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751  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Parking Lights will not turn off on: February 25, 2013, 07:57:01 PM
Someone here had this similar problem last year and it turned out to be a misplaced wire in the front harness when he did some wire work.
Try doing a search and you should be able to find that thread.
 Good luck!

752  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 9204 brake booster on ebay on: February 23, 2013, 11:00:03 PM

   If you are certain that is original to your car then that does throw a deviation in this for sure.  Huh
Below is the updated list.

Late 1968
Trim Tag   Julian Date  Delco Stamp  Font size (1/8”)
shelf        334                    no      large
10A        none                 yes       N/A
11A        310                   yes       large

1969        Julian Date   Delco Stamp  Font size (1/16”)
Trim Tag
01C              002               yes      small
02D              055               yes      small
05A              120               no       small
06A              140               yes      small
07A              148               yes      small
09C              199               yes      large
753  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Sunoco 260 on: February 23, 2013, 07:37:06 PM
 I used that in my 69 Grand Prix Model J back in '73. I *think* it was somewhere around 102 or 104, if that high.
Back in the days when you could get real leaded gas.

754  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 9204 brake booster on ebay on: February 23, 2013, 05:15:24 PM
Mike, I wonder if it was lightly stamped and was cleaned up when the booster was restored? It is definitely original to the car.
  That could very well be the case. After I became more interested in this topic late last year I have looked at several original unrestored 69 boosters and many had such lightly stamped Delco markings that not all the characters were fully developed. So, if the metal is stripped down and polished during the restoration process then it's likely the remainder of the characters are removed.

755  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 9204 brake booster on ebay on: February 23, 2013, 03:32:10 PM
Excellent! That fills in the gaps and starts to show a pattern from the sample size below.

Late 1968
Trim Tag   Julian Date  Delco Stamp  Font size (1/8”)
shelf        334                    no      large
09C        199                   yes       large
10A        none                 yes       N/A
11A        310                   yes       large

1969        Julian Date   Delco Stamp  Font size (1/16”)
Trim Tag
01C              002               yes      small
02D              055               yes      small
05A              120               no       small
06A              140               yes      small
07A              148               yes      small

 This sample size is showing that late 68 used the larger 1/8” font and in 1969 it switched to the smaller 1/16” fonts.
In regards to the Delco stamp, the 2 deviations in the list are from the booster I have on the shelf and the 05A booster.
    The one I have on the shelf may very well have had the front shell replaced when it was restored back in the 1980’s when looks were more important than keeping numbers intact.
    The 05A booster *may* have had the shell replaced but I can’t comment on that being it’s not mine and I don’t know its history.
But the data here sure shows the smaller font began around the Jan 1969 period.

Thank you,
756  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Size of original Battery tray mount and clamp bolts??? on: February 22, 2013, 10:08:45 PM
 As a suggestion, if you have the Factory Assembly Manual and if you get a copy of the AMK products catalog, you can see what the fastener sizes should be right down to the bolt size, head marking (most of the time it's correct), thread pitch and finish.

757  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Where to send starter for rebuild. on: February 22, 2013, 08:02:50 PM
I bring them to a local shop that's been doing them for decades. Listed as Alternator & Starter Repair Service.

I agree. I did that for my starter and alternator and the cost was around $40 each. I told the guy it was for a show car so he knew I wanted to retain the original cores
758  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 9204 brake booster on ebay on: February 22, 2013, 07:40:18 PM
Gary & George,

  What size font for the Julian date? 1/16" or 2/16" ?

759  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969VIN on: February 21, 2013, 09:57:53 AM
  As cool as it looks with a partial painting, I'd prefer a full coverage to avoid the oxidation that eventually forms on smooth aluminum surfaces.
As Mark pointed out, being it depends on the painter of the time (van Gogh vs. Joe the painter) that gives us restorers more flexibility.

760  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Trim code on: February 20, 2013, 08:45:16 PM
 Hi Mark,

  That explanation of the month start dates sure clears it up! So, the date periods between the cowl tag and UOIT are correct in this case.
So it looks like the month/week code (ex:04B) and body code (H 457) for LOS built cars can fall within a week of each other.

 Thanks again for the clarification,
761  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Trim code on: February 20, 2013, 04:07:01 PM
  Based on Hot302's question and I know you are discussing '69 vintage but I figured the '67 LOS process was the same.
Here is what I have for my 67 LOS built and the UOIT was under the rug taped to the hump.

Cowl trim tag info:
04B        H457

o   04B = Second week of April (of course)
o   Based on what I have read above the H 457 would equate to H=8th day of month (April) and 457= body number for that day

UOIT printed date on the top above the 'Style' field is 04-13-67

  Based on this excerpt from the CRG article: “The letter indicates the approximate day of the month for the start of the assembly of the vehicle body. It is only an approximate date because it appears that the day on the tag was actually when the vehicle was being scheduled to be built. The actual start of production could vary by a few days”

 I see a lag from the 8th day (H) and the UOIT printed date (04-13-67) of 5 days so this gives credence to the CRG article, if I understand it correctly.
What I do find interesting is the printed UOIT date comes after the stamped cowl tag date. I would have thought the UOIT would be dated before the tag was stamped to indicate the options to prepare the body for but it is looking like the UOIT was printed after the cowl tag was stamped (and with the options). Also of interest is the UOIT paper edges with tape still attached has over spray on it the same color as the body which means it was in the spray boot at that time.

762  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: NCIB on: February 20, 2013, 09:53:45 AM
Hi Ed,

  If it's free then I can afford it  Wink
I had seen that URL before and all it provided was that my VIN was neither a total loss or listed in any theft records.
I was more curious of it's history of previous owners beyond those I know of now.

763  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: NCIB on: February 20, 2013, 08:59:26 AM
So, these reports I see you can buy based on your supplied VIN don't include data as mention in this discussion?
For $6 dollars I was tempted to buy a report for my VIN but was curious if it was worth the money.

764  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Old pictures of the 1969 Z/28 I owned in the late '70's on: February 20, 2013, 08:30:53 AM

  Now that picture of you car sure brings back memories. I had the same car in the same color including rear spoiler I purchased in 1975.
I sold in the mid-80's when the babies arrived and bought a K-car to become a family man (meaning I couldn't afford the gas and needed a bigger car to lug around cribs and baby seats)  Cheesy By that time I had the two BB's I still have now but I sure miss driving the '71 daily with my wife (then girl friend).

765  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Penske 21015 dwell? on: February 20, 2013, 08:16:23 AM
 I was able to get it working last night. It’s been a while since I had to take out the DVM and troubleshoot a point to point wiring circuit (did that in the 70’s when I repaired TV’s back then) and it turned out to be a cold solder joint. A little sweating of the joint and presto…it worked. I can now get the zero set to function.
Nothing like seeing 'Made in the USA' label on something this old and still working.

Thank you for the replies!
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