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466  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Z28 passenger exhaust manifold pic on: December 05, 2013, 12:53:37 AM
NOS one popped up on ebay last night #161165028406
looks like the correct one, although the part number is different from the one Jimmy V. posted
467  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Rick & His Yenko at Americarna LIVE Car Show on: December 02, 2013, 07:16:37 PM
Good looking car Rick. Must be tough washing your car when its 35 or colder out.
468  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: A Friend Is Looking for a June 69 DZ 302 on: November 29, 2013, 08:35:14 AM
He says it has neither, so lets see what the king says....
469  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: A Friend Is Looking for a June 69 DZ 302 on: November 29, 2013, 07:35:34 AM
how is that possible ?
470  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Happy Thanksgiving on: November 28, 2013, 12:57:59 PM
I'm jealous I haven't been around my car since october of 12. I should see my car this summer when I visit Indiana and my in laws. I look forward to taking it out for a ride and snapping a few pics of it with some cool back rounds. for now it sleeps....
471  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: What kind of 4 speed transmission do you have in your 1969 Camaro? (NOT Z/28) on: November 28, 2013, 12:42:47 PM
thats ok thor, as long as you have some way of knowing it was an original M-21 car.
472  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Production month brackets on: November 27, 2013, 09:47:15 PM
Well I would say these are generalities. IMO any 69 that was built prior to February or March I would describe as early, just for the fact of still using the shorter spoiler. I would say April through July or beginning of August would be midyear based on the the gas tank dating changing in mid August, (and if there would have been a start to the 70 it would have started then) So late month cars would be the middle of August to the end of early November.
473  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Happy Thanksgiving on: November 27, 2013, 07:37:15 PM
We all have a lot to be thankful for. I have been working on a thanksgiving report with my son, and have learned a few things regarding the settlers and William Bradford and the first thanksgiving. William Bradford may have been the first person to use capitalism in what we now call the United States of America, and our country may not have come to be, or had a first thanksgiving without his inspiration.

If not for capitalism we might have all been driving 4 door commuters, instead of all the great classics that were born from the competition among all the american car manufactures, including one of our favorites - Camaro

(Anyone who hasn't heard of William Bradford (such as myself) would benefit from a good read about the roots of this great country of ours.)

God Bless everyone on thanksgiving!
474  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / What kind of 4 speed transmission do you have in your 1969 Camaro? (NOT Z/28) on: November 27, 2013, 06:43:01 PM
Ok 1969 Camaro owners this poll is for you. I just put up the 69 Z poll, this poll is for all the other 1969 Camaro factory 4 speed cars. Again just thought it would be interesting to see what factory 4 speeds we have in our cars. Please only vote if the 4 speed in your car is the factory 4 speed it came with, or what transmission it came with based on docs, pop, or vin stamp on the trans that verifies. I also hope there is some 6 cylinder participation here. I am unaware if all 6 cylinders that had were ordered as a 4 speed were Saginaw only cars or if you could get a muncie specified for a 6 cylinder car. ( I am assuming the 6 cylinder with a 4 speed was an option.) I tried to have a provision for any possibilities but we will see if someone posts info about another combo.
475  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: What kind of transmission do you have in your 69 Z? on: November 27, 2013, 06:31:42 PM
Sorry I had to change an option on the poll because it was redundant on options.
 
TO: The 2 guys who both have (2) Z/28 please vote again you should be able to check 2 options (one for each car now)

476  Site Comments / Discussion / Test Drive / What kind of 4 speed transmission do you have in your 1969 Camaro? (NOT Z/28) on: November 27, 2013, 05:33:12 PM
Ok 1969 Camaro owners this poll is for you. I just put up the 69 Z poll, this poll is for all the other 1969 Camaro factory 4 speed cars. Again just thought it would be interesting to see what factory 4 speeds we have in our cars. Please only vote if the 4 speed in your car is the factory 4 speed it came with, or what transmission it came with based on docs, pop, or vin stamp on the trans that verifies. I also hope there is some 6 cylinder participation here. I am unaware if all 6 cylinders that had were ordered as a 4 speed were Saginaw only cars or if you could get a muncie specified for a 6 cylinder car. ( I am assuming the 6 cylinder with a 4 speed was an option.) I tried to have a provision for any possibilities but we will see if someone posts info about another combo.
477  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / What kind of transmission do you have in your 69 Z? on: November 27, 2013, 04:26:04 PM
Ok a poll for JUST 69 Z/28 guys. In a recent thread we were speculating what the percentage is for each transmission installed from the factory and it was suggested the CRG could have some numbers from its members cars so then it would give us a good enough sample size to have a good idea of what percentage of each transmission was installed in the 69 Z/28. Again this is just for the 1969 Z/28. I am from the understanding that all Z/28's came with a muncie, but I put the option for a sagnaw or other just in case somebody has a documented car with something other than a muncie.

I also put in the option in this poll for members to vote more than once if they happen to have more than one 1969 Z/28, but make sure you don't accidentally vote more than once (if you own only 1) or it will throw off the poll. (if you do make a mistake, you can change your vote)

*I will also do a poll for 1969 NON Z/28 cars (SS, COPO, Plain jane, 6 cylinder, etc) because I would like to also see how the transmissions were dispersed among all the other factory 4 speed cars. Once completed this should give us an idea of how often each transmission was installed.
478  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: What is the breakdown of 4 speed transmision types in 1969 Z/28's? on: November 27, 2013, 04:16:40 PM
maybe a poll would help..... (see the new poll)
479  Site Comments / Discussion / Test Drive / What Kind of transmission do you have in your 69 Z on: November 27, 2013, 01:21:17 PM
Ok a poll for JUST 69 Z/28 guys. In a recent thread we were speculating what the percentage is for each transmission installed from the factory and it was suggested the CRG could have some numbers from its members cars so then it would give us a good enough sample size to have a good idea of what percentage of each transmission was installed in the 69 Z/28. Again this is just for the 1969 Z/28. I am from the understanding that all Z/28's came with a muncie, but I put the option for a sagnaw or other just in case somebody has a documented car with something other than a muncie.

I also put in the option in this poll for members to vote more than once if they happen to have more than one 1969 Z/28, but make sure you don't accidentally vote more than once (if you own only 1) or it will throw off the poll. (if you do make a mistake, you can change your vote)

*I will also do a poll for 1969 NON Z/28 cars (SS, COPO, Plain jane, 6 cylinder, etc) because I would like to also see how the transmissions were dispersed among all the other factory 4 speed cars. Once completed this should give us an idea of how often each transmission was installed. Smiley
480  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: What is the breakdown of 4 speed transmision types in 1969 Z/28's? on: November 27, 2013, 03:24:49 AM
I didn't think you could get a saginaw in a 69 Z.
I could guess..  Smiley     

65% M20,  35% M21, and 5% M22   .... (purely a guess based on the ones I've seen and knew about, including many back in '69). 

I suspect that if a Z28 was 'dealership/factory specified', it was M20.   If it was special ordered, then MOST buyers went with the M21, and a few with the M22 (who knew about it, planned some HD racing and wanted to spend the extra $).   The 'close ratio' 4-speed was the term you 'heard' from those ordering a new Z28 back then; it was sorta a buzz word, like 'high lift' racing cam!  Smiley   I doubt all of them really knew the difference in how their car was going to drive.  By 1969, there were a lot of people ordering new Z28's who weren't not 'racing inspired'. 
I am not a mathematician  but 65% + 35% + 5% ? wouldn't that be 105% . Somethings gotta give there so how about 65, 30, and 5.
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