 2013, 07:07:55 AM
05-11 date for a 12A trim tag..




The list could go on for days....
779  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Astro Ventilation Window Markings on: September 03, 2013, 03:18:12 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but wasnt the Astro glass just for a few months in 68 and then done?  I have never heard of a 69 having the glass.  Not saying it isnt possible.  Heck I have only seen a hand full of 68's with it..  Two of them were previously owned..
780  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1111499 Distributor Question?? on: September 03, 2013, 03:00:31 PM
I really don't know much about micrometers but on the body it is the difference between 3.815 (know original) and 3.813 my 1111499. That would be a difference of .002

The cap area is 3.800 (known original) and 3.797 my 1111499. That would be a difference of .003

That seems like an incredibly close measurement to me. Could this small amount be evidence that the distributor has been turned down?

Al

The numbers stamped into the body are deeper than 0.003"..  Ill be the first to admit I was wrong and it looks like the data doesnt lie.  This just goes to show that the some of these are very hard to decide if they are real or bogus.  Congrats on having a real one and I would feel confident in buying it if I was looking for one.  Also that couple of thou difference could have been from the polishing..
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