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3826  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Alternator (GEN) light on when key is off. on: May 23, 2006, 10:03:12 AM
A key thing to remember is that alternators are NOT designed to charge a dead battery - their job is to maintain the correct state of charge. If you're dealing with a dead battery, you're better off to bring it up with a charger first.
3827  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original inspection paint marks on underbody on: May 23, 2006, 09:51:55 AM
So the early paint markings essentially meant nothing? There was no "paint code" to indentify parts or their location on the car? If I understand you correctly, the paint marks meant the components had merely passed Rockwell hardness standards and were approved for the assembly line, and were randomly marked with varying colors of paint. Thanks!

Yup, that about covers it.
3828  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 67 speedo cable / 4 spd cars on: May 22, 2006, 01:46:22 PM
The adapter gearbox was used with 4.56 axles to avoid generating another transmission part number; everything else used the normal direct connection.
3829  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Harmonic Balancer size? ('68 396 325 or 350hp) on: May 22, 2006, 01:42:48 PM
Don't have part numbers for '68, but generally the hydraulic-lifter 325hp and 350hp engines used a 7" balancer, and the solid-lifter 375hp engine used an 8" balancer.
3830  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 windshield needed on: May 22, 2006, 01:36:41 PM
The Pilkington Vintage Glass folks can make you one (they bought L-O-F many years ago).
3831  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original inspection paint marks on underbody on: May 21, 2006, 10:35:12 AM
Components like spindles (knuckles) and steering linkage are critical safety items, and knuckle forgings were Rockwell hardness-tested after heat-treat and machining; OK parts were usually marked to verify visually that they had passed that test. They were inspected again after component plant assembly (spindle, steering arm, caliper, hub & bearings, rotor, splash shield, etc.); the car assembly plant just took the spindle/hub/rotor/caliper assembly out of a rack and attached it to the ball joints.
3832  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Mild Modifications / Re: HELP NO REAR BRAKES on: May 20, 2006, 01:52:57 PM
Did you replace the rear flex line from the body to the axle? When they get old, they deteriorate and swell up internally, limiting or blocking fluid flow.
3833  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Engine casting date vs build date on: May 20, 2006, 01:49:08 PM
Werner has owned MANY of the one-off C1 and C2 Styling Corvettes over the years, and is currently restoring another C1 Styling car he found last year in a garage in Birmingham.
3834  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Camaro big block oil line for gauges on: May 20, 2006, 01:40:45 PM
I agree that the 45* elbow fitting is original, but the steel double-male adapter fitting screwed into it is not; if you'lll look in the Assembly Manual, section U17, Sheet A3, View "D", you'll see the nut (item 14) and the sleeve (item 13) - those are the two parts shown in the front of the photo I posted.

I've never owned a BB Camaro, but I think the original oil line was nylon (as were all the small-blocks) due to the complex routing to the gauge in the console.
3835  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original inspection paint marks on underbody on: May 20, 2006, 01:23:47 PM
The practice of paint-marking fasteners in the car assembly plants didn't start until well into the 70's (except for randomly-selected audit cars); what you found are inspection markings on the components, applied at the component plants, before shipping the parts to the car assembly plants.
3836  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Original inspection paint marks on underbody on: May 19, 2006, 12:54:19 PM
The car assembly plants didn't paint-mark fasteners to indicate they had been torqued; occasionally a finished car selected for the daily quality audit had plant-installed fasteners marked as they were checked with the car on a hoist in the off-line quality audit area, but there was no paint-marking of fasteners on the line. Some fasteners that were installed by the supplying component plants (like backing plate bolts) may show paint marks, but only assembly plant-installed fasteners were torque-checked in the assembly plant quality audit.
3837  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Power steer pump cap on: May 19, 2006, 12:47:13 PM
That's why I was hoping someone with a P&A that covers those years would jump in...
So, Steve, are you verifying that there was no other cap "listed" from 5690846 to 7803820?
In other words, what p/n(s) covered 69 cap(s)?
If 5690846 changed from metal to plastic in 69 at any time, would that have been reflected in the p/n?

The P&A isn't always a reliable source for production parts usage; service parts were frequently released/listed that would "Service" the application functionally, with no concern for whether or not they "looked" the same, depending on inventory levels and usage rates.
3838  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: CRG Research Topic - 1969 - 2 pc vs. 1pc KickPanel on: May 19, 2006, 12:37:25 PM
My 02D '69 (VIN 606402) has the one-piece kickpads.
3839  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Woodgrain horn shroud on: May 18, 2006, 01:46:52 PM
The number molded into the back of the shroud is the casting number - it's the same on all of them - they just changed the color of the plastic when they molded the different colors (each of which had their own finished PART number, which doesn't appear anywhere on the part).
3840  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Power steer pump cap on: May 18, 2006, 01:42:31 PM
Exactly the same cap and wording as my 02D '69 - as in the photo above, it says "Use Approved Fluid", not "Use Proper Fluid".
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