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856  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: 69 Oil Pressure Gauge on: May 03, 2012, 04:23:15 PM
I ran a metal line back in my racing days and the only thing I found annoying was it telegraphed engine noises into the passenger compartment.

Mike
857  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Did console gauge cars also have a low oil pressure switch? on: May 02, 2012, 09:48:19 PM
Hi Brian K. here, I took a quick measurement of the firewall to engine block line and it's about 7 inches long. I dont have access to my inside line but the Chevrolet service bullentin says that dealers are to take off the junction, drill the hole bigger (1/2 inch in size) use the line thats inside the car to go to the block (it supposed to be long enough) and add the rubber grommet part number 3906193. Remember this is for people bringing their cars back to the dealer with oil leaks, that how GM told the dealer to fix it. The bullentin says effective June 5, 1967 the 2 piece design will be replaced to this one piece set up in production cars. My 11E build 67 RSSS has this set up owned since 1988, my original lines are white translucet in color. The current repops are black, I've found a good replacement from Auto Meter part number 990023 which looks and functions like original. Glad to help, I'm using my dads account here sorry for any confusion. Sincerely Brian Kotula
Bob
The bulletin may have listed June 5th but that is likely for the cars with the brass fitting installed before the redesign mentioned as 3/10/67 in the AM. I would suspect after that date the oil line was a single unit and used a grommet and the service bulletin released afterwards when failures started to show in the field. The AM drawing release date showing only the grommet was 4-15-67. So I would say Bob that your 5E likely came with the oil line and grommet. What size is the hole in your firewall? That should give an idea of what you should be using.

Mike
858  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Did console gauge cars also have a low oil pressure switch? on: May 02, 2012, 08:37:17 PM
I found the fitting and attached 2 pictures showing the body and the oil line compression method.
I removed this from a Dec 66 Camaro w/gauges parts car in '82 (not 87 like I said before). Notice there is a nut in the middle of the fitting to snug it to the firewall.

My 67 5B NOR car has the grommet and a single oil line. Looking at U17/A3 & A4 I see "Redrawn & redesigned" 3-10-67 and just show the grommet so I wonder if they eliminated the brass fitting if it did exist

Mike
859  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Did console gauge cars also have a low oil pressure switch? on: May 02, 2012, 08:01:43 PM
 Anyone with the brass fitting have pictures to post?
I'm looking for one I pulled from a car 25 years ago to take a picture of.
I'll post it when I find it so we can compare.

Mike
860  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Did console gauge cars also have a low oil pressure switch? on: April 29, 2012, 01:09:33 PM
Mike,
Just wondering, do your 67's have a brass fitting or a rubber grommet for the oil line at the firewall?
Bob

Hi Bob,

  It's a grommet. I do have a brass one that I pulled from a parts car back in '87 that was screwed thru the firewall and the oil line was 2 pieces. I heard here that was never factory fitting but I dispute it because I have heard other people with the same setup in earlier Camaros. The car I removed this from was Dec 66 SS350 if I remember right.


Mike
861  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Alternator- Early '69 Build 61 amp on: April 28, 2012, 06:01:16 PM
Hi Marty,

 I would say it depends on what alternator was used and how many in a batch run. The standard alternator with a car ordered with little options that required anything beyond 37A would be consumed faster hence closer to the vehicle assembly date than one that was used with let's say A/C.  So maybe a week before to several weeks depening on the demands.
  Like the gas tank date vs. cowl date thread, maybe one for alternators?

Mike
862  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Alternator- Early '69 Build 61 amp on: April 28, 2012, 01:33:18 PM
Hi John,

  Not to deviate from the main topic but I've seen this photo a number of times and each time I study it I notice something new.
I see the 6 cyl engines are blue. Was there any significant reason for that color and not Chevy orange?

 I see a very familiar thing though with the floor. It looks like it is built with wood blocks, no doubt due to the weight of the engines and the machines moving them. When I worked at Grumman Aerospace years ago several of the older assembly plants that were building aircraft during WW2 and beyond had wood floors made with 10x10 blocks (if I have the size correct) stacked tightly side by side.

Thanks,
Mike
863  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: My old Z on ebay on: April 28, 2012, 12:00:09 PM

Wow...that does look really nice as is in those pictures. So, the firewall markings weren't on it when you had the car I assume.

Mike
864  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Alternator- Early '69 Build 61 amp on: April 28, 2012, 11:48:26 AM
 Are you sure of that Daniel?
  Some engines were built and sat on a rack for weeks to months before being installed in a car. So in this case for alternators that were installed during engine dressing, the date stamped may very well come before or after the engine build date depending on the volume and popularity of parts consumed on the assembly line.
In the case of my 2 '67's with originl electrical parts the LOS built car has the optional alternator so it sat for a while and was built before the engine assembly date before being installed.
The NOR car used the standard 37A unit so the build date was more recent relative to the cowl assembly date but after the engine build date.
LOS- Engine date - T0214 - Cowl date - 4B (UOIT lists 4/13/67 specifically)- Alternator date 7A30 (optional 1100696 - 42A) - Voltage  regulator date 7C
NOR - Engine date T0308 - Cowl date - 5B - Alternator date 7E4 (standard 1100693 -37A) - voltge regulator date - 7E

Or did you mean engine build = engine dressing? Huh

Mike
865  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: buyer beware 1969 Z/28 on ebay paperwork looks like a scam on: April 27, 2012, 05:03:27 PM
I just ask for pics of TT and block stamp. I also mentioned M21 on window sticker which is obviously a fake and the ad said M22. See what kind of fire that lit.

Was there any reply to this request yet?

Mike
866  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Did console gauge cars also have a low oil pressure switch? on: April 27, 2012, 07:05:40 AM
 I don't think so. The gauge attachment point to the block is where the oil light pressure sensor would have been screwed into if you didn't order the gauge package.
I have two BB 67's and the one with the gauge option has the oil line screwed in the same block fitting that the 'idiot light' sensor is screwed into on the other car.
The AIM shows this in U17 / A4

Mike
867  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Z28 photos on: April 26, 2012, 08:44:26 PM
What color is the body?

Mike

I asked because of the under body overspray spray color.

Thanks!
Mike
868  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Z28 photos on: April 26, 2012, 07:55:19 PM
What color is the body?

Mike
869  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 cortez silver Z/28 on: April 23, 2012, 11:04:39 PM
The paintball team I am on along with another team did a couple of years of fund raisers for Wounded Warrior at the Coram field.
My car club did mention the show out east. If weather permits, I'll go there as a spectator (my car is being prepped for repaint).
The Yaphank fire dept is only 10 minutes from my house. If you don't mind my email is msinis@optonline.net so if are going I'd look forward to meeting members here.

Sorry this thread got hijacked!  Shocked

Mike
870  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Z10 on Ebay on: April 22, 2012, 05:08:03 PM
I agree that will likely be a rebody.

argh!

What next, hidden VIN re-stamps?
 I'm glad I'm not buying any rare vintage car today.

Mike
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