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1291  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: real tag? on: September 06, 2013, 10:24:16 AM
12A build week and an X33 trim code (plus a bunch of other tag issues) equal a repro tag.
so what was the first known week for X codes? (jerrys book says the first week of december of 68)
1292  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / real tag? on: September 06, 2013, 03:22:26 AM
Saw this car on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-DZ-302-1969-rs-z-28-show-quality-loaded-free-shipping-warranty-/121171362214?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1c366041a6&item=121171362214&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

The tag looked a little funny to me but I wanted those of you who can spot a fake from a real firewall tag to weigh in please
1293  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 DZ BLOCK OR NOT... on: September 04, 2013, 08:37:23 PM
gotta be true to yourself. If you think your going to beat on it and don't want to damage the 302 , I would say smart move.
1294  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / original paint 69 Z on ebay... "survivor" on: September 02, 2013, 11:32:01 PM
Hey I know some of us are into original unrestored cars , I saw this one on ebay tonight. Thought some of you guys would wanna check it out...
item number 300958941447
known history since 71, original paint and drive train and protecto plate!  ANd you gotta love that original flat hood right???
I dig these original Z/28 finds

hopefully the auction goes the full way so we can see what it goes for.
1295  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 DZ BLOCK OR NOT... on: September 02, 2013, 10:40:06 PM
From a buyers perspective, without any paperwork to show it as a factory replacement I am not sure that it would garner more money for the seller though. The only reason I state this is his original question is - what would help with the resale value of said car. Would a CE block installed in the same car without documentation, I would guess probably not, but most of this discussion is hypothetical.
 It would seem "cortez Z Gary" (69Z28) would prefer a date correct 302, AND since he would have fit into your category of a once potential buyer of a original 69 Z less the motor the question may be posed to him: Gary, How much more would you have paid for a closely dated nom block had it already been installed in your car?
1296  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1111499 Distributor Question?? on: September 02, 2013, 08:13:45 PM
I don't see why it would get thrown out even if it was a restamp. It still looks to have all the correct internal parts, I think the major difference is the price it will fetch being original vs. re-stamp. They should operate the same.
1297  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: pawn stars z28 on: September 02, 2013, 03:55:26 PM
yes roger is good for a lot of one liners. He is a guys guy. Wayne seems nice, but doesn't want to get his hands dirty now a days. You can't stage the auction results, much like "whats my car worth", its interesting to see what the sell thinks the car will bring, vs what somebodies actual winning bid is.
1298  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 DZ BLOCK OR NOT... on: September 02, 2013, 03:24:06 PM
I would say if you got a block with your car and have it in and its running and you are happy with it, good. In the meanwhile you could try to locate a 302 with a date that would be close to what the original block in your car would have had. The other option would be a warranty replacement block, but IMO I don't think it makes much of a difference value wise between the 2. Once you locate a block with a date close to what your original would have been, then I would recommend getting as many date and correct parts as possible or in your budget. ex: distributor, alternator, intake, exhaust manifolds...., this way if you were going to sell it in the future, you could say while the motor is not original most everything else is as close to factory correct as possible, and you could list the parts and dates of what you have compiled to make the car as correct as you could. I would say IMO that would be the next best thing to a car with the numbers matching motor.
IMO the 302 4 speed only is what makes the Z/28 special or significant. You could put a 350 or what ever other block in it, but then its just like any other camaro but with Z emblems.
Why would someone want to buy a so called "original" Z/28 if it just had a 350 in it? you could by any v8 camaro and put the Z emblems on, and thats ok many people do!
1299  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 DZ BLOCK OR NOT... on: September 02, 2013, 02:38:49 PM
I look at a lot of 69 Z cars for sale, and it seems to me the 69 Z/28 that do not have their original motors, the owner will try to find 1) a original 69 DZ block, 2) if possible one that would be closest to the date of the original 302 the car would have had. This seems to be the best bet for value to potential buyers.
1300  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1111499 Distributor Question?? on: September 02, 2013, 02:23:22 PM
only thing i notice from the pictures is the bevel on the top where the cap sits on yours shows more reveal than his original. (very little bevel on original). Not saying this means anything just an obeservation
1301  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1111499 Distributor Question?? on: September 01, 2013, 05:04:35 PM
it is hard to duplicate patina. On the other hand a re-stamp these days looks a lot like a refurbished original
1302  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1111499 Distributor Question?? on: August 31, 2013, 08:38:16 PM
Its not a matter of definition or how crisp they look to me. If you look closely it becomes more obvious that it has been re-done. Can you trade it back to the guy for something else?
1303  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1111499 Distributor Question?? on: August 31, 2013, 04:22:57 PM
IMO it looks like a re-stamp. there are few things that didn't look right to me.
1304  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: pawn stars z28 on: August 30, 2013, 09:03:16 PM
I hear you on those cable shows, BUT I kind of like CCC chasing classic cars. I am sure it is edited for tv, but he has some good days and some bad. I am not the pebble beach type, but the variety of cars and condition. Is very interesting, and most of the time you see what he paid for the car initially. I think the one underlying trend I see is the desirability of nice unrestored cars. I actually saw one of my friends on a recent episode when they showed the 1955 XKSS Jaguars in Monterey, my friend Gary had the unrestored one, that Wayne was excited about.
1305  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 with Rally Sport... RESTAMP on: August 30, 2013, 08:05:08 PM
I assume it is Kurt who knows, since he seems to catalog just about every 69 Z that has shown up for sale or on ebay. It is hard to get one by him....
He had seen pictures of my engine pad to tell me the stamp was legit without me posting any pics (he had already seen them and had them in his own personal data base it seemed). ONLY issue I had was when I asked him if he could provide more info or where he got the pictures , because I thought maybe he had some info on my car that I didn't. That is when he clammed up....he never responded.
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