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346  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring 6 Cylinder 69 Camaro. Should I keep it original or COPO Clone it? on: November 10, 2010, 11:22:16 PM
If you are trying to gain support from this site for anything other than Original  I don't think its going to happen. Aside from mild modifications this is why this site is here. Even though you have received several comments in favor of; "Keep it Original ", you are still leaning in towards cloning it. As for its more valuable as a Copo Clone Huh. If you are considering this change as an investment, take a look at what copo clones are selling for...around 50% (probably less) of the total investment.

Bottom line, its your car...do whatever you are comfortable with and whatever makes you happy.

IMO...for what its worth...


Thanks Marty I appreciate the opinion. I am starting to lean towards keeping it original if it is not too late. I was going to keep it all original but it had a few serious rust issues that needed to be addressed. if you check out the TC thread you will see where I am at.
347  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring 6 Cylinder 69 Camaro. Should I keep it original or COPO Clone it? on: November 10, 2010, 11:18:09 PM
Mostly white, with significant rust. Much has been disassembled. Many parts in bins. Two kids in college, and unemployed. Progress is totally stalled till better times. While I have a number of detail photos, some worse than others, I can not find any shots of the whole car, or major portions. This is the closest I could find.

Hey Tom mine was simular condition under the bondo. What part of the country are you in. What are the other details on your car, interior, motor etc. What are you plans for the car?
348  Model Specific Discussions / 6-cylinder Camaros / Re: Hi I am new here and I have a 6 cylinder 1969 Camaro on: November 10, 2010, 10:35:49 PM
Nice looking car. I'd drive it, daily. Smiley

Can you also post a pic of the POP?

Hi Kurt here is the POP

349  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring 6 Cylinder 69 Camaro. Should I keep it original or COPO Clone it? on: November 10, 2010, 10:21:15 PM
I guess there is no harm in freshening it up. Like I planned to do with the subframe and engine bay, firewall ect.

Car has already had one repaint so I might as well paint it again. I would like to add a spoiler front and rear as well as put a set of multi leafs in the rear. The car drives real nice and is a smooth as glass. Perhaps I should keep this as a nice driver and buy a cheap basket case that I can build from scratch. I am learning so much from this present build. Besides if I paint it I might not have enough money for any drive train upgrades. Always appreciate the advice Scott.
There's a difference between restored and original. The car is original right now except for paint. "Freshening' the underhood is restoring it - to me, that changes the car completely. I'd take the car as it sits. Restored, I'd probably pass on it.

I like the looks of the exterior. How many white/blue cars do you ever see? No less without spoilers. Find any 69 without spoilers (other than the Z on the homepage!) - everyone adds them!

What are you fixing with the multileafs?

Your car, but you don't find originals like this very often.


Hi Kurt I am at the point where I can stop and just clean it up. However as Scott has said, it has been painted before and I just changed one quarter panle and the other was changed before I got it. Instead of painting the firewall I could just clean it. I have fixed the rust areas, which had to be fixed. since has been painted before, painting it again can't hurt it. Why don't you check it out Kurt and let me know what you think. I have painted some of the underhood parts already.
350  Model Specific Discussions / 6-cylinder Camaros / Re: 250 Fender Emblems on: November 10, 2010, 03:29:38 AM
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351  Model Specific Discussions / 6-cylinder Camaros / Re: Hi I am new here and I have a 6 cylinder 1969 Camaro on: November 10, 2010, 03:29:10 AM
Sure Kurt I will scan it and post it. I like the fact that the name on the POP is the name that was on the transfer documents to me. Nice to be the second owner of the car. I have a build thread on Team Camaro if you want to check it out. Do you guys do build threads here? I am new and have not looked around that much yet. I also have the GM of Canada paperwork. Lots of various chalk marks as well. Just about to give it a repaint. It has had at least one previous repaint. Also had the stamps on the firewall. first time I have ever seen those in original form. Pretty original car other than the repaint. Only non origial parts are the 2 rear partial quarters. Had to be changed due to rust. Let me know if you need any other info before I get too deep into it. Love this site by the way.
352  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring 6 Cylinder 69 Camaro. Should I keep it original or COPO Clone it? on: November 09, 2010, 02:02:45 AM
A COPO clone may be worth more on resale, but the cost of the cloning may be more than the difference in value. It's really easy to give away an expensive project. I went through much the same thought process on my 307 glide. It will now stay close to original, and what I change will be reversable. I am even going to keep it white much to my suprise.
A COPO clone may be worth more on resale, but the cost of the cloning may be more than the difference in value. It's really easy to give away an expensive project. I went through much the same thought process on my 307 glide. It will now stay close to original, and what I change will be reversable. I am even going to keep it white much to my suprise.


Hey Tom your car is white? Can you post any pictures? I am really curious. I love learning about other cars. Would love to hear more about your car.
353  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring 6 Cylinder 69 Camaro. Should I keep it original or COPO Clone it? on: November 09, 2010, 01:59:20 AM
Reading about this car on Team Camaro leads one to believe this car will not stay original, color or drivetrain. Which is more appropriate for that site. There are plenty of non original cars in disrepair that are good candidates for modification, especially in today's market. Not many original, non butchered sixes left. But as stated, it's completely up to the owner.

I have to admit that since joining this site I am starting to think differently. I know I had an original plan, but I may reconsider. The car is all original except the paint. Do you think I should keep it the same color and keep the six. I am starting to think that might be a good idea. Even the spare tire is original. I guess there is no harm in freshening it up. Like I planned to do with the subframe and engine bay, firewall ect.

Car has already had one repaint so I might as well paint it again. I would like to add a spoiler front and rear as well as put a set of multi leafs in the rear. The car drives real nice and is a smooth as glass. Perhaps I should keep this as a nice driver and buy a cheap basket case that I can build from scratch. I am learning so much from this present build. Besides if I paint it I might not have enough money for any drive train upgrades. Always appreciate the advice Scott.
354  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring 6 Cylinder 69 Camaro. Should I keep it original or COPO Clone it? on: November 08, 2010, 03:35:21 AM
It might be rare, but it is not worth more than a COPO clone I think. I am slightly into a restoration and I am wondering if I should keep the original color as well as the motor. I am not touching the interior, but I am painting the subframe and engine compartment as well as the motor as its in very rough original shape. Going to paint the body and really wanting to switch from white. IS that a bad idea?
355  Model Specific Discussions / 6-cylinder Camaros / Re: 250 Fender Emblems on: November 08, 2010, 03:10:13 AM
I am looking for a set
356  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Restoring 6 Cylinder 69 Camaro. Should I keep it original or COPO Clone it? on: November 07, 2010, 08:26:50 PM
Thanks guys. I might just do that. Keep it original that is. I have got a lot of advice over at Team Camaro and I was planning on cloning it and painting it Silver and upgrading the motor. How much would a car like mine be worth. Either way right now I am going to fix a few rsut issue, already have actually and detail the engine bay and subframe. Will changing it from stock hurt the value or increase it. That is the question. It is numbers matching by the way.
357  Model Specific Discussions / 6-cylinder Camaros / Re: Hi I am new here and I have a 6 cylinder 1969 Camaro on: November 07, 2010, 08:23:16 PM
Yup it's on there N40. I will take pictures and post.
358  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: How to transport to the body shop ??? on: November 07, 2010, 12:31:53 AM
Hey Daven. The shop that now has my car came to my place twice to inspect the car. That is how I knew they were the right shop. They made an effort and gave me the impression that they cared. Plus I also had met them and talked to them several times before. I build up a relationship with them by asking lots of questions. I was fortunate on this restoration that my car was a perfect driver and drove it to the shop.

However on my previous car I was in your position. I had only the stripped shell and wanted to get some quotes as most shops don't like to quote without checking the car over, and won't give a final quote until the paint is striped. I was lucky that I knew a guy who had a business and I got him to drive me around to a few shop one afternoon with his trailer. Since the car was a striped shell it only took a few of us to lift it onto the trailer on my dolly.

I would say that you should probaly take the advice of taking some pictures or your camera or computer with you to show a few shops and get a vibe for which shop feels like the best place for your car. Take into account how interested they are in your business and if they seem to have experience restoring your model of car. If they have not done a lot of Camaros in the past, they might not be as sharp as a shop that does a lot of them. I chose a retoration shop as oppossed to a body shop that only does repairs.
359  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Restoring 6 Cylinder 69 Camaro. Should I keep it original or COPO Clone it? on: November 06, 2010, 11:36:52 PM
Hi there I just posted as a new memeber that I am just starting to restore my 69 Camaro. Just curious what the the guys on this site think. It is pretty original all numbers matching. It is currently white. Trying to decide if I should change the color and drop in a big block or restore it to stock.

All advice appreciated. Thanks

360  Model Specific Discussions / 6-cylinder Camaros / Re: Hi I am new here and I have a 6 cylinder 1969 Camaro on: November 06, 2010, 10:00:10 PM
Opps sorry posted the wrong Doc. I will repost.
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