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466  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Treating inside of rocker rails & the snow is gone! on: April 11, 2014, 07:01:53 PM
I would say it is up to the guy doing the work. I don't think it is justified to start cutting out metal where you just have a few pin holes that appeared over the course of 40 years. I guess I am not for making a in depth repair to a very minuscule issue. I take each spot on a case by case basis.

I think the correct way CAN be to cut out the rotten metal and replace, but for a very small spot you may be doing more damage than good. IMO
467  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Niagara Falls Ontario 69 RS/SS vert current owner on: April 11, 2014, 06:13:21 PM
SO out of thousands of Camaros, this could be the first I have heard of re-uniting the original motor with the Car after so many years apart.
WTG Rick you are definitely a Camaro fan at heart.

The current owner owes you a nice cold beer!
468  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Treating inside of rocker rails & the snow is gone! on: April 11, 2014, 06:10:27 PM
You could definitely blow it out with air and  wait a day or so , if you felt water would be trapped in there.
469  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: And There It Goes... on: April 11, 2014, 01:59:51 PM
The mudder tires is classic man....
Hey I will be out in Indiana in July, and possibly near fort Wayne for the big Auburn swap meet around Labor day. Maybe I can check in on your baby, give your body shop a better color than that drab orange .... Cheesy
470  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original seat tag on: April 11, 2014, 08:46:37 AM
shoot I was hoping you had found the build sheet, i was getting ready to pull mine out.... Cheesy
471  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Camaro Z28 heavy duty parts list on: April 11, 2014, 08:42:22 AM
neat list. was this from a parts counter parts book, or a flier? Where did you find it?
472  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Treating inside of rocker rails & the snow is gone! on: April 10, 2014, 11:19:25 PM
hey Chris , I think you could just lend your car to me and send it back home to California .... Grin

I had a similar issue with a recent purchase and the rockers were so full of rocks, dirt, nests from different creatures....

I started by removing all the plugs I could get to. Next (if present)remove the rocker moulding. Then remove the lower bolt the attaches the fender on the very bottom of the car.
OK now whip out a hose or if you have a pressure washer and start in the front hole forcing it out the rear one, when you see the water running clear, switch to the rear and spray it in that hole towards the front. Keep repeating this procedure until it runs clear both ways.

You now can pull the fender a inch or so out at the bottom and use a spray nozzle all upside down, and hit every crevice.
Again keep moving it around until you don't see muddy water or debris coming out.

open up the door get the hose in there and spray past the door hinges as best you can.

What I found is while you don't want water and moisture in these areas, it is worse when the weep holes and provisions for the water to drain are clogged with dirt and scale and nests, and 40 years of crap.

Now once you are confident you got everything out you can bolt your fender back up and put your rocker moulding back on. Then re-install the good rubber plugs or put in some new ones.

Now if you really want to make it bullet proof you can go to Ziebart and have them spray there rubberized material in through the drains and what not, BUT if you are no longer driving it in the snow, dirt, and mud you will probably be fine without it.

I would take some spray paint, or undercoat in a can, and spray the bare metal that was in the pic. (If it was me I would get the mig welder out and fill those rust pin holes in first, followed by a small grinder or dremel in the tight spots to grind and smooth it down. )

This is what has worked for me. I am sure there is more than one way to do it though.. Wink
473  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Well My Camaro online Compadres, Time for a fight of my Life! on: April 10, 2014, 06:36:18 PM
WTG Danny

Your a trooper man, with 7 days of isolation, you will have plenty of time to post on here....and then soon you can resume your search for A Camaro!

In the mean while just tune into KNBR 680 and root on the S.F. Giants with me ! (tonights game is at 7:15)

474  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: This is a good looking car! on: April 10, 2014, 11:36:28 AM
Looks like a repop trim tag, ??


thats what I was thinking, but why not go with a X33 if he was going to do that.
475  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: A Craigslist 69 Z?? on: April 10, 2014, 11:34:33 AM
stripes on deck lid are incorrect, but if it is a legit Z could be a deal.
476  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Picture of 69 z top of engine wanted on: April 10, 2014, 09:10:10 AM
Yes i read that, but 2 guys have posted (reply 15 & 17) saying they have seen them on 6A cars. So when John says around july or august of 69, I see someone say june and that is around july. We will have to see if more guys post about having it on there 06A cars and what the vin is.
477  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Picture of 69 z top of engine wanted on: April 09, 2014, 11:31:15 PM
so we know from 6A on they were installed. any may cars with them?
478  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1967 - Y-1 (Butternut with White top) - Anyone have any pictures? on: April 08, 2014, 03:06:15 PM
Well I like many of the colors, and love a couple. But just as some guys don't like Garnet Red, there are some colors that it would be tough to purchase for me. But I am glad that everybody's different and the is a guy/gal out there for every color.

I was not around when these cars came out, nor the shoe box cars, or almost all the of vehicles on my bucket list. I guess I was just born with good taste.. Grin
479  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Another 1969 Z/28 "Barn Find" on: April 08, 2014, 10:42:36 AM
I have seen guys get a new report because in the initial report it was not reported to have the original motor. The new owner possibly has pulled the motor and the new report says original matching numbers motor. I am not privy to know the exact details of how each case came to be, but have seen this happen more than once. Original paint color or stripe color on a particular report may say "wrong stripe color" , but not fully explained, until another report is done a few years later, which more details come forward possibly, but now the report may say color on car is the way it left the factory. I am unsure how much new information is involved with a "new" report.

I agree with you as far as that statement standing out. It sounds good, BUT is there some secret Chevrolet records that Jerry has? Or is he saying for instance he may look at a car and say it looks like an original Z, so we know according to chevrolet records there were 20,302 produced, and we do not show any previous report in or data base that conflicts with this inspection, so :

" According to our data base and historical Chevrolet records, this car is an original Z/28."

Again Jerry has seen many up close around the country, and at the Camaro nationals, I a sure he is a wealth of knowledge. I am just saying instead of waiting for new info to come out on a car possibly, it may help a buyer or seller to get a second professional opinion on a car.

 Although I have heard suggestions that there should be many guys around the country to perform such a service, I do not agree with that. It may make sense logistically to have a few, but I think to reputable and to keep the hobby honest it would be best for a very small group of people to be the ones who actually certify. I truly believe operating initially independent of Jerry, so any findings are not skewed would be best. After initial inspection a collaboration (if possible) with Jerry would be optimal.
What I could see happening, is a buyer/seller getting a report from Jerry , and having questions that Jerry may or may not be able to satisfy with answers, and someone(s) contacting a second guy or service for another professional opinion, where maybe he says Jerry couldn't say for sure if the partial vin number by the oil filter were correct. Since we (buyer/seller) are talking about a swing of 50% of the cars value (or purchase price) based on the original motor being there can you please inspect the car to verify if it is an original motor or not.
With the rampant fraud, and how much guys are paying for these cars these days, I just think of it like a guy worked really hard for the money to buy this car, possibly tens of thousands of dollars, we need to get this as right as humanly possible at the time of inspection, and if there are any questions lets try to verify, and get all the facts before the report is generated.
Or this guy did a lot of work putting this car together lets do our due diligence to make sure we describe our findings as accurate possible and if there is a discrepancy, we need to make sure we describe what or why there is one, or what kind of factual evidence we did find, that led to our findings.

I understand I may be a lone voice in the wilderness saying this on this site.
480  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Another HO Z28.. on: April 07, 2014, 11:25:51 PM
well not being able to make out the VIN, and a story about some of them leaving without it are 2 different things to me. it COULD be legit, but no pics of the tags, made it more suspect to me. I don't have the Rose Orange colored glasses on, sorry
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