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Restoration / Re: Front sway bar and springs
« on: February 01, 2023, 12:06:33 AM »
Here is the description of the front springs from the manual - Springs should be a natural finish, blued or dark phosphate. Paint is not acceptable.  The sway bar is painted semi-gloss black. When doing the manual, we tried to use photos of what would be correct. The 68 Z28 used was restored nearly 30 years ago. It was used to show the original body panels with spot welds ( especially rear wheel wells), original interior, and original engine and components.  Back then, bare steel painted springs were acceptable. The photo above was used to show the original tie rod adjuster and hardware. Repos are different Could not avoid getting the spring in the background. Nor could it readily be taken out and have a correct finish put on.  The sway bar links in the photos have the correct finish.  Please look at what the photos are being used for with the captions. Not perfect but go with the descriptions

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Restoration / Re: Front sway bar and springs
« on: January 30, 2023, 12:33:04 AM »
Sway bar would be satin or semi-gloss. No the springs do not look right

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Restoration / Re: Front sway bar and springs
« on: January 27, 2023, 12:01:21 AM »
Sway bar is painted black. Springs should be heat tempered steel with a bluish black finish. Not painted black

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General Discussion / Re: 1967 & 1968 Camaro Legends Judging Manual
« on: January 21, 2023, 09:40:21 PM »
The manual covers a lot of what you would look for in judging a base car - exterior, interior, underneath, suspension, rear housing, etc. For the six cylinder engine, some of what is covered would carry over such as the finish on the coil and its bracket, plating on the monojet. Specifics like the fan shroud, fan we don't cover.  If you are restoring a car or buying a restored car, then this is the resource for you. Or if you are buying a 67, it would be nice to know if it has the correct rear quarter panels, since there are three different styles. Same thing with other transition items.

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General Discussion / Re: 1967 & 1968 Camaro Legends Judging Manual
« on: January 21, 2023, 07:37:34 PM »
I would be glad to help with any questions. We did not want to repeat readily available information, such as trim tag codes or engine codes.

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General Discussion / 1967 & 1968 Camaro Legends Judging Manual
« on: January 20, 2023, 05:20:20 PM »
I have received so many positive comments about the Camaro Legends Judging Manual. Lots of nice feedback on what is covered for originality, the depth of information, and the loads of high quality photos. I need to thank the owners for the cars featured - Robert Elke with his Z28's, Doug Perry - 1967 Yenko, Paul Laurenzi - 1968 Z28, Chick Renn - 1968 Z28 and Larry Christensen - 1967 Pace Car. My 68 Z28 had the most photos - great shots of the original spot welds for the body panels, original interior shots, and miscellaneous photos of original parts. Plus what we look for with restored photos - alternator, master cylinder/booster, trunk compartment. Think Paul was the only other with such great photos for originality. Can't beat the combination of photos of originality combined with what we are looking at when judging concours restored cars. Best comment - "The must have book for anyone restoring a Camaro or wanting to know what is correct"

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General Discussion / Re: Crossram air Filters air flows
« on: January 19, 2023, 06:07:28 PM »
I have used the Cobra air filters when running and driving. Switched to OEM when shown

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General Discussion / Re: 1968 Radiator Tag
« on: January 13, 2023, 05:34:01 PM »
IH and OD are correct as stated

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1967 - Orphans / Re: 7N221349 - L78 Block
« on: December 01, 2022, 02:09:33 AM »
I used to have a dealer ordered L78 Pace Car with VIN N221183 that was sold in Akron. Wonder if this might be a twin. Ordered too late to receive blue stripes.

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General Discussion / Re: Pictures of 1st Generation Camaros at 2022 MCACN
« on: November 24, 2022, 05:16:25 PM »
There were at least 3 first gens that did not make it. One was a Legends car that was in an accident.  Weather kept my 69 Pace Car from going and being in the Maple Leaf Display. A COPO also didn't make it that was also going into that display.

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General Discussion / Re: MCACN Canadian cars
« on: November 21, 2022, 06:23:17 PM »
My Pace Car and another 69 Camaro did not make it for the Maple Leaf Canadian display

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Originality / Re: Original 1967-1969 Camaro lug wrench question
« on: October 25, 2022, 05:05:07 PM »
Yes - "O" stands for the Herbert Orr company. Have seen the letter "E" used.  There seem to be two styles of the lug part - a deep lug socket and a more shallower one for 1969.

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They were 441 wiper motors

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Originality / Re: 1968 Transition from 1967 style to 1969 style washer pump
« on: September 30, 2022, 03:48:48 PM »
Thanks so much. That is what I was looking for. I have seen June cars with the 69 style. So maybe April, May, June the change occurred

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Originality / Re: 1968 Transition from 1967 style to 1969 style washer pump
« on: September 30, 2022, 02:40:02 PM »
I am referring to the plastic motor cover which is most prominent. But the entire housing is different. 67's used a long screw through the plastic while the 69 style used short screws to mount the washer pump. Looking at the back side, the 67 operated with a plastic or nylon mechanism while the 69 used a metal mechanism.

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