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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Galvanized finish on 67-68 tail light housings, hot dipped or electroplated? on: October 18, 2014, 08:01:13 PM
Thanks Darrell !

Year  Tag date   Plant  Head type
67      11B          LOS   Hex
67      11E          NOR   Phillip (L&R)
67      04B          LOS   Hex (L) & Phillip (R)
67      05B          NOR   Phillip (L&R)
67      05E          NOR   Hex   (L&R)
67       ?                ?    Phillip (L&R) - posted by 69z28-rs
68      03D          NOR   Hex   (L&R)
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Galvanized finish on 67-68 tail light housings, hot dipped or electroplated? on: October 18, 2014, 11:57:37 AM
Hi John,

  Thanks for chiming on. By head type I was referring to hex or Phillip. So, somewhere along the lamp units revision history the fastener type was changed. Looking at the small sample below there doesn't seem to be any hint of when the type transitioned. Oh well, still an interesting topic  Smiley
So far we have:

Year  Tag date   Plant  Head type
67      11B          LOS   Hex
67      04B          LOS   Hex (L) & Phillip (R)
67      05B          NOR   Phillip (L&R)
67      05E          NOR   Hex   (L&R)
67       ?                ?    Phillip (L&R) - posted by 69z28-rs

Mike
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Galvanized finish on 67-68 tail light housings, hot dipped or electroplated? on: October 17, 2014, 08:22:50 PM
 Looks like there is no pattern for usage between the two different types of fasteners.

John Z. - were the tail lamp housings already assembled from the supplier? If a vendor provides them, who actually would specify the type of fastener head to use?

Thank You,
Mike
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Galvanized finish on 67-68 tail light housings, hot dipped or electroplated? on: October 16, 2014, 08:12:54 PM
I'd guess, based on volume economics, that they were stamped from hot-dip galvanized rolled sheet stock, which then required no further processing or handling.  Smiley
 I agree with that about stamping from stock. I looked at the lamp opening edges and see they are exposed steel with no galvanizing, obviously from the hole stamping process

Mike
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Galvanized finish on 67-68 tail light housings, hot dipped or electroplated? on: October 16, 2014, 08:06:10 PM
 Interesting observation and topic! I checked my housings and found the 05B NOR used Phillip heads on L&R side and the 04B LOS used Phillips on one side and hex heads on the other.
I don't know if it was a NOR vs. LOS thing or a transition from one head type to the other starting around 04B (good idea for a poll?). I doubt it would be one of those 'as long as it fits' usage being the assembler would have to switch out the tool to screw them on.
  I attached images of the NOR and LOS fasteners and a closeup of the hex fastener marking  used on the LOS tail housing.

Mike
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Galvanized finish on 67-68 tail light housings, hot dipped or electroplated? on: October 16, 2014, 06:11:47 PM
 I checked my '67 04B LOS and '67 05B NOR original tail housings and they have a very clear and definite spangle texture.
I would say they were hot dipped.

Mike
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Black Paint on Chrome Parts on: October 14, 2014, 05:32:32 PM
 The GM paint I used then was pre-thinned so it went on straight from the can. It is more of an egg shell gloss, as I would describe it. Looks darn close to Rust-Oleum 7777. Being it was from GM I figured it was the same gloss used for the firewall, tail panel (BB) and radiator and inner fender support so I used it as such. It was a lacquer and dried quickly. I don't know what the GM reconditioning black mixture is today.

Mike
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1967 Camaro stolen on: October 13, 2014, 12:17:56 PM
 In the past when I drove my car to work a few times in the '90's and left it in the parking lot under the security camera, nobody screwed with it.
But, there is always someone who is up to the challenge. At that time I used a steering wheel lock (I know they can be broken quickly) but I also would open the hood and switch plug wires 8,1 & 2,7 on the distributor cap and also substituted a hollow coil wire before I walked away from it. It takes less than a minute to set the wires and close the hood. If anything it would buy time and hopefully enough of it where I can get to the car. Fortunately nobody ever tampered with the car.
  Now, I would invest in the steering wheel locks that have a built in motion sensor that triggers a self contained alarm and also will page you. Similar to the 'Bully' brand alarm I have for my Harley.

Mike
9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Black Paint on Chrome Parts on: October 13, 2014, 07:15:45 AM
Bob,

  Are you referring to the blackout on the tail lamps within the "bumpy" areas? I did mine back in the 80's using a few light coats of GM reconditioning black (no primer) and to this day they still look good with no lifting.

Mike
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Vin for data base on: October 13, 2014, 07:05:14 AM
Vin124378N378371

From what I can tell its a orig rsss396 4 spd M21 car. Manual steering, Power 4 piston front calipers, deluxe interior, no spoiler no console or gauges.
Green exterior black interior
How did you come by this information?

Mike
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 67 poa valve on: October 08, 2014, 05:47:48 PM
056 looks to be the Julian date and that puts it around Feb 25, 1967. I'd say it is correct for your April 67 car.

Mike
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy, New project ' 67 on: October 06, 2014, 05:26:36 PM
Ill get better pics of that for you today
I see what looked like blackout paint is actually dirt. Looks like the wiper motor hole covered explanation looks to be valid so far.
What is that silver tag on the motor head?

Mike
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy, New project ' 67 on: October 04, 2014, 10:30:07 AM
 Looking at this picture posted in reply #14 I see what looks like black paint over spray as indicated by the red arrow where the wiper motor is. I had asked this question before on CRG if there should be firewall blackout over spray in that area and the reply was no and the reasoning is the hole was covered. I found it odd in a way that a line worker would take time to cover a hole and yet the top edge blackout varies widely from car to car even though its stated there was a type of a cover overlaid on the cowl top.
This picture sure looks like black over spray to me.

Mike


14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy, New project ' 67 on: October 04, 2014, 10:13:03 AM
 As I understand it, those extra stamps on the VIN tag was done by the dealer when they received it. I don't remember where I read that though. I have seen those extra stamps a couple of times on NOR cars too.

Mike
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: September 29, 2014, 11:31:04 PM
The rubber lines have different # of ribs to indicate which supplier.
Kurt,

 That makes sense about the number of lines. Probably the same for the windshield washer hoses too?
IYO, do you think the 3 line and 7 line could have co-existed in the same model year? Also, I would think different suppliers between NOR and LOS?

Mike
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