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271  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stripe delete on: May 08, 2014, 06:31:40 AM
If it was before Jan of 68 it would have had "Z-Z" or in this case "Z-2".  But its a June built car.
272  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stripe delete on: May 07, 2014, 02:01:52 PM
Weeelllllll now that you mention it......  It does look a little funny.. Grin
273  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stripe delete on: May 07, 2014, 01:21:43 PM
I feel that Kurt is correct in his logic but without the buildsheet you will never be 100% sure.
274  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stripe delete on: May 07, 2014, 11:36:32 AM
  The code didn't tell the assemblers anything about what color, or if it was a stripe deletion, or if it was going to receive a show finsh, it was just a code to clue the FISHER paint line that there were special paint requirments for this car.  The actual requirements were on a peice of paper that accompanied the car, or were on hand at the paint booth.  The - or - and a number at the bottom of the tag were indicative of an FSO (fleet or Special Order) number. 

I believe that is what I said or at least was trying to say but just in a much more condensed version.   Grin


I will have to respectfully disagree with you Mark.

I fully believe that the " - - " was used for stripe changes and/or deletion as well as special colors.  This would give everyone (Fisher or GM) a heads up to look at the buildsheet to verify color/stripe/whatever change.
275  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stripe delete on: May 07, 2014, 10:40:35 AM
kolektor,
 I have never seen a La mans blue car with black stripes from the factory, V.T. or not. Marina blue? yes. where did you see that La mans default stripe color information?
      VT

http://camaros.org/numbers.shtml#ExteriorColors

276  Model Specific Discussions / 6-cylinder Camaros / Re: Slowly starting the 6 cylinder RS build from Hell on: May 07, 2014, 08:52:42 AM
Thats a great way to build a car.  Plus it makes it more exciting and fun.  Cant wait to see pics!
277  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stripe delete on: May 07, 2014, 07:27:24 AM
I will have to respectfully disagree with you Mark.

I fully believe that the " - - " was used for stripe changes and/or deletion as well as special colors.  This would give everyone (Fisher or GM) a heads up to look at the buildsheet to verify color/stripe/whatever change.
278  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct engine paint suggestions please! on: May 06, 2014, 03:46:43 PM
Sure looks like a mask.  Good eye James..
279  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Auction at Auburn Indiana this weekend... on: May 06, 2014, 09:51:23 AM



How could anyone want a 69 (especially HO 69   Grin) over something as beautiful as this.



Seriously though, there are a few things wrong with the car but if it has docs and/or the correct drivetrain it could bring a decent price.  Pretty car nonetheless.

280  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Stripe delete on: May 06, 2014, 09:14:55 AM
E is the interior paint code which is black.  GG is ash gold no vinyl roof.

281  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Parts for 1 gen Camaro on: May 06, 2014, 08:53:58 AM
I have used Classic Industries several times.  They are a little bit slow on shipping but other than that I have had good experiences with them.  I usually try to buy from local vendors if possible but sometimes the price difference will force me to buy from Classic.  Never dealt with Year One due to their prices are usually too high.  Heartbeat would be another that seems to have a good rep but I have not used them so I can not speak from experience.
282  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: stamping real or? on: May 05, 2014, 08:18:46 PM
Im not so sure about this one.  Awful crisp stamping..  I wont post why I feel this way but I dont like it.
283  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 68 and 69 Camaros for sale..... :) on: May 05, 2014, 09:12:52 AM
If they cars are solid then that is a great buy at 8K.  I was getting excited about the 68 until I read it was an auto with A/C..   Cry
284  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Bad Luck is Better Than No Luck; Right? on: May 05, 2014, 08:01:37 AM
Bouncing back to this thread...don't overlook a hydraulic roller if your going in that direction. I run one with hydro roller lifters in the race car and am very pleased with it.
Back to a binding issue ,get a straight line measurement of a bent rod vs. true one and subtract the difference. How much are milled from the heads, gasket thickness ,deck height ?  My guess is pushrod length obviously wasn't checked in assembly. Again a real mystery to me that motor ran fine for awhile before breakage Geometry problem.

 No raw fuel in the headers ?

What was your run time? Was the initial "tick" immediate upon oil pressure coming up? Was it primed before start up ? I continue to find it hard to believe it was broken in prior to your purchase.

Goes without saying use an adjustable pushrod to obtain proper length this go around. They will vary with machining/cam/rotating assemblies which deviate from stock measurements. Sometimes per cylinder, per I/E. I'm into bigger cube small blocks but has to hold true for " the heavy engines" also.

I would have bet  shrapnel made it's way to the bottom of the pan and "machining" to the filter--good for you. Keep us updated on your findings.

(hydro roller/roller lifters, fresh/matched valve train, low maintenance ground pounder with good vacuum and idle characteristics IMO)

No slop, Timing is dead on.  I will degree the cam once I go back together with it.  After dis-assembly its not as bad as I first thought.  The valves were just kissing the pistons and no real damage has occurred. No debris in the oil pan and cylinder walls look great.  I will be putting new bearings in the block & on the rods just because.  I have checked the pushrod length and it is correct.  At first I had thought the pistons were hitting the heads but that is not the case after claying.  Same with the P to V there is 0.050" clearance there.  I am going to chalk it up to engine not running for 7 plus years and things didnt want to play nice and after it bending the pushrods and me readjusting them it began to destroy the pushrods.  After all the pushrods were 1010 mild steel so I guess I am fortunate because it destroyed them and not something else like a valve or piston or cam.  Still not 100% yet on the cam.  I am old school and I have a Crane blueprint cam I bought years ago. Its a solid flat tappet L78 cam that I may end up using since all I would need is lifters.  I am going to go ahead and have the heads reworked and new springs installed and start putting it back together.  If it fails again then Ill build another motor or go LSx (since I have the ECU, harness & forged shortblock sitting in the garage.  Either way I am pushing forward. 

As for the guy that built the engine; I have talked to him and he broke it in and drove it a couple times and when my father got the car he ran it quite a bit and even drove it up the street a couple times.  He is not the type that would overlook details but everyone is human.  The guy that did the heads has turned out to have a very bad rep in the area and is not longer in business so if there is a problem with heads Ill have the answer as to why and who.  Nothing more I can do now but move on and build it back.

Thanks for any and all tips, replies or things to look for.  Fortunately this is not my first or last rodeo.   Cheesy
285  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 04, 2014, 09:02:52 PM
Will we receive an email notification of when our data is shipped out?  Would like to know when to expect the letter or package is in the mail.   Grin  Thanks, Darrell
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