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16  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Fender Flaring On Trans-Am Camaros on: September 24, 2014, 03:21:05 PM
Ha ha ha, so true Jon! Neat photo, and very dramatic.
17  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: PRE-1969 SCCA SEDAN CATEGORY RECOGNITION FORMS for the Pontiac Firebird on: September 23, 2014, 05:24:06 PM
Thanks Jon, I think I've only ever seen one clear engine bay shot of either of the two Firebirds that raced in 1968, and that was the superb Ron Lathrop image you posted here. Like you say, that image clearly shows the Craig Fisher Firebird is fitted with the GM cross-ram. I don't think I've ever seen an image of the Titus engine bay, but assume its the same, even though that car now appears to be fitted with an Edelbrock item.
18  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Fender Flaring On Trans-Am Camaros on: September 22, 2014, 04:29:30 PM
I got to see the 'baseball bat' method in action last weekend when one of our New Zealand Historic Muscle Car guys was having trouble with his front tires rubbing against the fender after having made some castor changes to his '65 Mustang fastback. A tubular jack handle was used to roll the lip out to give extra clearance. It was certainly effective and produced the clearance needed, although the front fenders will need repainting. But it was a quick-fix done at the track to keep racing, and was pretty cool. Not to mention, pretty old-school.
19  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: JL8 / J56 4-wheel disc racing brakes on: September 22, 2014, 04:14:07 PM
Wow, very cool!
20  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: PRE-1969 SCCA SEDAN CATEGORY RECOGNITION FORMS for the Pontiac Firebird on: September 22, 2014, 04:12:52 PM
Thanks Jon, yeah that would really be cool, and hopefully the rest of the Firebird homologation papers will eventually come to light to be shared here.

Interesting to note its the Edelbrock cross-ram manifold pictured on the Firebird paperwork, and not the GM one.
21  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: New Zealand/Australian Camaros And Firebirds on: September 22, 2014, 04:09:58 PM
Thanks Jon. I believe John Schinella was one of the key GM designers involved in penning the first gen Camaro, and he also spent time working under John DeLorean at Pontiac. These family traits are then passed to the Aussie cars when these designers are assigned to do a spell at Holden. Kinda neat how it all ties in.
22  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: New Zealand/Australian Camaros And Firebirds on: September 18, 2014, 04:32:32 PM
Nice work Steve I am really impressed with the build quality the cars and one can only imagine what a nightmare it must be acquiring parts from the other side world to keep them running.

AL

Actually Al, believe it or not, its easier to race an American car in Australia or New Zealand than an Australian car! Everything is reproduced, and parts are cheap and plentiful.

The Australian cars, on the other hand, were really only produced in relatively small numbers by comparison, and survival rates are quite low. There is a slowly growing reproduction market, but repro parts are very expensive by comparison. And some parts are not being reproduced at all. Mechanically, the Aussie stuff is easy, as it is mostly American anyway, its the sheetmetal, trim and interior parts that are the challenge.

For example, in New Zealand a second-hand rear bumper in average condition with small dents and surface rust for an HQ Monaro costs about the same as a brand new rear bumper for a 67/68 Camaro, landed in NZ. Rear HQ bumpers are now being reproduced, but cost approx three times the equivalent new rear Camaro bumper.
23  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: New Zealand/Australian Camaros And Firebirds on: September 18, 2014, 04:24:57 PM
Thanks for posting those, Steve. The Monaro is interesting. The roofline and side windows reminds me a little bit of one of the '69 Camaro styling proposals that GM did before they settled on the final design, but it does have a little touch of Pontiac GTO-ness to it as well.

Thats an interesting image Jon, and yes, the family resemblance can clearly be seen. Holden was/is the Australian branch of General-Motors, and as such, it was common to have several American GM designers based in Australia at any one time, and likewise Europe, which is one of the reasons there are clear design links between GM cars the world over. Same was true of Ford.

In the case of the HQ Monaro, the design team was led by two American designers, Joe Schemansky and John Schinella. Furthermore, GM in the US would also send young designers abroad to gain experience.

The biggest challenge designers had in creating Australian coupes, was that, being a small domestic market, the same platform and the majority of the sheetmetal had to be shared with the equivalent four door sedan. So the HQ Monaro is a 2-door coupe version of the HQ 4-door sedan. Everything from the firewall forward, and the bottom tip of the rear windscreen back, are exactly the same. Only the centre sections are different.
24  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: PRE-1969 SCCA SEDAN CATEGORY RECOGNITION FORMS for the Pontiac Firebird on: September 18, 2014, 04:13:25 PM
Thanks to Jon for directing me to this very insightful thread. These forms make for interesting reading. It never ceases to amaze me the quality information on this forum.

I know I'm going to sound like an idiot for asking this, and I apologise in advance for doing so, but other than the image of a small block Chevy cylinder head on page 3 of the forms, where on these forms does it say its legal to fit a Chevy motor into a Pontiac? Eg, if I'm a scrutineer at a 1968 T/A event, where is the proof that the Chevy motor in Craig Fisher's Firebird is allowed to be there?
25  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Firebird and the Trans-Am series on: September 18, 2014, 04:04:54 PM
Steve, there were some Firebird homologation forms posted previously on this forum at http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=8075.0

Thanks Jon, brilliant!
26  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Firebird and the Trans-Am series on: September 18, 2014, 04:04:25 PM
Thanks Robert, yes of course, that was silly of me, not sure how I managed to overlook that.
27  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Hickory GT race - 6/9/69 on: September 10, 2014, 05:22:03 PM
What a superb image! Looks like one of the Bud Moore Cougars in behind that (Lloyd Ruby?) #25 Camaro, though I assume it was being run by another team. The Camaro in the foreground couldn't have been more than a few months old when this image was taken. Amazing how quickly brand new cars were bought and stripped out in the pursuit of racing, even on these little bullring ovals where the likelyhood of destruction was fairly high.
28  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Firebird and the Trans-Am series on: September 10, 2014, 05:17:44 PM
Thanks Jon. Wow, interesting stuff! The Fisher Firebird featured in a French speaking magazine?

Obviously there was a lot more magazine space given to the new '69 Firebirds.

I am wondering if anyone has a copy of the FIA homologation forms for the Firebirds in 1968, and their being granted to fit Chevy motors?
29  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: New Zealand/Australian Camaros And Firebirds on: September 09, 2014, 11:32:44 PM
Here is a pic of the Bob Jane HQ Monaro from 1972, in its second race. It was driven by John Harvey, while the bugs were ironed out, while Jane himself continued to drive the Camaro. Jane can be seen in the background with Allan Moffat's Kar-Kraft Mustang just in behind.

30  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: New Zealand/Australian Camaros And Firebirds on: September 09, 2014, 11:19:30 PM
The Wall family own a significant collection of historic Australian racing cars from the 1960s through 1980s, including the Pete Geoghegan 1967 Mustang GTA which Geoghegan used to win the Australian Touring Car Championship in 1967, 1968, and 1969.

They also own the Bob Jane HQ Monaro. The Holden Monaro is a sporty Australian built car. The first generation Monaros first appeared in 1968. The second generation Monaros first appeared in 1971, which is what the HQ is. They're much like a Camaro, with a separate body and sub-frame, and the top performing motor was a 350ci small block Chevy. They're about the same size, though styling is a little more taken from the GTO. And rear suspension is coil spring.

Bob Jane owned a large Holden dealership with his brother at the time the HQ model was released. He employed John Shepperd to build this car as the replacement for his ZL/1 '69 Camaro.

The Bob Jane Monaro featured a small block Chevy, topped with mechanical fuel-injection, some of which was made by Lucas, and some made from scratch by Shepperd. It also ran a dry-sump, magnesium Minilite wheels etc. It was a big dollar car for the time, and very fast.

Jane raced it until 1978, then it went through numerous owners, until Des Wall purchased it and restored it in the late 2000s. This was the first time it has raced since its restoration.

Note in the engine shot the distributor has been moved to the front of the motor. Shepperd had moved the motor back within the engine bay slightly, and down within the sub-frame for better weight distribution. And there was no room for the distributor in its standard location.  



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