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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / 1969 Camaro VIN check on: January 29, 2014, 09:34:01 PM
Kurt S
Do you have anything regarding this VIN ?
124379L517385
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Kelsey Hayes rims for 1969 on: February 18, 2013, 09:49:40 AM
One pic shows the 13 date and the other, if you look close enough, the top of the font of the numerical 1 is present.

Cleaning these up properly, at times we can see the toolong that the letters and numbers were struck with.

The Y and J show that circle around the letters

3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Kelsey Hayes rims for 1969 on: February 17, 2013, 03:23:10 PM
OK, so I found another 14x7 YJ rim.
Stamping is 14X7 JJ   10 B
The rim is a K-1-9  10-13 dated rim.
Now we have A & B  present on the bands.
So, I am continue to look into these; dates or letters exist!

Here is the letter B stamping with the 10 for the month


4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Kelsey Hayes rims for 1969 on: February 10, 2013, 03:42:37 PM
sometimes as i continue to look at these, the 10-8 code : that 8 sometimes, to me, appears like a letter B

Thoughts?
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Kelsey Hayes rims for 1969 on: February 10, 2013, 01:48:23 PM
another from the 68/69 set...

On this rim shown, the center is K-1-8 and the band is K-1-9

All dated first week 1969 at the valve stem.

Ill have to check if all have the 14X7 JJ with the A stamp and no month/day codes
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Kelsey Hayes rims for 1969 on: February 10, 2013, 01:43:43 PM
I have a set that are last week 1968 and 1st week 1969 dated.

Some have K-1-8 and some have K-1-9; days apart.

7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Kelsey Hayes rims for 1969 on: February 10, 2013, 01:39:31 PM
more pics...

8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Kelsey Hayes rims for 1969 on: February 10, 2013, 01:32:13 PM
Another pic :



9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Kelsey Hayes rims for 1969 on: February 10, 2013, 01:30:41 PM
Well, I had some of my extra YJ rims chem stripped and this process really cleans up the visibilty of the the codes on the rim bands.
However, month and date codes are not consistent as it seems when they were at KH being date stamped.
Letters and numbers can be found, and can be random.
I think either is correct.
Checking date codes at the valve stems, codes in the center of the rim, to codes in the band will help somewhat in ID'ing these.
Here are a few pics from a set I am selling :

10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: 69 owners with "Pebble-grained" steering wheels (not shrouds) please check in on: February 04, 2013, 12:28:50 AM
Anything relative of the smooth vs pebble grain wheel in 69 across models, and/or build timelines?

Any supply issues at the plants for this wheel while being assembled?
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Kelsey Hayes rims for 1969 on: January 24, 2013, 01:56:09 AM
That's a close assembly timeline to your build date of your rims.
I would think that VN & Norwood were moving rather quickly by this time of the year.

My guess is is that both plants saw a drop off on manufacturing during the holidays.
They were still producing but at a slower pace.

Once everyone was back to work, I would assume that production times and dates came back together.
Alot like where your rims are so much closer to your build dates.
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Kelsey Hayes rims for 1969 on: January 20, 2013, 08:19:58 PM
Maybe this s a good time to begin a K-H rim submission.

Maybe we could start a thread per coding:
YH rim thread
YJ rim thread
XT rim thread

Maybe a month by month categorizing.

If you are able to get the wheel center and band codes, that would be great!
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Kelsey Hayes rims for 1969 on: January 20, 2013, 05:18:44 PM
Just to add to this discussion...

Found an image of a 1967 14 X 5 rally rim from a Nova that is stamped JJ on the band.
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Kelsey Hayes rims for 1969 on: January 20, 2013, 01:29:37 PM
K = Kelsey Hayes (manufacturer of the rim for GM-Chevrolet)
1 = plant at Romulus, Michigan (for GM-Chevrolet)
9 = 1969 (Year of Manufacture)

Now, as I am searching around for info, in prior years of 1969...
KH rims being manufactured for Chevrolet, in my image above,
the earlier rims only used a single J after the rim stamping of the size and width.
Example :  14 X 5 J
Does the single J denote anything towards how the rim fits the brake system?
Where as, in 1969 JJ stamping, does the JJ represent anything towards brake system fitment?

What is curious to me is if the early 1969 Z28 AD rims were stamped with JJ or J ?
I would assume the the YH rims were having the JJ satmping.

In my image above, you will notice the letter A below the 14 of the 14X7 JJ stampings.
I am going to guess that this denotes the month that it was made.
This image is from one of my YJ rims in a set from January 1969.
To add, there is also a letter in the wheel center that seems to denote the month of manufacture, K-1-9 A.
On this particular rim, the A is stamped just under the GM stamp on the wheel center.
I am going to assume that the outer band was manufatured in Jaunary, 1969 by looking at this.
I am going to assume that the wheel center was manufatured in Jaunary, 1969 as well.


I decided to go and look at some of my other rims.
K-1-8 trhru K-1-9 issue.
Some of the K-1-8 rims have the Letter code in the wheel center on another of one of the 5 landings of the rim where it it can be stamped.
One set, stamped for October, 1968 denotes a 10-X date.
These rims show a K-1-8 with a Letter J.
Counting out the months, J lands on the month of October.

Thoughts....
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Kelsey Hayes rims for 1969 on: January 20, 2013, 10:41:56 AM
Thanx for that link.

Has CRG done any research topucs on this?

LA vs Norwood?
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