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676  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: are cowl and trim tags painted on: April 15, 2013, 08:42:31 PM
  I'm curions how the paint was applied. Spray can or a spray gun with a small fan setting.  Huh

677  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: color of front leaf spring bracket? on: April 15, 2013, 01:06:25 PM
 I'm wondering if I can duplicate that finishing effect using a can of GM reconditioning black (I still have a few gallons) and a wire hanger. Where the puddles stick, they stick.

678  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1968 z/28 brake booster inspection mark on: April 15, 2013, 09:54:25 AM
And nothing on my original 67 (084 date) booster aside from the white broadcast tag attached to the booster check valve.
I only mention it because it looks like no paint dabs consistent across the years. I have only seen them on restored cars.

679  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Need cheap insurance on: April 15, 2013, 09:51:40 AM
I use Condon and Skelly for the past 25 years.
No complaints here. I never had a claim though but the cost is under $200 a year.
Where I live you can have an uninsured car as long as it was off the public street.

680  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / 10 classic American muscle cars article on: April 14, 2013, 01:59:30 PM
 Though you may find this of interest (yes it does mention a Camaro)  Wink

681  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Top of cowl paint color line on: April 14, 2013, 01:43:42 PM
So if the firewall blackout is up that high then it is safe to assume there will be black over-spray in the cowl where the wiper motor mechanics are?

682  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: are cowl and trim tags painted on: April 14, 2013, 07:50:14 AM
I got curious because I remembered seeing several white tags in my 68 database, so I went back and checked, and sure enough, I have several early 68 Norwood tags that are painited white. A few are even black, but with white underneath! Here are two examples. The top on is white and the bottom one is white under the black.


Hi Ed,
  Interesting find for '68! As for the white under black tag, the one reason that comes to mind is maybe either the dealer or new owner blacked it out to eliminate the bright 'eye sore' from a free hand tag spray job. Is there black under the white if you clear paint off further? I suspect black will be there.

683  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Loud Knock on: April 13, 2013, 04:43:15 PM
Check the rubber in the front spring bushing to see if it's eroded. Or it could be a broken shock but that usually shows when even bouncing the car.
684  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: engine date code on: April 13, 2013, 01:57:48 PM
 I see what you 38. Do you have a picture by chance of the engine pad? Also, check the block cast date. It should be before the engine assembly date on the pad.

685  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: ZL/2 breather wing nut question. on: April 13, 2013, 01:05:19 PM
 Been with my wife since 1970  Smiley For Christmas she asks what I would like and I give a list of items, web URL's and pricing so Santa gets it right.
She says "It must be a guy thing.......only guys would want nuts, bolts and gaskets for Christmas"

Remember...Love is Grand....and Divorce is 100 grand!  Grin

686  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: are cowl and trim tags painted on: April 12, 2013, 07:39:16 PM
"So you see how a simple topic like trim tags getting sprayed white-you know you would think that is pretty cut and dried right... No because many believe there was some structured process at work underpinning every move on the line.   That was not the case."

 I disagree with the underpinning comment but why not share what the book explains. Maybe that would answer the question the Group asks and also entice members to get more curious and buy the book to learn more.

687  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Top of cowl paint color line on: April 12, 2013, 06:17:26 PM
 Here is a picture from my unrestored 67 4B LOS (with original grime)  Cheesy
Note the blackout didn't make it to the top.
688  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: are cowl and trim tags painted on: April 12, 2013, 06:00:24 PM
 My original 67 NOR 5B tag was not painted but this topic is interesting never the less.  I would like to see this discussed by those who state they know the answers, and to show supporting documentation where it exists is always a plus. This is a free group to join so their (Engineers, Managers, Production Superintendents, and Line personnel) registration would be most welcomed and their contribution invaluable. Case in point, John Z., who has been directly involved in portions of the manufacturing never hesitates to share is knowledge within this research group. People like that are an invaluable resource to learn from and build a solid knowledge base for all to share with others.
 I haven't been in this group long but I have seen some topics that stated one thing and after several people put their information forward  including photos, documentations, etc... that the beliefs at that time changed. One thing that comes to mind was the use of a brass oil line bulk head connector on 67 Camaros. It went from being believed it was an after market item to now an accepted fact that it did exist, but only from getting input from many people. So, the CRG beliefs can change providing there is enough supporting evidence. This white tag topic is no different. If there are those who really know and can answer the questions people like Mark put forth, then I hope they register and come forward.

689  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: are cowl and trim tags painted on: April 11, 2013, 06:50:42 PM
Hi Mark,

  The one reason I can think of for not seeing it after '67 is the following year trim tags weren't stamped with the large amount of option information as in '67.

690  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: are cowl and trim tags painted on: April 11, 2013, 04:49:54 PM
 Hi Mark,

  It seems likely to me to have been more of a visual aid to the assemblers during the post-Fisher body build phase for modifications to the Chevy installed front nose and other exterior drilling (SS,RS emblems, etc) that the white spray was done. By that time Fisher was done preparing the body for options they were responsible for installing or prepping for so any larger font printed documentation such as the UOIT that accompanied the structure build out was no longer needed and removed (well most removed) before going to Chevy. The white paint may have likely been an ad-hoc fix and applied at Chevy for complaints or possible missed preparations on the fast paced assembly line by the Chevy workers. Heck, I need glasses just to read the tiny fonts on my trim tag due to the black paint just standing still!  Grin

Just an observation.
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