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General Discussion / 1967 & 1968 Camaro Legends Judging Manual
« on: January 20, 2023, 05:20:20 PM »
I have received so many positive comments about the Camaro Legends Judging Manual. Lots of nice feedback on what is covered for originality, the depth of information, and the loads of high quality photos. I need to thank the owners for the cars featured - Robert Elke with his Z28's, Doug Perry - 1967 Yenko, Paul Laurenzi - 1968 Z28, Chick Renn - 1968 Z28 and Larry Christensen - 1967 Pace Car. My 68 Z28 had the most photos - great shots of the original spot welds for the body panels, original interior shots, and miscellaneous photos of original parts. Plus what we look for with restored photos - alternator, master cylinder/booster, trunk compartment. Think Paul was the only other with such great photos for originality. Can't beat the combination of photos of originality combined with what we are looking at when judging concours restored cars. Best comment - "The must have book for anyone restoring a Camaro or wanting to know what is correct"

Originality / 1968 Transition from 1967 style to 1969 style washer pump
« on: September 30, 2022, 01:11:59 AM »
There appears to be a transition during the 1968 model year from using the 1967 style washer pump to the 1969 style. Does anyone know or can help with when this occurred? The 441 wiper motor wad used but the 1967 style which bolted with longer screws through the plastic seems to have been used through at least February. Somewhere there was a change to the 1969 style which had a square type plastic cover and short screws mounted directly from the metal. thanks

Originality / 1968 Disc Brake Pedal Pad
« on: August 19, 2022, 02:33:03 PM »
My understanding is that there was a transition in 1968 for the 4-speed disc brake pedal pad. Early cars did not receive the disc brake pad with the round stainless "Disc Brake" trim.  When was the transition? And also was there a similar transition for automatic disc brake cars?

Originality / Special spare tire hold down bracket
« on: August 10, 2022, 11:34:47 PM »
There was a special spare tire hold down bracket used when the tire was mounted face up I believe.  The jack base was mounted right side up also. This was used just below the wing nut. Have  not seen this in the assembly manual.  But in some jacking instructions. Any info about this would be appreciated.

Originality / Don't know Jack about Camaros Part 4
« on: July 22, 2022, 12:23:59 AM »
Working on the jack section for the 1967 / 1968 Camaro Legends Judging Manual - Went thru old threads here as well as other sources. It appears Ryerson & Haynes was the supplier to Norwood in 1967 and early model year 1968 thru November or December, 1967. Then Universal became sole or primary supplier.  Also, there were two versions of the Universal load rest or lift hook in 1968. First has 1968 Camaro UN on the face. The second had that writing on the back or underside. Do not know if this was random or a date transition. Any help in verifying or correcting these issues would be appreciated. Need know original jacks. thanks

Originality / 1967 1968 Jack Assembly 3rd Manufactuer
« on: May 30, 2022, 12:22:45 AM »
I am familiar with the Universal and Walker jacks. Has anyone seen either of these two jack types in a 67 or 68 Camaro? And who is the manufacturer

Working on the 67/68 Legends Manual and have a question for anyone owning a survivor 1968. What is the the finish on the rear window filler and filler corner pieces? This is the metal piece below the rear window and sail panels and above the package tray. Is it a smooth egg shell finish or a textured suede finish like the top of the dash. And what is the build date of car ?  Thanks, Brad

Originality / 1967 Fuel Line Clips
« on: April 25, 2022, 05:57:02 PM »
The 67 Assembly manual calls for a fold over clip on top of the frame rail by the heater box.  Has anyone with an original or survivor 67 seen this clip replaced with a double riveted clip like the two on the side of the frame rail? Seeing examples from LA cars and one Norwood car where the riveted double clip was used rather than the fold over clip. thanks

Originality / Late 68 model year changes
« on: March 17, 2022, 01:02:54 AM »
trying to find any other late 68 model year changes which may have occurred as assembly was getting ready for the 1969 model. Only items that come to mind are the change in front spoiler being bolted to the front valence vs. using the braces and the hood adjustment hole. Anything else come to mind? thanks, Brad

Originality / Other sideview mirror suppliers 67-69 Camaro
« on: March 17, 2022, 12:59:40 AM »
Would anyone have good photos showing the date code on either a 67 Standard brand mirror or a 68 Ajax brand mirror? thanks, Brad

Originality / Two types of Peaked Trico Wiper Blades
« on: August 28, 2021, 10:45:35 PM »
Seeing 2 different styles of " Peaked" Trico wiper arms. First has 2 bends and comes to the typical peak or point that comes to mind. The other has 3 bends and comes to a flatter peak. This style is not the flat style replacement Trico wiper blade. These are on 1968 and 1969. Why the difference? Is it a production date issue ? thanks

Originality / 1969 Z21 Wheel Opening Moulding Bolts
« on: August 15, 2021, 10:55:31 PM »
The 1969 AIM for the RPO Z21 shows a change for the bolt ( screw assembly) mounting the moulding, inner fender, and fender together. The standard cars used a black bolt with floating washer, while the cars with the mouldings received a silver bolt with a serrated floating washer. When was the date change to the silver? Can't read the date in the AIM. thanks

Originality / Headlight Adjusting Screws & Nylon Nuts
« on: June 30, 2021, 01:03:44 AM »
Are people seeing three different headlight adjusting screws used. All are black finish with tapered ends. 69 are Phillips head. 68 are slotted with a small hex head, and 67 are Phillips but shorter than 69. Also are the nuts two prong or four prong.  Thanks

General Discussion / 1969 Camaro Legends Judging Manual
« on: June 27, 2021, 12:24:03 PM »
$500 Reward - no questions asked for the return of the 1969 Camaro Legends Judging Manual. PM me if you have it

Originality / AM antenna masts and wiper blades
« on: June 11, 2021, 03:03:57 PM »

Seeing two different types of original AM antenna masts. One with a groove in the tip and another with no groove. Does anyone know if this is due to two different manufacturers or was there a manufacturing transition?  Also, there seem to be two different designs of Trico wiper blades that hold the rubber refills. One style is peaked. The other is flat. With both being marked Trico Made in USA. Was this due to a transition. With one style being an early style and the other later. Or was the flat style strictly a replacement ? thanks

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