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16  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: PRE-1969 SCCA SEDAN CATEGORY RECOGNITION FORMS for the Pontiac Firebird on: September 18, 2014, 04:13:25 PM
Thanks to Jon for directing me to this very insightful thread. These forms make for interesting reading. It never ceases to amaze me the quality information on this forum.

I know I'm going to sound like an idiot for asking this, and I apologise in advance for doing so, but other than the image of a small block Chevy cylinder head on page 3 of the forms, where on these forms does it say its legal to fit a Chevy motor into a Pontiac? Eg, if I'm a scrutineer at a 1968 T/A event, where is the proof that the Chevy motor in Craig Fisher's Firebird is allowed to be there?
17  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Firebird and the Trans-Am series on: September 18, 2014, 04:04:54 PM
Steve, there were some Firebird homologation forms posted previously on this forum at http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=8075.0

Thanks Jon, brilliant!
18  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Firebird and the Trans-Am series on: September 18, 2014, 04:04:25 PM
Thanks Robert, yes of course, that was silly of me, not sure how I managed to overlook that.
19  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Hickory GT race - 6/9/69 on: September 10, 2014, 05:22:03 PM
What a superb image! Looks like one of the Bud Moore Cougars in behind that (Lloyd Ruby?) #25 Camaro, though I assume it was being run by another team. The Camaro in the foreground couldn't have been more than a few months old when this image was taken. Amazing how quickly brand new cars were bought and stripped out in the pursuit of racing, even on these little bullring ovals where the likelyhood of destruction was fairly high.
20  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Firebird and the Trans-Am series on: September 10, 2014, 05:17:44 PM
Thanks Jon. Wow, interesting stuff! The Fisher Firebird featured in a French speaking magazine?

Obviously there was a lot more magazine space given to the new '69 Firebirds.

I am wondering if anyone has a copy of the FIA homologation forms for the Firebirds in 1968, and their being granted to fit Chevy motors?
21  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: New Zealand/Australian Camaros And Firebirds on: September 09, 2014, 11:32:44 PM
Here is a pic of the Bob Jane HQ Monaro from 1972, in its second race. It was driven by John Harvey, while the bugs were ironed out, while Jane himself continued to drive the Camaro. Jane can be seen in the background with Allan Moffat's Kar-Kraft Mustang just in behind.

22  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: New Zealand/Australian Camaros And Firebirds on: September 09, 2014, 11:19:30 PM
The Wall family own a significant collection of historic Australian racing cars from the 1960s through 1980s, including the Pete Geoghegan 1967 Mustang GTA which Geoghegan used to win the Australian Touring Car Championship in 1967, 1968, and 1969.

They also own the Bob Jane HQ Monaro. The Holden Monaro is a sporty Australian built car. The first generation Monaros first appeared in 1968. The second generation Monaros first appeared in 1971, which is what the HQ is. They're much like a Camaro, with a separate body and sub-frame, and the top performing motor was a 350ci small block Chevy. They're about the same size, though styling is a little more taken from the GTO. And rear suspension is coil spring.

Bob Jane owned a large Holden dealership with his brother at the time the HQ model was released. He employed John Shepperd to build this car as the replacement for his ZL/1 '69 Camaro.

The Bob Jane Monaro featured a small block Chevy, topped with mechanical fuel-injection, some of which was made by Lucas, and some made from scratch by Shepperd. It also ran a dry-sump, magnesium Minilite wheels etc. It was a big dollar car for the time, and very fast.

Jane raced it until 1978, then it went through numerous owners, until Des Wall purchased it and restored it in the late 2000s. This was the first time it has raced since its restoration.

Note in the engine shot the distributor has been moved to the front of the motor. Shepperd had moved the motor back within the engine bay slightly, and down within the sub-frame for better weight distribution. And there was no room for the distributor in its standard location.  



23  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: New Zealand/Australian Camaros And Firebirds on: September 09, 2014, 11:05:53 PM
The Australian Muscle Car Masters took place on the weekend at Sydney Motorsport Park. This is really the biggest muscle car event in Australasia, and includes both historic racing and car shows. I didn't attend, but Dale Mathers did, and he snapped a few pics while he was there. The event was a little smaller this year than in previous years, but there were still some neat historic old cars taking part in the racing, including the old Bryan Thomson 427 big block Camaro.

Peter Sportelli has owned the Camaro for many years, and he had Glenn Seton drive it at the MCM. Seton was a top Australian touring car driver from the mid 1980s through to the mid 2000s.





24  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Hickory GT race - 6/9/69 on: September 09, 2014, 09:00:04 PM
Thanks Mark, and I could be wrong, but I also thought the cars had to use steel wheels too, although the Trans-Am cars that entered from time to time appear to have retained their regular wheels.
25  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Fender Flaring On Trans-Am Camaros on: September 09, 2014, 08:57:52 PM
We used to clearance first gen rear wheel wells with a piece of 2.5" or 3" pipe and roll the lips like the baseball bat method.

Thanks, thats great to know. So this was relatively common practice? Did it stretch the metal to create a flare or did it have more the effect of flattening the inner lip to give more tire clearance?
26  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Firebird and the Trans-Am series on: September 09, 2014, 08:55:00 PM
Does anyone know of any period magazine articles written about either the Craig Fisher or Jerry Titus 1968 Firebirds?
27  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Firebird and the Trans-Am series on: September 09, 2014, 08:54:03 PM
Thanks Jon, wow the Firebird with the '69 Camaro front sheet metal would certainly look different! Interesting how many race cars ended up in Mexico.

I assume there are probably a few more events not included here, but you are right, doesn't look like Jon Ward did a lot of actual driving himself: http://www.racingsportscars.com/driver/results/Jon-Ward-USA.html
28  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Hickory GT race - 6/9/69 on: September 04, 2014, 06:52:45 PM
Not Hickory, but Daytona, at the Citrus 250 Nascar Grand Touring race in 1969. As Jon says, although there were some cross overs of competitors in the two categories, usually it was the higher profile paved track events the TA guys ran such as this. In amongst the GT cars are some Trans-Am regulars, including Parnelli Jones in a Bud Moore Mustang, John Martin and Don White in the Ron Kaplan Javelins, Don Yenko in the ex-Smokey Yunick Camaro, plus the Camaro of Rusty Jowett. Lloyd Ruby in another Camaro and Jim Paschal in the Javelin were GT regulars. I think Paschal may have picked up an AMC deal to run the series?

Jon, would this be one of the first races Jowett ran in this car?



29  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Fender Flaring On Trans-Am Camaros on: September 04, 2014, 03:52:52 PM
Yes, I agree! In fact, from that angle, the Jon Ward car actually looks a little bizarre. He must have owned a hell of a big hammer, because those fenders are really a long way from standard.
30  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Firebird and the Trans-Am series on: September 04, 2014, 03:51:10 PM
Thanks Jon. By chance, would you know of its career beyond 1969? It always fascinates me how many of these cars survive.

And while on the subject, I've often read that Jon Ward was considered to be quite a talented driver and car builder. Did he race much after teaming up with Titus at Daytona?
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