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3766  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 2000 Z28 engine replacement on: June 10, 2006, 02:47:27 PM
I bet that original 30-30 sounds great.

Gary, there was no "30-30" cam after 1969.
3767  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 69 Z28 302 Replacement engine on: June 09, 2006, 03:03:02 PM
A "CE" short block for a Z/28 would have come from Flint, and the date code on the block you mention pegs it as a Tonawanda block; sounds like a "CE" block intended for another application that's had 302 innards installed in it somewhere along the line. The 492 heads have 2.02" valves, but they're service replacements - never had a production application. Should run just fine, but neither the block nor the heads are "correct".
3768  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 Pace car! on: June 09, 2006, 02:46:49 PM
Welcome to the forum! SS cars came standard with a floor-shift 3-speed manual (or 4-speed if it was ordered) with no console, or a column shift if an automatic was ordered. You had to order the console (D55) on any car - it wasn't included with any other package; if you ordered the console with an automatic, you got the floor shift with it.
3769  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Standard Grill Colors on: June 09, 2006, 02:40:55 PM
What about the headlamp bezels.. Are they always Argent Silver too?

Yes.
3770  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 69 wiper transmission and cowl plenum area color on: June 09, 2006, 02:33:47 PM
I can assure you that the wiper linkage was installed WAY after the body was painted (Fisher Body painted the body, and Chevrolet installed the wiper linkage, which was received painted black from the supplier). The Fisher Body paint specs indicated that the plenum area below the wiper linkage was supposed to be blacked-out, but sometimes it was done, sometimes it wasn't. Wiper linkage any other color than black indicates that the car has been repainted without masking off the linkage.
3771  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: What's the correct paint procedure for the inside lower valance? on: June 08, 2006, 09:58:34 AM
So John,

What explains the confusion and why some restored Camaros have the inside of the lower front valance painted body color?

What are your thoughts about the yellow '67 RS/SS mentioned in this thread?  Would there have been any way for the painter
to get "creative" and paint the inside of the front valance in question if they wanted to?  Based on your process description, I
can't see how that would be possible.  Still,there are questions.....................  

Steve

You're likely to see almost anything on a restored car, as most people spending big bucks for a paint job won't settle for original factory paint coverage and paint all surfaces. Very few variations are seen on original factory paint, as it took extra time and effort to paint surfaces other than those specified, and used more (expensive) paint to do so.
3772  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: What's the correct paint procedure for the inside lower valance? on: June 07, 2006, 11:55:29 AM
None of the exterior color-painted front sheet metal panels (hood, fenders, header, valance, fender extensions) had color on the inside; they were hung on a front end "buck" conveyor carrier in approximate car position with several inches between panels, and the valance panel outer surface faced upwards. Any color on the inside surfaces was overspray from spraying the edges. The inside surfaces were semi-gloss black flow-coat primer.

John,

Did anyone ever take pictures of any of these processes?  I personally would love to see how this, and many other processes were done. 
In lieu of pictures, think you could make a sketch or two showing how this arrangement was laid-out for painting?

Steve

I don't have any photos of the Chevrolet sheet metal paint process, although I saw it in production many times (who knew it would be of interest 37 years later?); just visualize a complete car set of front sheet metal on a floor-mounted conveyor carrier, with the panels mounted in car position, with about a 5"-6" gap between the edges of the hood and fenders (to get color on the vertical surface of the fender reinforcement) and a 2"-3" gap between the other panels.
3773  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: CORRECT HEAD AND INTAKE BOLTS FOR A 69 Z/28 on: June 07, 2006, 11:48:20 AM
Thanks for the info John. So head bolts are head bolts---there are no "special" head bolts for the 302's?

Nope - there was nothing special about 302 head bolts - they used the same bolts as any other small-block.
3774  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 Standard Grill Colors on: June 07, 2006, 11:47:16 AM
The outer portion of the standard grille is always painted matching body color.
3775  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: CORRECT HEAD AND INTAKE BOLTS FOR A 69 Z/28 on: June 06, 2006, 12:40:17 PM
Head bolts typically have a "circle" headmark. Aluminum intake bolts are plain hex head (no flange or integral washer), typically with "A", "TR", or "M" headmarks; lock washers were not used.
3776  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Door locks won't come up with the key? on: June 04, 2006, 02:28:54 PM
Any hardware or auto parts store should have "Lock-Ease"; it comes in a dark blue plastic bottle.
3777  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: What's the correct paint procedure for the inside lower valance? on: June 04, 2006, 02:26:33 PM
None of the exterior color-painted front sheet metal panels (hood, fenders, header, valance, fender extensions) had color on the inside; they were hung on a front end "buck" conveyor carrier in approximate car position with several inches between panels, and the valance panel outer surface faced upwards. Any color on the inside surfaces was overspray from spraying the edges. The inside surfaces were semi-gloss black flow-coat primer.
3778  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: POP question on: May 31, 2006, 11:54:10 AM
One more thing to add, V was use for the V8's at Flint in 67 and up, but the L6 engines were still stamped with F for 67, 68 and part of 69.

That's why the change was made; the L-6 engines were made at the "Flint Motor Plant" in downtown Flint, and the Flint V-8 Engine Plant's "F" prefix was changed to "V" in 1967 to eliminate confusion in warranty reporting.
3779  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 1969 z/28 connecting rods on: May 30, 2006, 11:14:54 AM
Thank you. Thanks exactly the information that I'm looking for. When I press out the pins I will measure the openings. Then
I will draw my conclusions as what to do for my restoration. How is the lubrication to the floating pins accomplished. Are they
under oil pressure or just simply splash lubrication.



Just splash lubrication - the only pressure lubrication in the crankcase is through the cam journals to the crank main and rod journals.
3780  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 1969 z/28 connecting rods on: May 29, 2006, 06:04:07 PM
Yes, as far as I know, the LT-1 rods had the "0" in the cap end of the forging. The small end I.D. of a pressed-pin rod is smaller than the I.D. of a floating-pin rod; the same piston pin diameter is used for all pistons (.9270"-.9273"), but that pin is a .0018"-.0016" interference fit in a pressed-pin rod, and is a .0001-.0008" clearance fit in the floating-pin rod. The pin hole is drilled larger in the floating-pin rod, that end of the rod is coated with copper babbitt bearing material, then it's finish-honed to the proper oversize to ensure .0001"-.0008" clearance to the pin to provide for lubrication.
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