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1021  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Hood Catch & Plate Fasteners on: January 20, 2012, 08:21:26 PM
Hey...almost as fun as collecting coins.  Wink

 I'll second that!

1022  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Hood Catch & Plate Fasteners on: January 20, 2012, 12:18:13 AM
Hi Chick,

  I can take a picture of the 'F' bolt from the original 67 LOS car to show the weathered age and that should help prove that period usage. The restored NOR car was completed in 1986 (took 4 years) and I don't think there were any reproducer of bolts at that time  Wink and the 'F' bolts pictured here were restored using black oxide chemicals back then. They stayed well preserved because I use to apply oil twice a year to each bolt head for many years after I stopped showing the car. These aren't today's repos and I'm sure the kits today copied these original patterns.
 The survivor 67 LOS car is completely original , including bolts, with the exception of REAL dated 1974 plug wires (and plugs likely) on the car when I bought it in 1980.

 This whole topic sounds like a good research project. I'm sure a data base can be compiled and bolt marking patters quickly established and even narrow down period correct markings if the sample size is large enough. Tonight I thought of documenting each bolt marking to the manuals part number as an ad-hoc winter project.

1023  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Hood Catch & Plate Fasteners on: January 19, 2012, 08:03:16 PM
Hi Marty,

 I looked over both my 67's tonight and could not find the head marking you show in the original picture. Maybe it was a replacement kit as you suspect?
I did fine another type of marking but more for the bolts used to secure the hood to hinges (4), hinges to fender (4)  and fender to firewall (4)

The 67NOR-hood marking (I'll call 'F')  is seen on all hood to hinge (4), hinge to fender (4) and 2 out of 4 fender to firewall. The remaining 2 have the 3 lines with a B&H imprint.
The cocktail shakers use the same 'F' markings as well. I also found the 'anchor' used on the battery hold down bracket though a different bolt shape

The 67LOS-hood is the 'anchor' type for all 4 hood to hinge bolts. The 'anchor' is also used for the hinge to fender (4) and 'F' bolt for the 4 fender to firewall. This is a hardtop so no cocktail shakers. Interesting enough is the 'F' and 'anchor' bolts appears to be used at both plants. The battery hold down bolt is not readable due to battery acid damage.
 If I can be of any help please let me know.

1024  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: BJ Auction - 67 RS went for $80k on: January 19, 2012, 06:28:38 PM
 My restored 67 SS conv has this attractive color combo.

 Hmmm...must be a rare radio in that too.
Sometimes I wonder how many times the so called *winning* buyer is actually a rep of BJ that is bidding to force the price up artificially but in some cases not having a real legit buyer topping it to take it away. Just an observation.

1025  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 67 Alt. Pulley 3844100 on: January 18, 2012, 10:36:21 PM
 Do you know the size of it? I have a NOS pully that *may* be it.
A quick measurement is 3.2"
1026  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Hood Catch & Plate Fasteners on: January 18, 2012, 10:18:49 PM
Hi Marty,

  I have the original car on a lift so I have to climb up to look at it. I don't mind though.
I cleaned the head on the LOS car and the markings are RBW in a semi cross hair. Interesting enough is that these exact RBW markings are on the other same size bolts used in the engine bay including the battery tray, the passenger side of the radiator mounting bracket, fender braces, horn mounting / hood strike assembly and the two front fender to inner tub bolts (5 on each side). BUT.....these bolts (not including the 4 hood catch in question) have a flat side on the inner and outer compared to the flat outer roud inner shape of the 4 catch bolts (see image of the LOS shroud bolt for the flat inner/outer).
 I'm on a roll....looking at the NOR car, same thing...same 'C' in a semi cross hair head markings used for the hood catch BUT the other bolts mentioned above in the engine bay and fender are exactly as the shroud bolt (see NOR shroud image), flat sides outer and roundish inner. The one exception are 2 fender to inner tub bolts which are flat inside and out and have only the letter 'E' as a marking.
  I suspect the fastener suppliers *may* be near the same geographic region as the assembly plants hence the difference markings. Just a guess.
I may have supplied more info than asked but I found this toipc interesting. Maybe head markings would be a good secondary topic.

1027  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Hood Catch & Plate Fasteners on: January 18, 2012, 06:35:01 PM
I attached 2 images of the hood catch bolts. One is from a 67 (5B) NOR restored in the mid 80's and one is from an unrestored original 67 (4B) LOS car. The NOR hardware hasn't been 'oiled' in 14 years now.
The restored NOR car had all the hardware go back to each component it was used to mount during the restore process. I checked and found most of the bolts the same size within the engine bay had the same head markings as the hood catch bolts in each car.

1028  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: 1967 350 Oil Filter: Canister vs. Spin-On on: January 18, 2012, 06:07:31 PM
I've been using the Wix 51143 canister filters on my 396's and the square O-rings come out with no problems with a slight tug.
I recommend to invest in a set of steel dental type of 'picks' you can buy up at any auto parts store.
These come in handy when having to reach up in the cavity to hook and tug on the o-ring to free it.

1029  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Possible Purchase on: January 13, 2012, 04:44:58 PM
 Do the pictures show the tank codes on each side of the radiator?
Not that it may make a difference but every little piece of info contributes to the overall picture.

1030  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Possible Purchase on: January 12, 2012, 06:23:31 PM
 Maybe the glove box door was changed in the past?
I say this because the convertible I restored in the mid 80's had a huge dent in the glove box door so I replaced it with one from a 350 Camaro
at a junk yard (same interior color). I knew the tire sticker was wrong for a 396 but I used it anyway until recently when a 396 sticker was made.

1031  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Adjusting breaker points? on: January 08, 2012, 09:45:06 PM
 If you are going to maintain a Kettering inigtion then you should invest in an inductive type of timing light and dwell meter. Replacing the points will change the timing.

1032  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Ground Strap Question on: January 08, 2012, 02:06:57 PM
 That's interesting...I would have sworn Ed stated there were 4 which is why I checked my cars.
Ed, did you re-edit your reply by chance?

1033  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Ground Strap Question on: January 08, 2012, 01:37:05 PM

    What year are you talking about?
 I just checked my 2 67's and they both have only 3 straps. Two from the valve covers to firewall and one on the lower right side between the body and frame. I can't locate a 4th strap.

1034  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Recommended chromer? on: December 31, 2011, 04:03:33 PM

  Can anyone recommend a place to send out a set of 67 BB valve covers for re-chrome and actually uses copper in their process?
I may have to go that route after getting a set of repos for Christmas and finding the left side wire tower hits the washer motor and it doesn't have the slight slant end and this seems to be a problem with '67 BB Camaros as far as reproductions go.
  An alternate, though maybe pricey, would be this vendor I found on eBay that has the correct style for the '67 LH side and matches mine perfectly.
 If re-chroming is more costlier than the above eBay item then I may have to go that route.

Thank you and have a great new year,
1035  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct Horn Fasteners on: December 24, 2011, 09:46:17 AM


 I checked mine on a 67 LOS (original) and NOR (restored) horn assemblies and they both use the pointed cad plated serrated fasteners. That is for 67 though and I would assume that would follow through to 69 and beyond being a horn is a safety item which I believe is the reason they are plated and serrated.

Merry Christmas!
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