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61  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 68 Convertible Windshield Header Moldings on: September 08, 2014, 10:24:01 AM
I read within CRG a while back that in '68 there were new DOT safety laws passed that made it necessary for the satin moldings. I think the wiper arms were included in that too but I am not 100% sure. '67 was bright trim.
Maybe John Z. can verify that.


On Corvette convertibles, the header stainless moldings remained bright into the early 70's; however, MVSS Specular Gloss regulations changed the Corvette wiper arms and blades in late '66 from bright chrome/stainless to "Satellite", a dull chrome and stainless finish that wouldn't reflect light in the driver's eyes, and the painted inside lower garnish molding at the base of the windshield glass had flattener added to the paint to minimize its reflections. The side and upper moldings were outside the vision zone specified in the Specular Gloss regulation.
62  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 1969 camaro seat belts on: September 08, 2014, 09:55:41 AM
I only have two rear lap belts in my car . My car was a late 1969 build  (September) Is it possible that GM switched to two rear lap belts for the 1970 model and thats why I only have two rear lap belts ?

Your car was built with three - are you sure the center belt isn't stuffed down below the cushion?
63  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: ebay ad for a big block Z11 car.... on: September 08, 2014, 09:28:15 AM

... Is it me or do the bids on eBay look manipulated on this auction. Like he has his friends bidding the car up... eBay should crack down but they never will

Caveat Emptor my friends...

  I believe many of these eBay auctions have bogus bidders to jack the price up.
eBay will not crack down unless there a a blatant violation. In the end the senior management who manage eBay have to show a profit to their share holders in order to get their own stock options and bonuses otherwise major share owners like Carl Icon will begin to influence them (like with so many corporations people like him dealt with) so I'm sure they will tolerate certain practices as long as it isn't illegal, that you and I find not exactly kosher.


eBay gets 10,000 auctions per hour, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week; how many people do you suppose you'd have to hire to check out every new auction before they were posted?  Why does everything become an industrial conspiracy theory?  :-(

P.S. It's Icahn, not Icon.
64  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / X55 and M35? on: September 08, 2014, 09:17:03 AM
Did they use a m35 in a x55 car?

Yes, if that's what the customer ordered. X55 (SS350) came standard with a full-synchro 3-speed manual, and automatics were optional at extra cost.
65  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Shat R Proof Front windshield with no DOT? on: September 04, 2014, 10:45:06 AM
John, was the "dam" material READILY/EASILY available to after market installers at the time?
If so how common was it for outside glass installers to use the "dam"?

We received the extruded "dam" material on 200- or 300-foot spools (it took about 18 feet per windshield); our application gun applied hot-melt glue to the fabric-reinforced side of the dam as it was applied to the (cleaned and primed) glass. I have no idea when the dam material became available to the aftermarket.
66  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Shat R Proof Front windshield with no DOT? on: September 04, 2014, 10:31:35 AM
OR.. maybe John..  your car got built/finished late?   Do you know the date of production based on your VIN?  or from GM docs?   It *could be* that even with a 02D scheduled week, your car wasn't built until the early days of March...

The NCRS data shows it came off the line on February 27th, and the Canadian docs show it was shipped on February 28th.
67  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Correct hog rings for upholstery. on: September 03, 2014, 02:19:57 PM
I am re-covering my seats and I am at the point where I am going to be needing a set of Hog Ring pliers and the rings themselves. I have noticed the rings that were on the seats were round and all of the plier/rings kits I have found online use rings that look more like staples.

Are the round rings available from anywhere along with the pliers ?

Should I just not worry about it and the staple shaped rings will be ok?

The production hog-rings (which came in glued-together 12"-long stacks to load in the air-powered hog-ring guns) were shaped like staples, and the jaws of the hog-ring gun formed them into a round or diamond shape when they closed.
68  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 coupe window outer weatherstrip/fuzzies on: September 03, 2014, 02:12:28 PM
<< The blunt rolled end on the stainless is the tell tale giveaway of an OEM piece, none of the after markets produced has this detail correct. >>

Correct - here are blunt-rolled originals.  Smiley
69  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69-SS-396-350hp/ mstrcyl and booster date codes with in 1 month? on: September 03, 2014, 02:07:11 PM
2)  If you will download a software product called 'Light Image Digitizer' (free for personal use), it allows custom downsizing and uses algorithms that retain a great majority of the information.

Actually, it's "Light Image Resizer".  :-)
70  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Shat R Proof Front windshield with no DOT? on: September 03, 2014, 02:01:17 PM
however it is my understanding that it was not possible for an after market supplier to install glass by hand manually as it was done inside the factory with a machine. 

I don't know why this issue keeps coming up or how it got started, but it's incorrect. Windshields and backlites were installed manually in the plant (two guys with suction-cup grippers for each glass), just like the replacement guys used in the glass shops. Machines/robots weren't used successfully to install fixed glass in production until MANY years later.
71  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Shat R Proof Front windshield with no DOT? on: September 03, 2014, 01:54:03 PM
So would your back lite have been replaced at one point? (since it is dated march, and you say your car came off the line in February)

Nope. The guys at the glass plant jumped the gun to the March logo by a couple of days.
72  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: eng vin compaired to car vin on: September 03, 2014, 01:43:54 PM
Can you take close-up photos (use your camera's "macro" function - the little flower symbol - so they'll be in focus) of the VIN plate in the door opening and of the VIN derivative stamp on the block pad and post them here for us?
73  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: My New '68 Camaro Z/28 Butternut Yellow on: September 03, 2014, 01:24:51 PM
The distance from the balancer line to the dimple Center to Center = 1-1/32"... Call it one I guess. So if 3/4" = 10 degrees... Then 1" = 13.3 Degrees. What is THAT measurement in relation to timing?... Danny

That dimple is meaningless - has no relation to anything.
74  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Shat R Proof Front windshield with no DOT? on: September 02, 2014, 10:16:41 AM

What is the earliest appearance of DOT coded glass in a 69 model year Camaro?

My all-original untouched Norwood 02D '69 Z/28 has all its original glass, and all except the windshield are DOT-marked. All the side glass is "XV" (February 1969), the backlite is "NV" (March, 1969), and the windshield is "XV" (February, 1969). Car came off the line on February 27th and was shipped on February 28th.
75  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1967 RS on: September 02, 2014, 09:34:13 AM
OK,,no to Tach. and Gauges on the P.O.P., but think it would be on the Trim Tag.

Cowl tag only had information that was meaningful to Fisher Body, and nobody on the Chevrolet side paid any attention to the cowl tag; tach and gauges were installed by Chevrolet.
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