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Originality / Re: hood/headliner insulation question-1969 Z28
« on: November 03, 2022, 04:30:57 AM »
That is cool you have a contact that had the car back then. Was he able to provide who he bought the car from? or did he have any of the paperwork. Keep tracking it down as much you can you never what will turn up. 🙂

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Originality / Re: hood/headliner insulation question-1969 Z28
« on: November 01, 2022, 01:27:26 AM »
Great pics Dave of the original ZL-2 hoods.

JST it is more likely your hood is an over the counter GM unit. I have looked over many original unrestored cars, and I have observed the assembly line hoods to have the date. As mentioned some of them had paint in that area so it is hard to see it. The hood was very popular and MANY guys went to the parts counter and ordered the hood to add to their 1st gen Camaro, whether is was a 67,68, or 69, and it didn't matter if it was a Z, SS, or base car. It is somewhat rare to see a 1st gen let alone a 69Z without the ZL-2 hood now a days. You car though, you can keep the X33 trim and the ZL-2 hood or make the switch back to X77 and locate a flat hood to spray up for your car, and swap them at will, then hang the other in your shop. Congrats on the 69Z. 🙂

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General Discussion / Re: 1969 Z/28 10 10 car on BAT
« on: October 27, 2022, 01:53:07 AM »
I do see what looks like another 2 and a 3? When I look closer at the partial VIN. Good find Bill

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General Discussion / 1969 Z/28 10 10 car on BAT
« on: October 26, 2022, 06:58:49 PM »
I just saw this 69Z pop up on BAT.
VIN: 124379N622010
The trim tag appears ok to me at first glance, but I was hoping it was in the CRG system. I was really intrigued with the stamps on this one. The motor has obviously been decked so could be a re-stamped pad, but the partial VIN in the rough casting looks a bit different.  it appears the partial VIN on the trans the 6 is upside down? Also the rear end stamp looks like BB? or is it a bad BS stamp?

thoughts?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-chevrolet-z-28/

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« on: October 07, 2022, 08:02:32 PM »
The "C" stamp seems to be as early as August 5th and not used consistently until the later part of August. I have rear ends as late as August 22 with no "C" Stamp present.

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General Discussion / Re: GAA Classic Auction Car
« on: September 21, 2022, 04:28:58 AM »
I am not sure about "tag looks ok". not much there to see imo.

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General Discussion / Re: GAA Classic Auction Car
« on: September 21, 2022, 02:54:28 AM »
here it is again :https://www.gaaclassiccars.com/vehicles/35582/1969-chevrolet-camaro-z28

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Originality / Re: R and F firewall stamp
« on: September 15, 2022, 12:01:08 AM »
No worries. I am not bashng their effort, only the explanation when something is pointed out, the authors many times seem to think they have the final say, and should not be questioned. Again a disclaimer to let readers or enthusiasts know that there were deviations and things are not as black and white as some of the books seem to make it out. The effort is genuine and it takes A LOT of time and energy to put together so much accurate info. I think the Camaro word is better off with the books out there, even if there is a small amount of error involved. I guess from those in the know a small bit of error is to be expected, just like when they built the cars... 😃

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Originality / Re: R and F firewall stamp
« on: September 14, 2022, 09:49:41 PM »
I have The Hooper book from 1991, Jerry's book, The new Judges Manual (2022), Colvin's Chevy by the numbers. Each book has its merits and its flaws. Chevrolet by the numbers while extremely accurate has a handful of loopholes and they're based on not enough info, or data points to confirm certain parts. The definitive 1969 Camaro guide, while good at the the time of publishing has some oversights and generalities that do not apply throughout the production year ( which some facts only became known after publishing). I have also gone through the new 1969 Judges legends manual and again good detail on some changes in production, but no part numbers on some changes, and some multiple version or interchanged parts and designs use through production isn't even mentioned for the Z or SS cars. When 100's of thousands of cars are produced and they have quotas to meet on getting cars out the door, they were not holding up many cars because there was a deviation from the norm. The X11 69Z car is rare occurrence , but many others smaller documented issues occurred during the production run. The main issue is these cars are a not "cookie cutter" type car with the many changes that took place, but when many readers see these books they are trying to restore their car thinking well this is the only way it could be done with this one part, because the book doesn't mention other parts or other cars that have different part numbers. I have seen a number of guys remove original parts from their car looking at Jerry's book thinking they were incorrect, to only find out later other cars built around there's to have those same parts they removed.

So to Pacecar, the Legends Manuals offer more info and a guide as the other books, but it really takes a lot of investigative work to pin down the right info on when a car was built and other similar time frame examples. the books are helpful, but still have a ways to go.
The R F stamps in Hoopers book was something that should not have been included. as Cook mentions no other examples have been found. As mentioned Vendors can sell anything, so don't trust them to get it right.

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General Discussion / Re: Crossram and headers
« on: September 14, 2022, 07:02:51 AM »
There are tame Cross ram builds as well. Wayne helped Gene with a build last year and the goal was performance but with street drivability. In the end it was not a radical built motor but one that had a great amount of giddy up, but idled well and the power band came on way smoother than the a track based brute with gobs of power that only comes in at a high rpm. The are many different way to skin a cat. 😉
So to your point Crossboss, there is some sacrifice with having street/strip machine with it, but there are plenty of guys who have mastered how to do it. The 480HP number is impressive because it was a build meant for the street and to have street manners but still be able to utilize that kind of power consistently less the trifles under lower rpms.

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General Discussion / Re: Crossram and headers
« on: September 13, 2022, 09:20:39 PM »
Crossboss maybe for Ford, not the case for Chevrolet.
 I have actually interacted with number of guys running cross rams on the street, and 99% of them run a version of the 4295, wether original or re-issue, and get the most out of the set up that way. I do know one guy that ran a set of 600 carbs, and while he improved the performance over the stock 4 and tried many cams, and tweaks, it is still the original set up of the intake and carbs that seem to pull the best and the parts perform the best together. Martins recent engine build which went the route of find the best of the best to perform, also used 4295's, and they got 480hp on the dyno.

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General Discussion / Re: Crossram and headers
« on: September 13, 2022, 05:04:50 PM »
David you are spot on. It takes the right specific parts (T.I., headers, cam, etc) it also takes the right build. Wayne is extremely helpful , and very generous with his time throughout the process. He loves helping guys out to make sure they get it right. The cross ram is Z/28 history and really takes the car into the rare air territory. With the right build there is a lot of fun to be had, and it is second to none for how cool it looks.

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General Discussion / Re: Crossram and headers
« on: September 13, 2022, 04:51:40 AM »
Good point on the 4210. The stepping improvement of the linkage on the 4295 helped this out a great deal.

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Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Crossram manifold
« on: September 05, 2022, 05:44:24 AM »
The carbs can be even harder to locate than the Manifold. Tom Cudeyro has a knack for locating them though.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z "matching numbers"
« on: September 02, 2022, 04:57:21 AM »
Rocco376. is there a partial vin on that block?

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