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General Discussion / Re: Flint Engine Production
« on: Today at 03:59:09 PM »
Known to you if you collect the data yourself.
I don't think the CRG intends to publish any data points on motors or any other part, as to not help the fraudsters.
I have gotten better at spotting fake trim tags, because I have started collecting images of real ones from certain time frames. So if I find a questionable Camaro, I usually post it on the CRG with my suspicions about the tag. And usually someone confirms my suspicions. So CRG likely will not post "here are all the good dates..."
But they will rule out or will give their opinion on anything questionable.

Not exactly what you may be seeking, but it is still an aid.

I don't think all the info the CRG has, needs to be so guarded, but still plenty of fraudsters out there that will restamp, or try to make an extra dollar off a dummy.

Maybe I have learned more by them not coming out and giving more info.

Originality / Re: 69Z/28 With Endura Bumper
« on: Today at 12:56:12 AM »
I agree with Tim. Some colors the VE3 looks better with than others. Also Some RS cars look better with the VE3 than a non RS with it. I would say it is kind of the lump sum of options that make the car. For a hard core 1st gen guy, it is only documented original items that add value. Regardless of what the insurance company says, it all depends on what someone is willing to pay for the car, not what it would take to restore a car.
I have an early L.A. 69 RS Z. It does have factory spoilers, deluxe seat belts, tinted glass, AM/FM radio and the VE3 bumper. I think the VE3 bumper with the RS package really add to the look of the car, and would help it sell, since there are not a bunch of eye catching options otherwise ( no console/gauges, to early for the ZL2 hood etc)
IMO what helps these car sell faster than others is having docs, and a nice history of the car. Especially where a Z is concerned, since there are so many copies out there. Canadian docs are nice, POP is good, factory invoice(s). The more docs the better.
 Someone may be able to fake one of those items, but I doubt would be able to fake all of them, and make them pass muster for an inspection.

General Discussion / Re: Flint Engine Production
« on: March 23, 2018, 07:12:25 PM »
Well would it actually have been closer to 21,000 302ci, since you have to factor in all the CE blocks?

Originality / Re: Searching for the "story"
« on: March 23, 2018, 06:52:04 PM »
Good points John. I would say it may have a slight impact on value as well. I would think a factory posi would add to the value, especially since many SS cars came with an open diff.

General Discussion / Re: Unrestored Z/10 anyone?
« on: March 23, 2018, 05:51:52 PM »
Well factoring in the Z10 included at least a 350ci, the RS package, the ZL-2 hood, and the identitfying orange stripes, I would think a slight cut above what an SS would go for in similar condition. My guess for this car would be mid 20's

General Discussion / Re: Unrestored Z/10 anyone?
« on: March 23, 2018, 03:39:41 PM »
Hard to tell if any vinyl is still on the top, but you can tell the windshield pillars have been painted.

General Discussion / Unrestored Z/10 anyone?
« on: March 23, 2018, 04:12:02 AM »
Saw this ebay ad for a unrestored Z/10 with a black vinyl top. Thought it was pretty cool

Sad story of why he is selling it, but says he is the second owner.

At 22k so far, no reserve. Fun to watch these unrestored cars. :)

General Discussion / Re: Delco Booster
« on: March 22, 2018, 10:28:06 PM »
If memory serves he had a decent amount of time involved in research on that thread on booster valves.

I would say Bentley knows how much of stickler some of us are, and wants to make sure we are in the know, if something isn't quite correct.

He is just making sure we're on top of our game... ;D

Mild Modifications / Re: Exhaust Advice Needed
« on: March 22, 2018, 02:05:23 PM »
The things we are pointing out, most observers at a car show will not notice. Most will appreciate that it looks stock.

Likely only a CRG guy would be able to point out, what is incorrect. In the end you are the only one that has to be happy with the end product. :)

General Discussion / Re: Delco Booster
« on: March 21, 2018, 07:05:26 PM »
The only ones I have seen with it on the upper right and not upside down, have been reproduction units. Not to say there could be an original like yours, I just haven't seen one.

(Gary, Good thing you have that original check valve, I think Bentley was ready to give you a CRG fine! )

Bentley has always got a good eye out for us... :)

Originality / Re: Standard steering wheel for 1969 SS
« on: March 21, 2018, 06:08:00 PM »
I know spoilers were optional on SS cars, but at one point did spoilers come with the SS package, as they did with the Z/28? I noticed his car has spoilers now, but I wasn't sure if they were added, or just came with the SS at one point.

Originality / Re: Searching for the "story"
« on: March 21, 2018, 05:53:16 PM »
Great idea. I know Gary has also had some luck in tracking down the past owners of his car. He was rewarded with some good stories, and some vintage pics of his car from back in the 70's.

Please keep the pics and updates coming.
What dealer was your car sold through? I have been locating license frames of the dealers that sold my car(s), might be cool to locate some original dealer frames for your camaro, and install them. Just ads to the originality IMO.
Good Luck!

Mild Modifications / Re: Adding a non-gauge console?
« on: March 21, 2018, 04:10:56 PM »
Your column and steering wheel should be red as well along with the dividers on either side of the center pod above the steering wheel.

Original Cars and Details / Re: Family survivor 69 Camaro
« on: March 21, 2018, 03:56:48 PM »
Most of us here feel the same, that original Camaros should be kept original (if possible), and several of us have stated so in posts...  but it's his car, and he has his dream (which he may have lived with for a long time)... For the rest of us, we can only think that his doing so will make our own original cars even MORE rare...

It s funny you mention that. I was out yesterday, driving my white 69, and had a few people give me a head nod, or say "nice car". This got me to thinking. These people are not saying nice car because it is a Z/28, they are saying this because it is a old car, and maybe they recognize it as a Camaro. I don't often see first gen camaros driving around.(even in my mild climate). I think so many guys have fixed them up, they must be afraid to drive them often. And the other majority have them torn apart in their garage and they remain in project stage for a decade or more. I would say the smallest majority actually drive their cars on a daily basis.

To me there is a certain value in being able to daily drive these cars, and keep them on the road. This car looks to be a car that has been daily driven, and presents as such in the pics. I love seeing cars, that are drivers, whether plain jane, SS, Pace car, what ever.

Sure some of us live in areas with 4 seasons and cannot have them safely on the road as much, (I get that).

I just wish more classic car owners just maintained and drove them. The cars are going to outlive us, who are we preserving them for?

General Discussion / Re: black 69 RS/SS Caveat Emptor?
« on: March 21, 2018, 05:43:17 AM »
I have emailed the seller. FWIW -he says he has no clue if the car is numbers matching  or how correct the car is.

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