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16  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Intake manifold bolts - 69z28 on: January 18, 2014, 10:23:04 PM
As far as I know the bolt head marking should be an "M".
17  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Intake manifold bolts - 69z28 on: January 18, 2014, 10:17:50 PM
As far as I know the intake bolts were un-shouldered except for the bolts on the engine lift brackets. They should be shouldered.
18  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: factory 302 emblem on 1969 Z-28 on: January 18, 2014, 10:13:11 PM
COPO's
19  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: speedo clips and location on: January 10, 2014, 11:22:43 PM
Thanks for confirming, Chick. The 69 AIM calls up 'cement' to be applied to clip and hole for the 2 locations on the firewall, but nothing for the lower clip down by the transmission - seems like that'd be the most likely place for water to get in and be retained, so I'm going to do what you did and seal it up!

X2 on sealing up. Great idea. You don't want water getting inside a freshly done car.
20  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: speedo clips and location on: January 10, 2014, 06:55:46 PM
That is great info. Thanks Chick and everyone else for chiming in.
21  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z28 Engine Bay Pic's on: January 10, 2014, 03:45:56 AM
Here are some results using High Pigment Permanent India Ink in a stamp pad. Hit the INKPAD  then hit the car quick.



Hey James where did you get the stamps. They look different than the ones I have. I like the ones you have better.
22  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: This is a nice original 69 Z28 on: January 09, 2014, 03:43:06 AM
Sometimes it is nicer to just keep your opinion to yourself. I think this was one of those times.

X2!
23  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z28 Engine Bay Pic's on: January 05, 2014, 05:55:53 AM
Has anyone thought about the possibility of Fisher Body use a stenciling "INK" not paint.
Stencil Ink does not have the same consistency as traditional paints.
just a idea.

We use "Stenciling" INK to label Electrical Bussing and mark Naval circuit breakers for various hulls in the DoD side of ships repair all the time.

It does not cover very well and stamps crisp and fades with time, ,,,

Jim

Believe several of us have been saying that for a few years. Wish we would find out from someone who worked there.  It has never looked like a paint to me due to be so transparent and thin in thickness. 

I updated my build thread as I finally completed the "P", "D", & "T" stampings and what I used to complete. Came out very close to originals IMO. Inks I tried did not come close to originals so that changed my direction back to a type of paint. 

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584&page=47




Great looking Stamps Chick
24  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Clones, tributes, recreations.. on: December 24, 2013, 02:52:05 AM
As far as clones/tributes/recreations go, we shouldn't discourage that at all. I'm no better for having a real Z than the guy who has a clone. In essence, the guy with the clone is just trying to enjoy the hobby he otherwise might now be able to. Where a line should be draw (and has been for the most part, in thanks to CRG and TC), is to point out the 'clone' cars intentionally passed as real.

I love all 3 of my first gens, but my 'clone' car is definitely the most fun. 

Clone car - A huge burnout up the street and I get a 10-beer salute from the neighbors. Definitely a fun car.  I have registered this car with the CRG as a 'clone'.



Numbers matching Z - I'm paranoid about even taking it to a local car show.


Wow 2 great cars. The clone gets my respect. A nice car is a nice car. Period IMO clone or not. Counter fitting exists in all aspects of our lives. That seems to be the issue. I agree that clones, tributes, or recreations are part of the hobby and take nothing away from it. As we see from the fine example above, that Yenko clone is nicer that most of the cars for sale on ebay. Sorry to say but I don't agree with this thread. It's not clones, tributes, or recreations that are ruining the hobby. Its is the opportunists that are using the hobby for profit and taking advantage of those who are not educated enough to know the difference. It's a capitalists dream. And that my friends is what motivates people to push that envelope.
25  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: upper hood spring and assembly finish on: December 23, 2013, 09:44:12 PM
IMHO hinges were a dark coloration and many are restored too light.  Also it might be misleading to say manganese phosphate was used or should be used for all nuts, bolts, fasteners, etc.... I looked at original parts and parts from suppliers like AMK (very similar in color) and decided the manganese was too dark for many small items.
Happy Holidays everyone!

Thanks Chick, but I didn't say all nuts and bolts etc. I was using those parts as examples of parts that would get that colour of finish. One should do the research and finish accordingly. Have a great holiday and Merry Christmas.
26  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: upper hood spring and assembly finish on: December 22, 2013, 09:11:10 PM
Correct upper hood latch spring should be semi gloss black. everything else phosphate. However, note that there are 2 types of phosphates used. Zink and Maganese. Zink is the lighter grey colour and is used on hood hinges, as well as upper and lower hood latches. Maganese phosphate is used on nuts bolts, cage nuts and other body fatteners.
27  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Fill & Drain Plugs 1969 Muncie M22 on: December 19, 2013, 03:54:58 PM
Another picture showing plugs from both sides.  From left to right.
LISLE MAGNETIC 2
LISLE magnetic
P magnetic
W fill plug (note - not magnetic)
No marks magnetic - current plug that is not correct, but is functional for the task.  I have about 100 of these new.


Quite the collection Bryon.

Impressive!
28  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: cleaning paint off PBT stamping on: December 18, 2013, 02:30:39 AM
Wow Lloyd. Your cars has come a long way. I have never seen those old pictures of your car before. Amazing progress and maintaining originality & correctness.
29  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Fill & Drain Plugs 1969 Muncie M22 on: December 18, 2013, 12:53:46 AM
Nice work on documenting the different plugs Lloyd. I was unaware until now that the M22 had a drain plug. Great detail here, keep up the good work.
30  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: cleaning paint off PBT stamping on: December 17, 2013, 02:50:12 AM
Wow that looks great James.
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