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301  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: ?Fake POP? on: January 01, 2012, 11:07:22 AM
Is it possible that this vehicle was ordered with custom paint or other options that were not on the lot so the dealer actually sold the vehicle on this date as the order was transmitted?
302  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Horn Relay Malfunction on: December 25, 2011, 04:45:53 PM
if the horn button doesn't ground out the relay doesn't close and power the horns.
I would check the horn relay ground to the shroud, then check the door jam switches. Are you having dome light issues too?

You can test the horns by grounding out the horn button lead, the relay should close with an audible clicking noise if the horns are not plugged in.
303  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: fuel filter location on: December 24, 2011, 08:49:23 PM
The versions on CD-Rom are very good for all three years, from Dave Graham Auto Literature, Inc.
The paper ones xeroxed a bazillion times or de-assembled and scanned - you really need to pick up at a show and thumb through them to Judge or download a few copies from different folks to work around bad scans and missing pages.
304  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: K 14 6 22 FW or FV? on: December 23, 2011, 08:43:35 AM
FW = 15X7 B-4 1/4 71-up most any GM - are yours 15x7?

From over at Team Chevelle see list below:

When looking at original GM wheels, they will be stamped around the edges of the valve stem. This is good information to have, because it gives you the size / backspace / production date of the wheel. Below is a list of the available GM information;

XA 14X5 B-3 1/2 67 Chevy II with drum brakes
DA 14X5 B-3 7/8 67 Chevy II RALLY with disc brakes
DG 14X6 67 Camaro & Chevelle with dics brakes
XB 14X6 B-4 3/8 67 Chevelle SS, 68-69 Chevelle with F-70 Tires, 70 Chevelle
XN 14X6 B-3 3/4 68-69 Camaro & Nova with drum brakes. Different shaped outer
AE 14X6 B-4 3/8 70 Chevelle Station Wagon
XG 14X6 B-3 7/8 68-69 Camaro with dics brakes, 68-70 Chevy II/ Nova with disc brakes, 69-69 El Camino without disc brakes. Wider drop center than normal
DE 14X6 B-4 3/8 71-72 Nova & Chevelle, 6 hole wheels
YW 14X6 B-4 3/8 Exactly like XB, may have come on same cars
YJ 14X7 B-4 3/8 69 Camaro/ Chevy II L72- ZL1, 70 Nova
AV 14X7 70-72 Camaro, 71-72 Nova, 6 hole wheel
XT 14X7 L72- ZL1 Non Rally Wheel
YA 14X7 B-4 3/8 69 Chevelle SS Wheel
AO 14X7 B-4 3/8 70 Camaro &69 Chevelle SS Wheel
DB 15X5 67 Passenger Cars with disc brakes.
DF 15X6 B-4 1/16 67-68 Camaro Z28
DC (BIG) 15X6 B-3 1/2 67 Corvette, No other stampings on rim
DC 15X6 B-3 1/2 68-70 Passenger car, 67 Passenger car (early models)
FI 15X6 B-3 1/2 68-70 Passenger car, 67 Passenger car (later models) Rivited instead of welded together
YS 15X6 B-3 1/2 68-70 El Camino
FW 15X7 B-4 1/4 71-up most any GM
AG 15X7 B-3 3/4 68 Corvette (will take 15x8 Beauty rings)
YH 15X7 B-4 1/4 L72- ZL1 Z28 Rally 69 narrow drop center
AD 15X7 B-4 1/4 L72- ZL1 Z28 Rally 68 wide drop center
AV 15X7 70, 71, 73 CAMARO Z28 5 spoke wheel
AZ 15X8 B-4 69-82 Corvette

Here are a few extra notes:
* All the rally wheels made in 1967 have big marking letters, no date code, a little bit different shaped center and slightly bigger holes in the center.
* The 15x7 beauty ring will go on all the 15x6 wheels.
* All the hubcaps interchange with each other.
305  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: 69 Taillight sockets on: December 19, 2011, 12:25:06 AM
You can also add a bit of solder to the bulbs two contacts if they seem less qualified or the job.
306  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: No cowl Tag - can it be reproduced? on: December 18, 2011, 10:17:03 AM
Somewhere on the Shoreline of Connecticut there is a green 68 convertible RS/SS that lost its cowl tag in a firewall repair accident.
At the show where I saw it the owner had a history board of the restoration the car had been through.

His shinny replacement cowl tag was catching the sunlight so it was a hot topic even then in the early 90's. The owner had tons of photos of the original tag and could have had a GM style reproduction made but he knew that would always be suspect of his numbers matching girl, so he had one made of brass like a ships dedication plate so there would be no question it was not original.

The replacement tag stated that in this place once was mounted the original Fisher Body trim tag, This plaque was made to commemorate  the original that was damaged in a repair and stated the date on which the original had died. It then listed all the information from the photos. He also had the POP in his fathers name to back up everything. Always liked that as the perfect way to replace and honor a lost tag. 

Would that solution also work for you?  In your case only list what you can prove, such as the year, and the model style, maybe the plant if you can prove that and leave the body sequence out, document the exterior and interior colors and maybe the build month if you can prove that by other means, but if not just state the facts, this is a replacement tag as the original was lost or stolen. Make it proud metal and call it done.

Just MHO
307  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: interior question on: December 15, 2011, 10:35:56 PM
I forgot to mention there are clips that weld to the floor where the seat back bolts on. You may be able to get them in repro.

Good luck many have searched for these clips but unless your installing a full floor pan you will need a metal fabrication shop to produce two for you.
308  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Recommendations for a carb restorer on: December 06, 2011, 08:05:53 AM
309  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Dealer Promotional Plastic Models? on: December 05, 2011, 11:59:49 PM

LOL yup that's the exact same Impala. And here is the Chevelle...
310  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Dealer Promotional Plastic Models? on: December 05, 2011, 07:52:54 AM
I remember those - My uncle was a lifetime parts manager for a few Chevrolet dealers in the Hartford area. As a kid I remember he had a 69 Chevelle, and maybe a 65 Impala sitting on the shelf in his office at Grody Chevrolet.  Post a few pics and I'm sure someone collecting these will chime in with a value.
311  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 14 inch ralley wheels on: December 05, 2011, 07:40:33 AM

1=Romulus, MI wheel plant
8=calendar year 1968
9=The ninth day of
The next two letters are the application code which will tell you vehicles the rims are from.

312  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: ? 69 Pace Car on EBay? on: December 03, 2011, 10:20:04 PM
So there's two parts - did all SS's have 12 bolts - no.
Did all SS's (or Z11's) have posi's - no. Posi was only required for 4.10 or deeper gears.

Okay so I guess I do really need to get underneath and try to read the stamping on the axle to know for sure if I have a posi or not. Thanks Kurt for the information.
313  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Finding my Old 69 Z/28 on: December 03, 2011, 12:41:25 AM
A few other things you can do, look at your states DMV records process. If you can remember the plate, or your state logs your vehicles against your license number and you are still licensed in that state you might get lucky. Also look for old check registers, you might have placed the vin in the memo when registering it or paying taxes.
314  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: ? 69 Pace Car on EBay? on: December 03, 2011, 12:35:45 AM
Okay so now I'm more confused. I was asking if there were 12 bolt rears on 69 z-11's that are not posi units? Or were all 12 rears positraction ?
315  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: ? 69 Pace Car on EBay? on: November 28, 2011, 04:31:24 PM
I thought all 69 SS including Z11's had 12 bolt posi?
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