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1051  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Z28 on eBay, White Nice.. Real?? on: April 11, 2012, 05:15:03 PM
 I'm no expert on what is fake or real on a tag but I can compare a real Z tag to this and I see the hook on the 6 looks odd as well as the curve of the 3's.
 Just an observation.


1052  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Real 396/RS with A/C on: April 07, 2012, 03:31:56 PM
  The 396 didn't come with AC in 67. That is what caught my attention.

1053  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Real 396/RS with A/C on: April 07, 2012, 11:05:34 AM
Being a 1967 fan I stumbled across this eBay link. What caught my attention was the mixture of air conditioning and the alleged 'Real 396/RS car'


1054  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z28 Brake Booster Question on: April 05, 2012, 08:26:17 PM
 If it's like '67 then the booster normally predates the chassis assembly.
The booster was stamped when the booster was assembled.
I guess in your case it can be possible if a new batch of boosters werereceived and used when the car was assembled.
My 67 LOS 4B has an 8515 booster with 84 as the Julian date.

1055  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: April 1 Homepage 1968 Car on: April 05, 2012, 05:52:35 PM
I see the '67 in the bone yard was missing the 'caution' fan sticker.
That must have been the first thing to get picked being it's so rare  Grin
I can't see how those tires on the East L.A. Camaro are to scale. Looks PS to me.

Funny thread though!

1056  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 4P no radius rod on: April 05, 2012, 05:46:54 PM
So how was the front of the bar mounted if not floor bracket was installed? Bolted through the frame?
The square bracket also used a smaller bracket with a rubber snubber attached to it. Was that installed too?
Can you provide a picture?

1057  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 396 Power Steering Pump on: March 26, 2012, 08:02:16 PM
The high pressure line should go down and under the engine sand with the return line. Is the high pressure hose original ? Should not be a 90 degree at the pump but more like a 45 degree fitting on the hose. The 67 AIM N40 A6 gives explicit instructions on how these lines are to be installed so that engine torque does not fatigue the fitting and does not cause problems with the hoses.
Do you have the sleeves on your hoses?

Hi Bob,

  The hoses were on the car when I bought it back in 1980 and they still have the sponge like sleeves and the round rubber coated ring circling them. The car did have headers installed when I bought it and I put the original manifolds back when I brought it home (the owner supplied them). The hose routing was draped upwards to clear the headers and I never bothered to route them back on the other side of the mount.

1058  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 396 Power Steering Pump on: March 26, 2012, 06:49:59 PM
 This is a rear shot taken thru the motor mounts of the BB pump on my original 67 LOS 4B L35.
Comparing Ed's picture to this the return nipple bend looks correct relative to the lower mounting stud.
Hope this helps.

1059  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: VIN Stamp bona fides on: March 25, 2012, 09:17:01 PM
Looking at the VIN, it appears to have been issued between end of Feb thru March '69
The tranny casting date looks to be the first week of Feb (2 + 1 dot) but a better view will be needed to make sure the dot is not a casting artifact.
It looks like the P-code is 93 XXX(can't make the rest out) so that would be March 69
So far the date periods look good.
What is the tranny case number?
Can you get a picture of the engine VIN stamp too to compare to the tranny and the trim tag?

1060  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Power Steering Fluid Spraying All Over Engine on: March 25, 2012, 01:47:05 PM
Or maybe an internally collapsed hose, if they are old.
Sort of like how it can (and does) happen with brake hoses causing brakes to lock closed.

1061  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Quadrajet Restoration on: March 25, 2012, 01:41:41 PM
I got mine done by Carb Junkys
They refinished each part to their original finish (example: goldish body, zinc colored butterfly's, etc) and they provided an 18 day turnaround and a good price.
It even had new shaft bushings installed.
It was important to me to have the correct finish on each part instead of an all gold carb + parts refinish I have seen on so many 'restored' carbs.
The only finish not preserved was the green Teflon coated shaft ends (mine were rough anyways). I used an approximately matched color enamel for those 2 small sections visible on the outside.

1062  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 CAMARO CALF TRIM TAG on: March 18, 2012, 10:18:31 PM

  The code is usually the week number of the year and they can be found along a flat edge somewhere. Sometimes they are lightly stamped so you have to look carefully. On my hood it was on the right side edge towards the front and the fenders along the top edge that is folded to form the water channel. The door date was behind the panel.
Here is a link to more info:

1063  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 CAMARO CALF TRIM TAG on: March 18, 2012, 10:13:19 PM
 OK...I forgot about the blackouts for the BB codes and the Z stripes. That makes sense now. So even though the codes themselves don't directly reference an engine combo but the work to prepare a body does indirectly reference what is to be placed in it when sent through the wall.
 I always thought the differences between the L35 and L78 was the the shape of the radius rod (round vs. square) but the rod evolution seems to have changed as the production run progressed and the floor plate was the same with either rod so that idea isn't valid. Otherwise I can't see any body preparation differences between the two BB's. I don't why Chevy didn't adapt the 2 radius rod setup like the Firebird.

1064  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 CAMARO CALF TRIM TAG on: March 18, 2012, 07:12:44 PM
............  None of the Fisher codes on a trim tag directly identify a specific engine or drivetrain component, they only identify extra work that was needed to be performed on a "base" body to prepare it for the drivetrain and other options to be installed by GM on their side of the plant.  4P just mean't that Fisher needed to install the front bracket for the radius rod, that GM would install later. 

Hi Mark,

 Based on your comments above, why are there specific 4P thru4 L option codes listed that do define an engine option (section 4) and tranny option (section 2)?
As for the radius rod, I suspect that this may not be an engine error based on the CRG report for radius rods that states:
About one-third of L48/M35 cars have been noted with the round radius rod installed, while the remainder have the rod brackets but are absent the rod. No definite installation pattern has emerged

I have to say that this particular car research is interesting indeed.

1065  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 CAMARO CALF TRIM TAG on: March 18, 2012, 03:45:00 PM
The build sheet *may* be above the gas tank though I have never seen one myself. I found the UOIT on my LOS car taped to the tunnel on the drivers side under the carpet along with an electrical inspection tag.
I was told these are rare to find however so I got lucky to have one with my car and it's the only documentation I have to show it is what it is.

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