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901  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original Brake Hoses for '69 Z28 on: May 29, 2012, 05:17:52 PM
Hi Gary,

 I had my 4 piston calipers sleeved with SS inserts in 1987 and still holding well though I did install new rubber seals recently just for the sake of it.
I had a local shop by me called Apple Hydraulics ( )  install a brass sleeve for $95. They do brass and SS but I opted for brass to save some $$$$.
They do complete rebuilds or just install a sleeve and you rebuild it. I went for option 2 and got the rebuilding kit locally at LI Corvettes ($28) and saved quite a bit ( over $100 total ) doing the rebuild myself.
902  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 under body dichromate primer? on: May 29, 2012, 02:57:05 PM
 I found the answer to my own question from a buddy who works in a paint shop. He used a rag with some compound and was able to get a deep gloss from the yellow that was like the topside body color gloss. Cool idea! The red primer area he rubbed had a slight shine but nowhere like the gloss as the yellow. He did this to show me the difference between the two to rule out the yellow being a form of primer. He said it was likely darker because of the red oxide primer under it vs. the gray primer used on the topside and the fact that is was mainly thick overspray even though the whole under carriage is yellow over red oxide primer right up into the tunnel and stops at the floor meets cowl line. I still donít know how a reciprocating sprayer would reach so far under unless the fan size was very large, and seeing other examples of the same coverage on other posts, I'll go with what I found.
 So, if the results donít follow the theory, keep the results and change the theory.  Wink
  So this is how Iíll restore the underside

903  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original Brake Hoses for '69 Z28 on: May 29, 2012, 01:50:42 PM
  I have rebuilt both and it's impossible to see the SS inserts on either the M/C or calipers when installed.

904  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 67 repo door skin experience? on: May 27, 2012, 06:52:09 PM
 Thanks Daniel. I may go with the whole door shell from dii being their are no P/N's stamped into it and I checked out the ribbing and it's the same as the original door.
Either way if I get the skin or whole door, I'll post my results about it for future reference.

905  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / 67 under body dichromate primer? on: May 27, 2012, 02:46:30 PM
I know this topic has been discussed may times before. While scuff sanding the underside of my 67 NOR 5B convertible I see the whole underside is covered in what I thought was butternut yellow paint. But what is confusing is this appears in the upper parts of the transmission tunnel too. I have researched and read the articles about the underside colors and the finishing process on CRG, so the underside is said to be anywhere from red to black to gray but I find it hard to believe the underside would be completely painted in the body color considering the painting was automated (minus blackouts). What I have is not just overspray because it is too uniform and applied on purpose and on areas outside the robotics reach.

 In the attached picture (Pic 1) the underside layers are as follows from bottom to top:
raw metal --> red primer --> yellow coating (paint or primer?) --> Rustoleum I applied in the 80's.

Looking at the topside body color picture (Pic 2) the layers are from bottom to top:
Raw metal --> factory gray primer --> factory butternut yellow paint --> (repaint) gray primer applied in the 80's --> paint applied in the 80's

The picture with the paint sample (Pic 3) of the 80's butternut paint job was scuff sanded the same grit as the underside to remove the gloss. As you can see it is noticeably lighter than the yellowish hue of the underside as well on the chassis rails that are completely opposite where the robotic sprayers overspray would hit.
If this isn't paint then this leads me to believe that a yellowish primer was also used, possibly a form of dichromate?

906  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Console Gauges on: May 26, 2012, 05:58:24 PM
The gauges in my '67 console have a white sticker with the broadcast code and date.

907  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / 67 repo door skin experience? on: May 26, 2012, 04:00:46 PM
  What I thought would be a routine door skin replacement on my left door turned out to be a surprise once I removed the original skin and went to install the NOS one.
A spare L&R 67 NOS set I bought in the mid-80's and stored since then turned out to be a mis-matched set. The right skin is for a '67 but the left is for a '68 Camaro so that is useless to me.  Shocked
Looking for a NOS panel on ebay averages $500. That's an expensive price to pay for a GM sticker on the inside.
  Has anyone installed either a repo skin or a complete repo door assembly? If so I would love to hear your experiences on fit and quality.
I am looking at Dynacorn and they boast of superior repo parts but then most repo places do.

Thank you,
908  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Recommend a master cylinder rebuilder? on: May 26, 2012, 08:53:38 AM
Whitepost has some interesting cars there and looks like a top notch shop.
I received a separate email suggesting a place called Apple Hydraulics. I checked out their web site and leared they are only 10 miles from my house.
I stopped by there yesterday to drop off the master cylinder and got to speak to the folks there.
Anyhow, they will clean, glassbead and sleeve the cylinder at the cost of $95.
I'll be installing the rebuilding kit myself (including the rear drum line check valve)

Thanks for the reply!
909  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring engine back to points: what's needed? on: May 24, 2012, 07:46:03 PM
 If you have the resistor wire intact and a stock type coil (2 wires), then it should work fine poviding the distributor is properly indexed.

910  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Recommend a master cylinder rebuilder? on: May 24, 2012, 07:29:31 PM
 It's time to get the master cylinder sleeved after 45 years of use.
Can anyone recommend a place that they have had good service with?

Thank you,
911  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring engine back to points: what's needed? on: May 24, 2012, 05:49:19 PM
In addition to Big Iron's question, did you save the original resistor wire to be used with the stock distributor?

912  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Fisher Body Paint Shop on: May 23, 2012, 07:52:15 PM
here is two 69 , 1 lemans blue and other rally green

I know this is an old thread but in the process of re-restoring my 67 5B NOR ragtop and wanting to return the underbody to the correct finish method, I have been studying this topic in detail for a long time and have also read the 'Process Overview' article many times.  When I restored the car back in the mid 80's I scuff sanded and sprayed the under body semi gloss black for the clean look. I remember seeing yellow but I never kept record of how much.
 Now I want to undo that. No matter where in the undercarriage I sand I uncover the following layers (going from top layer to bare metal) layer-->  black (my paint from the 80's) --> butternut yellow (original body color and paint) --> red oxide primer layer--> what looks like a dark gray or black very thin layer (phosphate?) --> bare metal. There is no gray to be found underneath so far as reports suggest should be there and overspray over that.
  What stumps me is the whole bottom has a layer of butternut yellow including deep inside the tunnel at the if the whole bottom was sprayed. I figured the robotic sprayers would hit the bottom edges mainly and not so much up and into the tunnel top.
 These pictures, especially the green example,  prove to me that it is possible to have an almost underbody color the same as the top coat. It may sound anal but I am so relieved to see this example and know it can happen. Smiley

913  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Is this a Non-Console Automatic Floor shifter? on: May 21, 2012, 02:33:52 PM
Bob- no....I'm a '67 guy  Wink

Ed - Thanks for the link. sure does look like a Mustang. But the Ebay link above looks more like the console shifter identification plate being it's a 2 piece design.

Interesting to see such a thing existed!

914  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Is this a Non-Console Automatic Floor shifter? on: May 21, 2012, 01:22:01 PM
 So the ebay ad shows the shifter but the console plate shown was not used for cars with no console?
What was the means to show what gear the tranny was in?

915  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: What is the assembly line correct 68 Rochester 4-bbl carburetor choke pull-off? on: May 21, 2012, 12:16:10 PM
OK Both my carbs are Carter built Q-Jets so that might be where the difference comes in.

Did Carter built QJ's also have "RP" stamped pulloffs, I wonder?
Most of the parts on a Carter QJ don't have an RP stamped into them so I assumed that the pulloff didn't have it either.

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