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676  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Looking for another decal project to consider on: July 12, 2012, 08:03:04 PM
 I have spoken to the folks at ECS a while back and they say their tags are correct in every detail and created from known tags.
 Not sure of the paper stock though (I never asked them).
http://ecsautomotive.com/

Mike
677  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Radius rod color on: July 11, 2012, 09:13:20 PM
 I searched the CRG archives and didn't find the answer. What is the color of the 67 square radius rod?
The MacNeish Book specs state 30-60% black but I have seen real Chevy NOS ones that look gray and even the CRF article shows gray examples as well.
I painted mine black in the 80's and don't remember seeing any colors then as it had surface rust.
Looking at my 67 L35 with the round bar, that appears to have some traces of black paint still.

Thank you,
Mike
678  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: tag on coil spring. on: July 10, 2012, 07:54:44 PM
I notice many restorations have the coil spring tags right there where everybody can see them. On my last '69 Z they were on the ends of the springs, out of sight inside the frame. I have never seen a coil spring tag in a vintage chassis photo.
That's how it is on my original 67...the tag is just up inside the chassis and out of sight unless you look up into that cavity.

Mike
679  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Speedo cable Clips on: July 10, 2012, 07:49:03 PM
 I just checked and found my 67 NOR 05B w/4 speed Muncie has only 2 holes drilled with 2 clips. One at the firewall (like your picture) and the other near the tranny.

Mike
680  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaro Natiionals @ Frederick Fairgrounds 2012 on: July 10, 2012, 09:33:47 AM
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Don't make your undercarriage gray though.  Jerry's book (and every restored Concours car I saw at the Nationals) has "30-percent gloss black paint".

I have researched this topic deeply and have seen so many different original underbody photos. Despite what the book states, if a car has a gray underbody, then so be it. I don't think anyone is in a position to be the final authority on what took place over 40 years ago if empirical evidence clearly shows that there have been variations seen frequently as if often the case when work is done by a manual process. Sure, the majority may have been black but, IMHO, if you have gray sections too then by all means restore it that way instead of what a book states is correct.

Mike
681  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaro Natiionals @ Frederick Fairgrounds 2012 on: July 09, 2012, 11:35:48 PM
...... I just wish there was a judging manual/summary of some sort similar to NCRS. ......
I'm with you, Chick, for this request too. I found a copy of the NCRS and am using that as a guideline on my current 67 restoration.
It seems easy enough to place a copy of the Camaro judging sheet guidelines on PDF and post it here. Not sure why that doesn't happen. What's the big secret? It can only help a restorer maximize their work efforts and minimize redo's.

Mike
682  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 mono springs use decals? on: July 08, 2012, 01:19:36 AM
MO,

  Which plant for those cars?

Thanks,
Mike
683  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 69 spring label colors? on: July 06, 2012, 10:17:55 AM
 I wonder if there was any real significance to the paper colors used or was it just a random selection.   Huh
I know the fonts on many of the repos are not 100% correct but they sure are close enough. 

Mike
684  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Black Oxide - Bolt Refinish on: July 05, 2012, 08:27:11 PM
Hi Steve,
  
 I use a kit I bought in 1986 from Birchwood Casey for room temp oxide treating.
In it contains the rust remover, pre-dip cleaner and the black oxide solution and a can of Dri-Touch oil.
I still have solutions from that kit today and use it for spot treating bolts. Today there are so many more kits available.
 The trick to longevity is once the parts are treated and oiled initially you have to apply an oil to it periodically to maintain the rust preventative.
I use the Dri-Touch oil which goes on wet and dries to a film that provides the rust prevention. I apply it about 3 times a year with a small model type paint brush (I also apply to other parts too such as carb pieces and brake/fuel lines).
By itself black oxide offers no rust prevention but does provide a base for oil to bind to. The kits are the way to go for convenience and cost savings.

Mike
685  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 mono springs use decals? on: July 05, 2012, 03:48:20 PM
 Thanks all for the informative feedback.
And RP, I did appreciate the posting you have done for the research on the spring colors. The chart in the AIM is confusing for sure.
When I restore that car I'll keep what was there despite the differences in the spring application codes (YJ sticker in front and standard application paint in rear).

Mike
686  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 mono springs use decals? on: July 04, 2012, 08:34:50 AM
 That's is interesting there is a mixture of springs, RP.
My guess on that is one of two things happened:
1- The customer didn't order F41 and standard YG coil springs weren't available so the YJ was used to keep the line moving (shortage in customers favor)
2- The customer ordered F41 but the rear BY springs weren't available and BH were used to keep the line moving (shortage in Chevy's favor)
  Or, there is a third possibility in that the spring chart revised date of 3-3-67 shows a change in usage but the assembly line didn't incorporate it just yet in their process?
Maybe a fourth....I am going to study the stripe closer and see if it is coral and just the yellow hue is caused by the rust. What usage is the coral for?

Thanks for the feedback.

Mike
687  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: GM Mark of Excellence Decal on: July 03, 2012, 06:59:49 PM
 Attached are the left and right side GM metal (aluminum ?) badges on my LOS 4B survivor (including paint).
On the left side you can still see the dealer service stickers glue.
If you can approximate the location by looking at the pictures that should get you close being they were put on by hand.
If you need measurements then I can get them for you.

Mike
688  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Two piece brake rotor replacement. on: July 03, 2012, 01:13:46 PM
  A (reputable) machine shop won't turn them if they are past the minimum for risk of liability.

Mike
689  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Two piece brake rotor replacement. on: July 02, 2012, 10:05:00 PM
 I seriously doubt it was balanced as a complete unit. It makes more sense in mass production to balance the components separately and assemble later using the individual cores so there is no need to have a match pair. If it were that critical then I would think there would be an index mark in case you have to unbolt the sections for things like changing a broken stud and putting it back together in the correct position. Even then, a replacement stud may not be the same weight so there goes the balance if it were ever replaced and the unit was balanced as a whole.

Mike
690  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 9204 brake booster stamp on: July 02, 2012, 09:14:08 PM
Not to add confusion but wasn't there 2 font sizes used in 69? I have a Julian date of 334 on the 9204 booster (no Delco stamp either) and the font size is approximately 1/8" in height. This booster must have come on an early build 69 model. The numbers in the images in this thread look smaller.

Mike
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