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General Discussion / Re: 1967 Wheel well moldings
« on: May 21, 2024, 06:03:13 AM »
No relationship to vinyl roof installation. Wheel opening moldings were part of the Z21 option that was included with RS or available as an extra cost option on non RS cars.

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Restoration / Re: bellhousing alignment-any new info?
« on: May 19, 2024, 06:13:02 AM »
Ball bearings on the input shaft are more tolerant to bell housing misalignment. Muncies use that type. 

Factory bell housing alignment are usually good enough for service with the Muncie and with a bronze bushing they are trouble free and easy to service.  Newer reproduction bell housings or aftermarket bell housings are more frequently out of alignment enough to need offset pins to correct it.

The newer design Tremec transmissions use a tapered roller front bearing that is more intolerant of bell housing runout so it needs to be checked and corrected before buttoning it all together.

As for the pilot bearing vs bushing - the bushing works great and is easy to remove and install.  The bearing is more difficult to remove, more intolerant of misalignment and does not bring anything to the table so....Why would anyone prefer a pilot bearing?  JMO.

Friction.

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Restoration / Re: Plug for 1969 Z/28 Intake Oil Fill Tube Hole
« on: May 15, 2024, 05:25:53 AM »
Hmmmm....6 speed?

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Originality / Re: Wiper motor stamping
« on: April 24, 2024, 05:07:18 AM »
Tim, I think the date is reasonable for your build date.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Trim Tag - OPINIONS PLEASE
« on: April 24, 2024, 05:03:03 AM »
Hard to tell if the rivets are correct; they look a little thick. The rings around them make it look more suspicious. 

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General Discussion / Re: Website offline
« on: April 23, 2024, 03:29:29 AM »
Ditto.

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Restoration / Re: 1969 Camaro front spoiler support rods
« on: April 20, 2024, 05:08:35 AM »
That was a very easy and popular mod for all first gen Camaro's. I'm sure there were more sold OTC than assembly line installed, and the center brace mostly got tossed I bet.

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Originality / Re: 1969 Camaro Z28 shifter knob or ball options
« on: April 20, 2024, 04:51:05 AM »
While not needed, I suppose some would use it to keep the ball from loosening/spinning?

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Originality / Re: 1969 Camaro Z28 shifter knob or ball options
« on: April 19, 2024, 05:08:18 AM »
Not 67/68 either. Or any other year that I am aware of for that matter.

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General Discussion / Re: 67 Metal dashboard? 2 color reds?
« on: April 14, 2024, 05:28:09 AM »
I found this in another post.
It lists the dash top, but does not list remaining interior %.

Camaro Nationals Seminar
 
MacNeish Book
 
AIR adjusting brace: Semi-gloss black Black paint, 60 percent gloss
AIR anti-backfire valves: Gold cadium Gold cadium dichromate
AIR pump support brace: Chevrolet orange paint Chevrolet orange paint
AIR pump bolt: Phosphate (not specified)
AIR smog pump housing: Natural aluminum finish Natural aluminum finish
AIR smog pump pulley: Phosphate Semi-gloss black paint or gray phosphate
AIR smog tubes: Black zinc Semi-gloss black paint or gold cadium dichromate
Air cleaner base, open element: gloss black 60 percent gloss black paint
Air cleaner lid, standard open element: Chrome Chrome
Air cleaner stud: Silver cadium (not specified)
Alternator assembly: Natural aluminum finish Natural aluminum finish
Alternator pulley: Silver cadium Silver cadium dichromate
Alternator fan, 1967 Z/28: Semi-gloss black paint Semi-gloss black paint
Alternator bolt, lower: Phosphate (not specified)
Alternator bolt, upper adjusting: Silver radium with special extra thick washer (not specified)
Alternator Brackets, lower/upper: Semi-gloss black orange (not specified)
Alternator brackets, lower (not specified) 60 percent gloss black paint
Alternator brackets, upper (not specified) 60 percent gloss black paint
Alternator brackets, rear: (not specified) Chevrolet orange paint
Alternator bracket spacer: Semi-gloss black or natural 30-60 percent gloss black paint
Battery hold-down clamp: Phosphate Natural metal finish
Battery tray: Semi-gloss black 30 percent gloss black paint
Bell housing: Natural with orange over-spray Chevrolet orange paint
Bell crank, throttle linkage: (not specified) 30 percent gloss black paint
Brake hose bracket: (not specified) Natural metal or silver cadium dichromate
Brake lines: (not specified) Natural metal finish, stainless steel acceptable
Brake switch/manifold: (not specified) Natural metal finish
Bumper brackets, front and rear: (not specified) 60 percent gloss black paint
Bumper jack base: (not specified) Semi-gloss gray paint
Bumper jack adapter: (not specified) Semi-gloss gray paint
Bumper jack mechanism: (not specified) Semi-gloss gray paint
Bumper jack pole: (not specified) Gold or silver cadium dichromate
By-pass elbow (water pump 67-68 302): (not specified) Silver or gold cadium dichromate acceptable
Carburetor body: Gold dichromate Gold cadium dichromate
Carburetor lever and arms: Gold cadium on Holley (not specified)
Clutch fork: Natural metal finish Natural metal finish
Clutch linkage: Phosphate Semi-gloss black paint or natural finish acceptable
Coil bracket: Silver cadium Silver cadium dichromate
Coil: gloss black (not specified)
Coil bracket mounting bolts: Silver cadium (not specified)
Column locking mechanism: (not specified) 30 percent gloss black paint
Control arms, front, upper and lower: Semi-gloss black 30 percent gloss black paint
Control arms, mounting bolts: Phosphate with silver cadium nuts (not specified)
Control arm shaft, upper: Natural 30 percent gloss black paint
Core support: Semi-gloss black 30 percent gloss black paint
Cowl plenum air cleaner assembly: (not specified) 60 percent gloss black paint
Cylinder heads: Chevrolet orange paint Chevrolet orange paint
Dashboard, top, 1967-68: (not specified) 30 percent gloss paint
Deck lid striker, 1967 all: (not specified) Silver cadium dichromate
Dip stick and tube: (not specified) Natural metal finish
Disc brake caliper mounting brackets (not specified) Gold cadium dichromate
Disc brake backing plates: (not specified) Silver cadium dichromate
Disc brake calipers: (not specified) Semi-gloss black paint or natural finish acceptable
Distributor: Natural Natural aluminum finish
Distributor hold-down bracket: Natural Chevrolet orange paint or natural metal finish
Door latch mechanism screws, (three in door) 1967: (not specified) Silver cadium dichromate
Door striker: (not specified) Silver cadium dichromate
Drive shaft: (not specified) Natural metal finish
Engine block: Chevrolet orange Chevrolet orange paint
Engine lift hooks: Natural Chevrolet orange paint
Engine vent tube: Semi-gloss black 60 percent gloss black paint
Exhaust manifolds: Natural Natural cast iron finish
Fan blade: gloss black Black paint, approximately 60 percent gloss
Fan clutch assembly: Natural Natural metal, silver or gold cadium dichromate
Fender bolts: Phosphate Black phosphate
Fender skirts, front: Semi-gloss black 30 percent semi-gloss black paint
Firewall: Semi-flat black 30 percent semi-gloss black paint
Firewall stamps "P", "T", "B": orange or green paint orange or green paint, Norwood cars only
Floor pans: (not specified) 30 percent gloss black paint, original cars usually have body color over spray on the floor boards
Flywheel shield: (not specified) Chevrolet orange paint
Front springs: (not specified) Natural finish
Front cowl area under cowl panel: (not specified) body color to edge of firewall, where firewall and body color meet is a feathered line, not a crisp taped line
Front cowl panel retaining screws: (not specified) Silver cadium dichromate
Front fender support bars: (not specified) 60 percent gloss black paint
Front spindles: (not specified) Natural metal finish
Front sway bar mounting kits: (not specified) Silver cadium dichromate
Gas lines: (not specified) Natural metal finish
Gas tank: (not specified) Natural finish, galvanized
Gas tank straps: (not specified) Natural or semi-gloss black paint
Grille, front 1967 RS and non-RS: (not specified) Black
Ground straps, engine bay: Natural copper Natural copper finish
Harmonic Balancer: Chevrolet orange Chevrolet orange paint
Heater box cover: gloss black 60-70 percent gloss black paint, (more gloss than firewall)
Heater hose nipple Intake: , Silver cadium Silver cadium dichromate
Heater hose nipples, water pump: Chevrolet orange (not specified)
Hood hinges: Phosphate gray or black phosphate
Hood latch assembly: Phosphate gray or black phosphate
Hood latch assembly spring: (not specified) gloss black paint
Horns: gloss black 30 percent gloss black paint
Horn relay: Silver cadium Silver cadium dichromate
Hose clamps: Silver cadium Silver cadium dichromate
Intake manifold: Natural aluminum Natural aluminum finish (clear coating intake manifolds not acceptable!)
Intake manifold bolts, 302 "TR", "M", "A", non-shouldered hex head style: Silver cadium Silver cadium dichromate
"L" bracket, (holds master cylinder manifold/switch to stud on brake booster): (not specified) 60 percent gloss black paint
Leaf spring shackles: (not specified) 30-60 percent gloss black
License plate mounting brackets: (not specified) 60 percent gloss black paint
Master cylinder: Semi-gloss black 60 percent gloss black paint or natural finish acceptable
Master cylinder cover: Gold cadium Gold cadium dichromate
Master cylinder cover retaining wires: Silver cadium Natural metal finish
Oil cap: Chrome Chrome
Oil fill tube: Chrome Chrome
Oil pan and bolts: Chevrolet orange Chevrolet orange paint
Parking brake cables: (not specified) Natural metal finish
Power brake booster: Gold iridite Gold cadium dichromate
Power steering brackets/braces: Semi-gloss black 60 percent gloss black paint
Power steering pump: gloss black (not specified)
Proportioning valve: Natural or semi-gloss black Semi-gloss black paint or natural finish acceptable
Proportioning valve bracket: Gold cadium Gold cadium dichromate
Pulley, crankshaft: Natural 60 percent gloss black paint or gray phosphate acceptable
Pulley, power steering: Semi-gloss black (not specified)
Pulley, power steering crankshaft (not specified) 60 percent gloss black paint
Pulley, power steering pump: (not specified) 60 percent gloss black paint
Pulley, water pump: Semi-gloss black gray phosphate or 60 percent gloss black paint
Radiator: gloss black paint full gloss black paint
Rally wheels: (not specified) Semi-gloss Argent Silver paint front side, semi-gloss black paint back side
Rear axle housing: (not specified) 30-60 percent gloss black paint, natural finish acceptable
Rear brake backing plates: (not specified) 30-60 percent gloss black paint
Rear springs: (not specified) Natural finish or gray paint
Rear wheel wells: (not specified) Black undercoating
Shift linkage: (not specified) gray/black phosphate finish
Shock absorbers: (not specified) Semi-gloss gray paint
Spark plug shields: (not specified) Silver cadium dichromate
Spark plug wire loom brackets: Chevrolet orange Chevrolet orange paint
Starter motor: Semi-gloss black 30-60 percent gloss black paint
Starter motor brace: Semi-gloss black 30-60 percent gloss black paint
Starter bolts: Silver cadium (not specified)
Steering box: (not specified) Natural metal finish
Steering knuckles: (not specified) Natural metal finish
Steering linkage: (not specified) Natural metal finish
Sub-frame: (not specified) 30 percent gloss black paint
Sway bar, front: (not specified) Semi-gloss black paint or natural finish acceptable
Sway bar brackets: (not specified) 60 percent gloss black paint
Thermostat housing: Natural aluminum Silver or Chevrolet orange paint
Throttle linkage: Phosphate (not specified)
Throttle rod: (not specified) Silver cadium dichromate or natural metal finish
Timing chain cover and bolts: Chevrolet orange Chevrolet orange paint
Traction bar, 1967 only: (not specified) 30-60 percent gloss black paint
Transmission: (not specified) Natural aluminum finish
Transmission crossmember: (not specified) 30-60 percent gloss black paint
U-bolts, driveshaft: (not specified) Natural metal finish
Underside of front hood: (not specified) 60 percent gloss black paint
Valance panel, front lower: (not specified) painted body color on inside of panel
Valve covers: Chrome Chrome
Voltage regulator: gloss black painted cover with silver cadium base gloss black painted cover with silver cadium base
Water pump: Chevrolet orange Chevrolet orange paint
Water pumps bolts: Chevrolet orange (not specified)
Windshield washer pump cover: Black plastic, natural finish Black plastic, natural finish
Wiper motor: gloss black paint gloss black paint
 

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Do you guys have TT info on the cars you are aware of? Maybe you could get a consensus from build dates as to a time frame or maybe a grouping of cars?

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General Discussion / Re: 67 Metal dashboard? 2 color reds?
« on: April 13, 2024, 04:16:27 AM »
All you need to do is provide your jobber with the paint codes and have it mixed just as shops do. Unless you have a mixing system and mix in house. Interior hues varied within the car and codes don't lie. Here are links that you can use for reference.  You can also contact your jobber or call the color library for the paint company you use. http://documents.clubexpress.com/documents.ashx?key=Mn9lNR5oNp9Osk1Oybo9zXiUl8H2ZPEfYNR%2fojqMOY6daTf3pOKmoYhGMkL2rkQ%2f

http://www.worldwidecamaroclub.com/pdf/tech/paintcodes.pdf

http://camaroattitude.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?manuf=GM&model=Camaro


Links don't work for me. But I remember JM's 1969 Z/28 and SS Camaro Fact Book has a list of finishes printed and noted the dashtop was 30% gloss. I don't recall the gloss percentage for the rest of the interior. 

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Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Beaumont and Duboscís Tour de France 68 Camaro
« on: April 11, 2024, 03:37:09 AM »
Excellent research Scott!

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No Camaro's built at Fremont.

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Originality / Re: Unicorn option help ? D88
« on: April 06, 2024, 04:15:39 AM »
I'd like to see that on black car.

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