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31  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaro Performers magazine discontinued. GONE I TELL YOU....GONE GONE GONE!!! on: August 16, 2014, 07:28:05 PM
Wow, at least car craft is still around.
32  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: August 16, 2014, 07:20:56 PM
what a bummer. Well at least the flywheel isn't exactly holding you up from driving it right now. Maybe it will give you a boost to start getting everything cataloged and cleaned to get the car operational. As in work to get everything in order so all you need is the flywheel. I would try to somehow see the glass half full. I would also think to myself it was meant to be, and I would think I am thankful that I found a great car after looking hard. just my 2 cents for ya
33  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: August 16, 2014, 06:56:36 PM
Another great quality piece. "Is there anything that you want me to give you from that box of parts I picked up?" seller just left it on the porch for me..... Cheesy
34  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaro Performers magazine discontinued. GONE I TELL YOU....GONE GONE GONE!!! on: August 15, 2014, 11:32:39 PM
So, our next president that gets my vote will have to swear to the following...

"People of America, if I am elected president, I promise to restore the economy, end terrorism, Crush russia and put putin in his place, level north korea and iran, drill for oil anywhere it is until we have so much of the stuff that the oil companies pay us to take it off their hands, frack the fracking frackible fracks wherever the frack it is, re-open and build new coal plants everywhere so electricity is cheaper than dirt, pass a law that makes CAFE standards applicable to coffee quality only and nothing to do with MPG of cars, do away with every single law restricting our 2nd amendment and force anit-gun people to buy a gun, shut down the IRS because of their POS attiutde, shut down the EPA ASAP, close the DOE PDQ, and go after the DEA until they are DOA, restore our military and let them do what they do best and force all politicians' children to join, re-open the agency of Un-American activities and chase down every low down commie/socialist/preogressvie despot and flog them publicly, but ONLY AFTER I, as president of the United States of America, restores Camaro Performers." 



That is funny but on point. I would play devils advocate, and say the continued success of the Mustang and Camaro and (challenger)may be to a small degree attributed to the spa/cafe standards in upping the fuel economy and the longevity of a clean running car. I would say most of the Mustangs and Camaros and Challengers are not SS or GT or Hemi powered cars, most of them probably are the 6 cylinder good gas milage cars and in some ways the big 3 backed into continuing success because of the regulations. I am a very strong supporter of capitalism and it is possible they would have figured out the gas economy thing for themselves is the bread and butter, but I think there is a small amount of credit due to those agencies for this. You could make the argument that(  beyond the government bailouts of the auto manufacturers) the cafe standards have forced the big 3 to produce gas economy cars, and some sense have kept them relevant in the car market. I can only imagine what the market would look like as gasoline prices continue to be a burden to the average joe what kind of "economy cars" the big three could whip out when oil prices/gas prices surge. As Lutz the former guru at GM/chrylser has said they can't  change on a dime when consumers all of sudden want to trade in their suvs for prius's.

In general I think your right just cut all the government agencies, except for the military and veterans affairs, & SEAL THE BORDER FOR GODS SAKE!, No visas for 5 years while they sort out who is in the united states legally. If they can't figure it out in 5 years, no visas or legal immigration for another 5.
Put up a fence/wall like the did for east germany, that worked for how many years?  get the russians to do something useful... "Mr Gorbechev please build us a wall!"
35  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Camaro Performers magazine discontinued. GONE I TELL YOU....GONE GONE GONE!!! on: August 15, 2014, 01:26:38 PM
Thats to bad about the economy, and Camaro performers going under. I know Romney would have been more accountable, but it still would have been tough to get the economy humming again. I am interested to see who becomes the front runner to go against Hilary. Think of all the publications that have gone under though, newsweek, and the news papers in general are struggling. Maybe the next candidate can run on a platform of bringing back (the economy)& all the great car publications!
36  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: August 14, 2014, 01:19:07 AM
Jack I think that might be the same car i found a pic of. You just seemed to " one up " me by finding a video of it. Good find
37  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: August 14, 2014, 12:01:37 AM
So did you buy Gary a beer for that calculation?   Cheesy
Gary doesn't provide a letter, but his services are affordable... Cheesy
38  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: August 13, 2014, 11:30:05 PM
I could save you the trip, and take them off your hands..... Roll Eyes  Grin  Cheesy
39  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: The Vince Piggins Camaro on: August 13, 2014, 11:31:26 AM
Pat87, any chance of her emailing/sending you some current pics (of the car)?
40  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: August 12, 2014, 04:58:14 PM
Heres one for ya, sold for $49,500, but I don't know how long ago http://www.thechevconnection.com/69z28dskblue.htm
(obviously a little different as this one has the ZL-2 hood, and rear spoiler, and appears to have the X33 trim, But at least it gives you a close visual example)
41  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1968 - Orphans / Re: Z-28 POP 124378N397911 LeMans Blue on: August 12, 2014, 03:21:05 PM
I hope I find the car for sale so I can get the POP from you.... Cheesy
42  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1968 - Orphans / Re: 8N314243 - Protect-O-Plate on: August 12, 2014, 03:18:53 PM
Thats a bit much I think.
43  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: August 12, 2014, 09:46:35 AM
Your right about that. I have seen a lemans blue with a white vinyl top Z, but not a dusk blue yet*. It would definitely stand out with the white vinyl, like that convertible.
44  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: What's this parts name? Dumb question ... on: August 12, 2014, 12:38:56 AM
Good find!
45  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find on: August 12, 2014, 12:37:55 AM
Darrell, I finally got a chance to read your post. Great find, with a decent amount of history, and the bonus of the Protecto plate. I am glad you found the right car for yourself, and did not settle on any of the previous ones. You have the makings of a great car on your hands, and you will have the knowledge that it is done right piecing it back together.
Gary W has the right idea preserve as much of it as you can, taking notes and pics regarding factory marks and parts used as you go. When you look back this will be an invaluable tool that you will always go back and reference. All the close up pics of the stamps are a nice little reference when you need to know a date on your car or know what your car came with.
What is your plan for the car ? (Are you going to put it back stock with the white vinyl and no spoiler?)
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