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3871  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: 396 clearence problem on: June 11, 2006, 10:21:59 AM
Someone else will comment on the engine mounts. The BB sits off-center to the right to get more clearance from the exhaust manifold to the steering gear, so the fan opening in the BB fan shroud is also offset to the right relative to the radiator; the SB shroud won't work with the BB engine location.

From the photos, it appears that you might have a problem with exhaust heat on the brake pipes and valve being located directly above your manifolds or headers; the production plumbing was all located OUTBOARD of the master cylinder to get it away from exhaust heat.
3872  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Big Block pulleys??? on: June 11, 2006, 10:06:10 AM
The 454 is externally-balanced, but the overall thickness of the damper to the pulley mounting face is the same as that of the 427; the 454 will accept the same accessory drive components as the 427 with no issues.
3873  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: engine wiring on: June 11, 2006, 10:00:42 AM
That clip is secured under the second-from-the-bottom bellhousing-to-block bolt.
3874  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: solenoid on: June 11, 2006, 09:54:48 AM
During normal operation, the coil gets 7-8 volts through the cloth-covered resistance wire that feeds it from the ignition switch, which improves point life. During cranking while starting, the wire from the "R" terminal on the solenoid to the (+) coil terminal feeds a full 12 volts from the solenoid to the coil, bypassing the resistance wire, providing more voltage to the coil for starting. When the engine starts and the solenoid disengages, the coil (+) is again fed by the resistance wire.
3875  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 2000 Z28 engine replacement on: June 10, 2006, 02:47:27 PM
I bet that original 30-30 sounds great.

Gary, there was no "30-30" cam after 1969.
3876  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 69 Z28 302 Replacement engine on: June 09, 2006, 03:03:02 PM
A "CE" short block for a Z/28 would have come from Flint, and the date code on the block you mention pegs it as a Tonawanda block; sounds like a "CE" block intended for another application that's had 302 innards installed in it somewhere along the line. The 492 heads have 2.02" valves, but they're service replacements - never had a production application. Should run just fine, but neither the block nor the heads are "correct".
3877  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Pace car! on: June 09, 2006, 02:46:49 PM
Welcome to the forum! SS cars came standard with a floor-shift 3-speed manual (or 4-speed if it was ordered) with no console, or a column shift if an automatic was ordered. You had to order the console (D55) on any car - it wasn't included with any other package; if you ordered the console with an automatic, you got the floor shift with it.
3878  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Standard Grill Colors on: June 09, 2006, 02:40:55 PM
What about the headlamp bezels.. Are they always Argent Silver too?

3879  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 wiper transmission and cowl plenum area color on: June 09, 2006, 02:33:47 PM
I can assure you that the wiper linkage was installed WAY after the body was painted (Fisher Body painted the body, and Chevrolet installed the wiper linkage, which was received painted black from the supplier). The Fisher Body paint specs indicated that the plenum area below the wiper linkage was supposed to be blacked-out, but sometimes it was done, sometimes it wasn't. Wiper linkage any other color than black indicates that the car has been repainted without masking off the linkage.
3880  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: What's the correct paint procedure for the inside lower valance? on: June 08, 2006, 09:58:34 AM
So John,

What explains the confusion and why some restored Camaros have the inside of the lower front valance painted body color?

What are your thoughts about the yellow '67 RS/SS mentioned in this thread?  Would there have been any way for the painter
to get "creative" and paint the inside of the front valance in question if they wanted to?  Based on your process description, I
can't see how that would be possible.  Still,there are questions.....................  


You're likely to see almost anything on a restored car, as most people spending big bucks for a paint job won't settle for original factory paint coverage and paint all surfaces. Very few variations are seen on original factory paint, as it took extra time and effort to paint surfaces other than those specified, and used more (expensive) paint to do so.
3881  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: What's the correct paint procedure for the inside lower valance? on: June 07, 2006, 11:55:29 AM
None of the exterior color-painted front sheet metal panels (hood, fenders, header, valance, fender extensions) had color on the inside; they were hung on a front end "buck" conveyor carrier in approximate car position with several inches between panels, and the valance panel outer surface faced upwards. Any color on the inside surfaces was overspray from spraying the edges. The inside surfaces were semi-gloss black flow-coat primer.


Did anyone ever take pictures of any of these processes?  I personally would love to see how this, and many other processes were done. 
In lieu of pictures, think you could make a sketch or two showing how this arrangement was laid-out for painting?


I don't have any photos of the Chevrolet sheet metal paint process, although I saw it in production many times (who knew it would be of interest 37 years later?); just visualize a complete car set of front sheet metal on a floor-mounted conveyor carrier, with the panels mounted in car position, with about a 5"-6" gap between the edges of the hood and fenders (to get color on the vertical surface of the fender reinforcement) and a 2"-3" gap between the other panels.
3882  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: CORRECT HEAD AND INTAKE BOLTS FOR A 69 Z/28 on: June 07, 2006, 11:48:20 AM
Thanks for the info John. So head bolts are head bolts---there are no "special" head bolts for the 302's?

Nope - there was nothing special about 302 head bolts - they used the same bolts as any other small-block.
3883  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Standard Grill Colors on: June 07, 2006, 11:47:16 AM
The outer portion of the standard grille is always painted matching body color.
3884  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: CORRECT HEAD AND INTAKE BOLTS FOR A 69 Z/28 on: June 06, 2006, 12:40:17 PM
Head bolts typically have a "circle" headmark. Aluminum intake bolts are plain hex head (no flange or integral washer), typically with "A", "TR", or "M" headmarks; lock washers were not used.
3885  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Door locks won't come up with the key? on: June 04, 2006, 02:28:54 PM
Any hardware or auto parts store should have "Lock-Ease"; it comes in a dark blue plastic bottle.
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